hi all..
first of all..no harm here..

i just curios..
do Drawing/Sketching for a designer really that important??
because wat am i studying now..didnt hv tis course into..

from wat i seem from those newspaper nowaday (recruitment part)
they request as a designer u need to know..Drawing/Sketching
is that really important..in the future work??
if u dunno..how to work out abt it?
(i only know..how to designing frm softward sob sob)

imho it depends on what post you take.. i think drawing/sketching is quite critical for the post of designer... it really important ( from my point of view ) since designer are most likely have to scribble things first before make it perfect. but if u are really good in using software to sketch / drawing.. then u maybe need to ask them la..

i'm also BAD at sketching haih..

urm.. *shrug*

i can't really draw but I can sketch out ideas. does that count?

anyway, i think sketching can be done by anyone. as to drawing, it depends how much detail you'd wanna put in.

everybody can sketch.. but not all people can draw...
it really depends on the job that you're applying and what kind of designer you are..

if you're to work in 'web' design industry.. then, you don't really need to have this kind of skill.. (but you can roughly sketch the idea of how the website's gonna be..)

you might need all the sketches & drawing to be compile it as your portfolio and present it during interview session...

This post has been edited by victorboy: Mar 22 2006, 11:19 PM

sketches is the best way for idea developement

allow me to ask..
wat is the different between drawing and Sketching..??
i am abit confuse abt it..

Drawing i know la..(drawing ur design with using ur softward)
and?
Sketching sumthing like..design the lay out??

correct me..if i am wrong..

sketch is a undetailed drawing..
skteches is not limited to layout only.. even for the content of a website can be sketch so that it's more clear of what the aim/result's gonna be..

drawing to me ought to be more specific... there's a calculation of height, width (needs some math skill as well).. and also short description/label on every part of it..


Drawing i know la..(drawing ur design with using ur softward) - i dunno whether that's called drawing..

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i'm assuming that you have went through form 5 (spm).. when you studied pure science subject and when there was a graph-related experiment... you can see there's a big difference on sketching a graph and drawing graph..

This post has been edited by ikram_zidane: Mar 23 2006, 12:39 AM

Depends on what you wanna be... I can't draw for nuts either
Then again, I don't want to work as a designer all my life...

same here....i do design for temp only
after 5-10 more years...i'll change to another field
where can earn more money
hurmm maybe that time i still do designing
as a freelance or for fun only
hehe
just my future planning

ikram_zidane

i am not in science class ..when i was in form 5.so i dunno
.sob sob..

althought u cant draw...
but u still can using softward to draw..it..or design it..
it much easier for me..to using a pentool instead using a pencil..

no matter what.. you need to know the basics before other tools.. and the basics of ideas or design is the pen, pencil, paper along with observations..

you sketch out something because you don't wanna lose the idea. you draw something because you'd like to make it concrete. if you don't the know basics of pencil shading or the study of it using a pencil, you're jumping over a boulder and just diving into digital design.

if you think it's ridiculous, ask yourself why doesn't the concept artist in Star Wars Doug Chiang just use digital tools right away to come up with something instead of pencil, rulers, erasers, markers.. and etc.

no matter how great digital tools are advancing, never forget the roots of things.

Cheers.

imo, its quite important as when u face ur client ..coz u only can sketch out ur concept/ideas on paper to show to ur client on the spot if the client request to...u cant sketch ur stuff on ur comp unless u got a laptop tablet..

go do Insurance or Direct Selling?

Prasad


just got dis email...so wut do u guys think? rm30k+ job?

being a designer isnt dat bad imho

RM30k inclusive of providing end material/product?

Are you even sure it's not a con or scam?

should be rm30k+ wiff the material ....or should i put rm50K?

scam? con? prasad is my oldschool mate....

what a designer needs is the ability to communicate.

u see, a designer have lots of things going on in his/her head. unless u are a xavier class telepath, u need to convey this idea precisely and with the utmost impact. the delivery medium is also important.

some designers communicate best by sketching. this is the fastest way to relay ur ideas visually. with additional write-ups, u'll add another dimension to those sketches. and when u present the work verbally, it'll even add a few other dimensions to ur presentation. at the end of the day, u communicate with the medium that u're best familiar with.

and this is not just about u and the client. it's the same when u're studying as well!

some students b**** about "i cant draw, so i will fail". that's a total bull. malaysian design industry have been stereotyped that designer MUST be able to draw. heck, i've been around in the UK, hardly any designer could actually draw. if they CAN draw, they'd be calling themselves artists.

i can't draw...i really can't...the peeps i draw looks like aliens...i visualise it on the computer...it's faster dat way for me...and the clients will have a clearer picture of my design...i'm not planning to learn to draw..coz it doesn't really affect me much...

i think as long as you can put down ur rough ideas to paper (process of turning idea into visual), is more than enough, no matter is ugly or messy

everyone has their own style, so dun be so ashame of ur sketching

If you're a designer, just pick up a pencil and train yourself.

Its important as it raises your value as a designer. If given a choice, who'd rather take a designer that 'can't draw' if theres one that 'can draw' around?

But drawing is relative, honestly I don't find a big a difference in drawing and sketching.

At the end of the day, as a designer, its YOUR way of visually showing your client what he/she needs. Trust me when I say, verbal discussions on a project is the most f***tarded way to do things. Your margin of error is huge when you don't have a sketch to fall back on.

So, as for me,.. as a designer. Yes, it is important.

Pick it up,...

hmm, all i can say being a designer is you must be really CREATIVE..

also, drug does not make ur mind become more creative...

and smoking doesn't exactly take all your stress away..

drugs and cigarette just makes u feel worse...

sketching is not really a must, but it helps u in developing your idea...and drawing is more to detail sketches...

well, unless ur very good in digital illustration, i suggest stick to the ol' pencil and paper...with sketches, u can come up with wacky and new ideas...

i'm a design student, and sketching is a must in my development...and there're here to stay until i digitise and start on screen work...plus, sketches are a great plus to be put into your portfolio...

but wat i heardsf from my Lecture..was told me abt..
in the Our Market Field..there are..2 different type of position..

one is Graphic Artist..whom u need a Drawing/Sketching Skills..

and another one is Graphic Designer..whom more base on using Softward To DO..


It depend..which position..u are applying from..
Netherless..i dun even know how Hand Sketching ..sob sob.instead of using softward
i am affraid..is it an Essential to hv it..in the future jobs??
(correct me..if i am wrong)

Yea..for me.to say honestly,i am not those creative type at all..all my ideas..is came from wat i Read/Seem from Magazine,Graphic Books,Friends,GF,Internet
Do must practice hell more alotz..only can get to improved

did u know that design creativity does not correlate much to the ability to draw?

ofcourse, there are connections, but to assume design creativity=ability to draw is far fetched. i'd like to share from my reading that creativity is a whole different media. it all boils down to two type of thinking:

convergent and divergent.

intelligent people, most based on logics and order, are tend to be convergent thinkers. they are more conforming and compliant, eager to seek approval of their elders or superiors.

divergent thinkers, the creative lot, are more independent and tend to set their own standards.

divergent thinkers tend to like art a lot, hence our tendency to relate art with creativity. but we could understand, simply, that being creativity doesnt necessarily need art. hence back to the my main argument:

designers need to be creative. artists need to be creative too. although artists are solely divergent thinkers, designers actually have both: divergent AND convergent thinking. designers must solve externally imposed problems, satisfy the needs of others and create beautiful objects.

artists, on the other hand, satisfies their own needs.

there are a whole bunch of designers out there, but little could actually differentiate themselves between designers and artists. so where do u draw the line?




pretty bogged up argument eh? this is what i've been studying for the past year. my nose is bleeding now...

i am in the middle of the line..haha~

Drawing is wat get me into digital design.

Personally, web developer/artist no need master hand-drawing. All u need to do is get in touch wif coding and design softwares.

Graphic designer need to understand art foundation in order to Output a Standard work. Mostly into graphics composition & color picking.
At last know how to imitate art should be a potential "artist" oredi.

If u can draw nicely, it is a self-pleasure too.. haha.
So, why not learn to draw better?!

I had seen a guy opened a topic at www.conceptart.org 3 years ago. He was completed not into art-life. He put the first sketch of him. He done pretty bad.

After three years(now), he can do impressive portrait. He is willing to capture the essense of art. HE WAS THE ONE DECIDE HIS OWN DESTINATION.

So, neva say drawing is a hard thing. It takes determination & patience.

IMO, Drawing is to draw it stylish not perfectly~!

ahaks! well in my case, it does slow down my heart beat and i can be calm and steady when the dateline is around the corner...

well...it just me...