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 CyberCenter / Internet "Cafe", Any1 here operates one?

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pillage2001
post Mar 26 2006, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(vion @ Mar 24 2006, 08:23 PM)
u can setup ur cyber cafe as small as 5 computer(if r on low budget,plus u know how to setup everyting. eg:maintenance,networking,troubleshooting etc)

then u concentrate more on ur business,after 1 or 2 month add either 1 or 2 computer at ur cc.

1st of all,buy a mid range technologies(eg. latest is A,second is B and older tech is C. then choose B technologies)

this my own technique tat i give to all my fren who wan to open a CC wif low budget.now all of them has at least 30-40 computer at their CC.

example :

1 hour = RM 2
working hour = 10am -10pm = 12 hour
no. of computer = 5 unit

ur profit =12 hour x RM 2 x 5 unit
            = RM 120 per day
total profit a month(including weekends) =RM 120 x 30 days = RM 3600 !!

if u carefully,calculated all thing(electric bill,and shop fees) u still can gain a nice profit.
if 1 computer use total 600 watt,it means in 1 hour u use 600 watt/hour
total electric usage(a month) = 600watt x 5 unit x 12 hour x 30 days
                                          = 1080 kWh

1 st 200 unit(RM 0.218)      = RM 43.60
next 800 unit(RM0.258)      = RM206.40
additional 80 unit(RM0.278) = RM 22.24

total usage a month = RM 272.24 (or around RM 300/mth)

ur actuall profit = RM 3600 - RM 300
                      = RM 3300/mth !!

see tats y cyber cafe is worth for gain alot of money.if u r smart,u can sell some beverage,drinks etc to gain more.
p/s:this is my idea which i give to all my fren to start a good business. dun worry this idea actually works.pls correct me if i'm wrong.
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LOL, I can see your friend's business go under in the first few months.

First of all, nobody is gonna visit a cyber cafe with 5 pcs. Face it. If I want to surf, I can surf at home. If I wanan game, 5pcs won't cut it. Even if you open your cafe near a college. I'm sure their colleges have libraries with computers in them. Also, you're talking about 100% utilisation....tsk tsk tsk. Nothing is ideal in this world. Using a 100% efficiency is boud for disaster.

And like the others said, you have to pay rental, bla blalblablalbal...3k profit?? LOL. I'm not sure if managing a 300 bucks profit is viable now.
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post Mar 26 2006, 06:14 PM

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poor vion, every one here shoot him until he not dare to login again... sweat.gif
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post Mar 26 2006, 11:42 PM

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erm missed out some stuffs as well... u need to settle original games and the monthly licences as well *if not i would be driving a beemer and not a kelisa =.="* servicing maintenance ? extra cash to keep the local feds and the local triads away ?
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post Mar 26 2006, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Mar 26 2006, 01:28 AM)
but the problem is if the key is in use it will show the message whereas when i tried to connect the message comes out as your cd key is invalid!
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if they put original cdkey for all pc, then customer will complain "why that guy can connect i cannot?" , so its better put pirated cdkey if not decide to put different cdkey for different computer

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post Mar 27 2006, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(pornstar173 @ Mar 26 2006, 06:14 PM)
poor vion, every one here shoot him until he not dare to login again... sweat.gif
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Hehehe, he posted his assumptions with good intentions but kena hentam teruk-teruk... Sure our friend also scared to come back... biggrin.gif
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post Mar 27 2006, 01:49 AM

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hmm...i appreciate all of lowyatt member.the fact is this is my idea which i help my fren to setup his 1st cc.till now his cc still working on.

yeah i know that my idea is too cocky,but this is a simple idea on how to make a business.(its was the same example when ppl wan to start a MLM business).all u need is thinking through about it and some brialliant idea from ur self.

i'm not scare to be "hentam teruk-teruk" by our lowyat member coz i dare to face the challenge.i not login wasnt im too scare to face the problem but i got a lot jobs to be done in(computer troubleshoot,hdd check,server setup hardware,etc)

BTW, each ppl have their own idea.
pros or cons of the idea depends on individual decision and concern.
we r not recrut in military.we just a normal ppl.

infinite idea = ur own consideration of idea

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post Mar 27 2006, 10:32 AM

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In KK the most leading cyber, spend RM500k for all. 2 shoplot, All 19" lcd, forget how many pc, but a lot.


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QUOTE(vion @ Mar 27 2006, 01:49 AM)
hmm...i appreciate all of lowyatt member.the fact is this is my idea which i help my fren to setup his 1st cc.till now his cc still working on.

yeah i know that my idea is too cocky,but this is a simple idea on how to make a business.(its was the same example when ppl wan to start a MLM business).all u need is thinking through about it and some brialliant idea from ur self.

i'm not scare to be "hentam teruk-teruk" by our lowyat member coz i dare to face the challenge.i not login wasnt im too scare to face the problem but i got a lot jobs to be done in(computer troubleshoot,hdd check,server setup hardware,etc)

BTW, each ppl have their own idea.
pros or cons of the idea depends on individual decision and concern.
we r not recrut in military.we just a normal ppl.

infinite idea = ur own consideration of idea

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Wow, you are really a busy person and the good thing is that you are familiar with PCs... So a standard rig that is fit for gaming and with original Windows will roughly cost how much, btw?

I may consider one for my own gaming use actually...
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post Mar 27 2006, 07:28 PM

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Actually , the cost of setting up a CC can vary... from RM100k right up to RM1million ( if not mistaken there is one in Subang/USJ, 2 story, dedicated gaming, and surfing area)


but for practical side, most entrepeneur will never 'go big' at first if s/he has no capital and no experience setting up a CC before...

And, suggestion for buying shop lot is not a good idea, since you can never predict how long your company can last, when initally starting u wouldnt want your 'cash' to tied up for something, but you rather have something easy to 'liquidate' if you need the cash. i.e FD


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post Mar 29 2006, 12:59 AM

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If I got RM1 million sure won't invest in opening a CC lah. Capital return too slow. With that capital can invest in real estate tradings, import/export stuff already. Export cements, granite, tar etc. building materials to Acheh and those after tsunami now in reconstruction places. Then import back those raw materials and hand-made furniture, interial decoration stuff. Imagine a good wood hand carved flowers door is RM60 each from Indonesia.
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post Mar 29 2006, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(ClieNut Gadget Freak @ Mar 23 2006, 08:36 PM)
Hey guys... Just wanna find out whether any1 here has set-up and operated a cybercafe from scratch before... I have interest in opening one in the near future and i would like to know how to go about, starting from the capital-raising part, to getting bank loan, sourcing for equipment, and all the way to opening date... Thanks!
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no more license for cc if i not wrong............
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Eh izzit ah? I knew that its getting tough to apply for CC license but izzit completely stopped now? huh.gif
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post Mar 29 2006, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 29 2006, 12:59 AM)
If I got RM1 million sure won't invest in opening a CC lah. Capital return too slow. With that capital can invest in real estate tradings, import/export stuff already. Export cements, granite, tar etc. building materials to Acheh and those after tsunami now in reconstruction places. Then import back those raw materials and hand-made furniture, interial decoration stuff. Imagine a good wood hand carved flowers door is RM60 each from Indonesia.
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how to start this import/export business? how much capital is required?
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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Mar 29 2006, 10:17 AM)
how to start this import/export business? how much capital is required?
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It's not easy, a large portion of the capital will be used to bribe the authorities instead of purchasing stocks.
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QUOTE(DeathWing @ Mar 29 2006, 11:00 AM)
It's not easy, a large portion of the capital will be used to bribe the authorities instead of purchasing stocks.
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Depend on where you want to do the import/export lah. Currently there's a programme going on for usahawan muda joint organize by 3 governments to increase trading between Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia. Certain things are sponsored to encourage people. Indonesia provide 2 cargo ships to ship things to Medan. Participants have to fly over to Indonesia first to find buyers and distribute pricelist to potential buyers. It's 100% legal and import tax will be paid on both side when things got imported. I don't have $ to invest in the program. All participants will joint up their capitals to buy things from here to export there.
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post Mar 29 2006, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 29 2006, 01:17 PM)
Depend on where you want to do the import/export lah. Currently there's a programme going on for usahawan muda joint organize by 3 governments to increase trading between Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia.  Certain things are sponsored to encourage people. Indonesia provide 2 cargo ships to ship things to Medan. Participants have to fly over to Indonesia first to find buyers and distribute pricelist to potential buyers. It's 100% legal and import tax will be paid on both side when things got imported. I don't have $ to invest in the program. All participants will joint up their capitals to buy things from here to export there.
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wadabout china?

can get cheap stock from china at large quantity drool.gif
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post Mar 29 2006, 04:50 PM

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If im not mistaken, PJ has STOP licence for NEW OPERATOR, but still renewing licence for current owners...

As for Subang Jaya, u still can get licence but its kinda limited, so u have to be 'friend' with the licensing officer
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post Mar 29 2006, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(owenwong84 @ Mar 27 2006, 10:32 AM)
In KK the most leading cyber, spend RM500k for all. 2 shoplot, All 19" lcd, forget how many pc, but a lot.
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i believe ure mentioning CyberX..from KK too =)
but anyway..its not only 2 shoplot but 4 shoplots!!
it start from 1 shoplot at 1st..bout 2-3 years ago roughtly 40+ comps then expand to upstairs with better comp..
then they expand more again..jz beside the shoplot with brighter and more condusive environment =)..2 shoplots with high-end comp..lcd and etc..about 90++++ or even more..split into 2 part..a room provided with headphones only and other blast with woofers(they limit the speaker volume so wont be that loud)

4 shoplots..its like 200++ comp all together!
p/s: u guys 4gotten bout adsl service..hv to pay a lot ya know...50 comp - 1.5m for rm618..




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time and money is the word....

put a lot of capital in it.. get more PC.. and comfortable chairs.. hehe...

and just wait until your break even... hehe.. then you are earning baby..
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of coz for new startup company would not spend for 4 shoplots...

1 lot is enough...

as for RM1million cybercafe, it is true... it was published 2 years back in local paper... somewhere in USJ/subang, but I forgot the name...

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