Yup, Japanese still doesn't fail to impress me. What's more we can count on Mr. Kojima san, the mastermind behind the already legendary MG Series. So I have high hopes in the next MGS series to say the very least, not sure what are they trying to pull off this time.

no,no...
i meant does it have similiar stuff like that?

what impresses me about the MGS4 TGS trailer,is that it has all these things running in tandem but still no lag of any kind.(this is kojima,we're talking about..if he shows it,he CAN do it!)
most games i see have great graphics but
A)feature humans only
B)feature robots only
C)destructible vehicles only
D)certain destructible buildings..
E)combination of A+B
F)combination of A+B+C
G)combination of A+C+D

i wonder how many malaysians bought the demo...
you know of anyone else?
me,you....anyone else?

they're trying to pull of a lot of different things..
pity the ! doesnt come back
but such is progress...you lose some,you win some...

come on la guys, all consoles is best for me. already have 360, but i also want PS3 and REVO when they release. cannot afford it? try fishing, can make lauk . bro snipersnake, sorry pinjam your magic words

According to the latest 360Gamer Magazine, Bill is also left an opening for blu-ray. If the blu ray format really fly, he will release the blu-ray drive for X360.

By the way, have you guys see the epic fight in Kameo, it spot a lot of items, orcs, dragons in one screen, pack and the x360 glide thru. it without any hiccup, not slow down, silky smooth. The same apply to Call of DutyII, which lag on my high end PC but it bare lag at all on X360. With this kind of power, it really convince me.
Anyway, hope the PS3 don't disappoint you.

so who does he have to pay to release the BR drive?
Sony?
or all the companies involved in making br?


just watching the mgs4 tgs trailer is enough to convince me

i'm saying that Mgsrulz wanna a game exactly like MGS4 for xb360, which mean the developer have to be copycat of MGS4. not MGS4 is a copycat.


that is dev kit running pre-render video, not the real thing. unless they start showing the real thing, i'm not gonna accept it as a way to compare with released games like GRAW. btw, i just finish playing GRAW online, 10 player, almost 30 AI, no lag in the graphic whatsoever. the only lag is the internet connection not fast enough


like i said, it's still cannot be consider the real thing. if trailer can be counted, then i can use FN3 trailer for xb360, which show the boxer looks totally like a real person. of coz anyone played it will know the actual games doesn't looks as good as the trailer.

go and grab some trailers of previous MGS games.
compare that to the end product.
tell me honestly which is better?
i can tell you the end product beats the first few trailers anytime,and is on par with the latest of the trailers.
so whatever Kojima Productions rolls out on the e3/tgs floor,and they say it can be done,you better believe it can be done.
Kojima productions are not some lousy first party programmers,and they never lie..
if it has been shown by them,it can be done


streamyx...

online gaming in malaysia...no hope..


like i said before,go check MGS's trailers..all are in game graphics,and all blow the doors off of the imagination....

Killzone 2 is another matter-that was some video crap...they even said they made it a 5fps video or some shit i cant remember,but MGS4,they actually showed footage of Shinkawa and Kojima's tester playing with the lens/weather/zooming in and out of areas(such as Otacon's logo on Snake's suit ),changing otacon's LIGHTING! and others...

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Apr 11 2006, 02:31 AM

no need for GRAW, you aint doing urself any favors by missing Oblivion. though I'd prefer the one on PC.

oblivion...nice graphics,but i'd rather get the 360 version...
PCs are too darn expensive to upkeep...and with oblivion?
need alot of new hardware...
not to mention a new hard drive!
i've only got 6GB!

then get the 360! that game alone is worth the price of admission. but 6GB? holy crap, my photos take up more space then that!

but oblivion is not all about the graphics...it just...sucks you into its world.

This post has been edited by BurgaFlippinMan: Apr 11 2006, 02:51 AM

LOL, i don't have any video from previous MGS trailer, so long ago adi. but still, if thats the real thing i believe it is achievable, since the quality doesn't looks much different from GRAW, only lacking destructable building like MGS4.

the lags comes from the 30+ AI movement have to be sent to 10 xb360, surely will lag. but when we play teamA vs teamB, 14 person, without any computer AI, no lag whatsoever. even pJ who's in UK can still join us

so embarassing...


but you cant help but drool over it,too...
whatever it is,graphics is on par with gameplay when speaking of 360 and ps3..

not only destructable buildings,but:


stress just thinking about the money that will be spent on this console...


if you really want the trailers,gametrailers should still have at least MGS3's trailers...


looks like tmnuts DO do a good job...


ya,right...like that'll ever happen...

btw,you using 1 Mb or 512kbps?

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Apr 11 2006, 03:01 AM

i'm using good ol 512 connection

erm..but i dunno la...mgs3 online very smooth...magic/

If you want big giant robot try this http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/chr...unds/media.html
You can lay your hand on it in just 1~2months time, not like MGS4 which you wont be able to see it until late next year or 2009. See when did PS2 launched and when did Konami able to produce the previous MGS(about 4years, right?) and you can see what i mean.

In cae you want to see the raw power of X360, go see the up coming title, Dead Rising. The on screen zombies are unbelievable, literally fill the whole screen. Remember this is still consider as the first gen. game for x360. Can't imagine what they can do with x360 once the producers masterd all it's potential.

This post has been edited by chtan: Apr 11 2006, 11:25 AM

it all depends on thier developer I guess.

you see GT 4 , Tourist Trophy . Why they can make that kind of graphics in ps2. instead of others crappy 3d ?

Here is some good reading :-
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives...e_xbox_360.html

Here is another problem for sony:-
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060219-6216.html

And here is a more rational article:-
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060212-6162.html

and no, i don't means to denounce PS3 but they are too exagerating it's power. I would expect PS3 performance is on par with X360.

...psp...so small..so powerful..so expensive

i think the onli thing that the ps3 is more powerfull than the X360 ...its the Cell processor

im speechless..

what can i say...Kojima productions..

4 years?
IINM mgs2 came out in 2001...and THAT was already an amazing feat...MGS3 just upped the ante...


yeah,that game is quite good.,..and who made it?
the japs...


it still depends on the game...
games like gt and tt only have riders...maybe some spectators...so it wouldnt take that much processing power to achieve the graphics that it can...
unlike games which have blood and other stuff,that'll surely be below the graphics of gt/tt as the console would have to produce other stuff besides the character models...and gt's ai isnt what i'd call brilliant....leaving even less for the processor to do..

we'll have to wait and see come E3/november