Yes I did. The scammers have a faction split, the consultants have taken sides, and they are now competing for the loyalties of the flock. I am also wondering where all the notable personalities (Pat Lu, Shereen, Dee Casey, Shanti, etc.) are in this little civil war.

I am honestly wondering about that too. What the heck was going on there? Did the prosecution fucuk up the case?

A bit late right? Quite some time back, UMNO offered to procure free legal services for those who wanted to sue Genneva and their directors. Only a handful took up the offer. Your friend should have joined in earlier.

For that matter, BNM was asking for everyone involved to step up and file a report too in order to aid in their investigation. I think a lot of victims refused to do so because they were bamboozled by the Genneva Supporters facebook page. I expect many of them are now regretting it.

Anyway, its all stuck in limbo now and no one is getting back anything until the case is closed...which would take I dunno how long but supposedly its going to be expedited...supposedly. Once that is done, your friend can file a claim for his share of what was recovered. Mind you...there really isn't much left. He's definitely not getting back the full sum. He can consider himself lucky to even get back 10%. Yup, this is going to be worse than Madoff...

If his investment is not significant, just give it up and consider it a lesson learnt. If its a lot, I would suggest he get his arse back here and file a report with BNM and than make a police report as well. Bring along any supporting documents related to his dealings with Genneva for their investigation. If he doesn't do this, it might be harder for him to file a claim later for his share of the recovered gold and monies.

There is a union? I don't think so, or at least I haven't heard of one. If there was any 'organized' activity, it was actually in support of Genneva itself but that seems to have died down. In fact, we are all wondering what happened to the prominent Genneva supporters like Pat Lu, Auntie Shereen, etc.

Get your friend to file a case with BNM first and see where he can take it from there.

That's the site we have been talking about if you have been reading this thread since v3. Many of suspect that it was run by people who are directly connected to Genneva themselves and that one of the administrators is the infamous Pat Lu.

For many months after the raid, that page has been encouraging victims to actually stand behind the Genneva directors instead, and to not cooperate with BNM. They have even tried to do silly nonsense like asking inves...*cough* err...gold buyers...to file police reports NOT against Genneva but directed at Bank Negara instead. Supposedly, the so-called Steering Committee behind GMS will take those reports and use them to apply for a Judicial Review of BNM's raid. They even collected RM50 from those who wanted in on this supposedly to help cover legal expenses.

The JR was never filed for reasons they have refused to fully disclose but one can assume that lawyers told them they were bat-shit crazy and should lay off the bong they were smoking. The money they collected? No refunds. Now the steering committee themselves have vanished into thin air.

I guess its a good thing your friend didn't get in on all that bullshit.

Hurray! Savana Sim is back even if Dee Casey is not (but likely they are the same person).

Sod the diet, its time to break out the popcorn.

I dunno, I'm not sure if Pat Lu is part of the scam or an unwitting collaborator. IMHO, it seems to me like she wholeheartedly believes in Genneva because the alternative is just too terrible to consider. Some people purposely blind themselves from the truth because it hurts too much. I would say this also applies to Shereen.

At least I think only Dee Casey/Savana Sim is a willing conspirator. As for Andy and Shanti, I suspect they know the truth but they are already committed so deeply that they have no choice but to stick with the directors until things get really dire (as in they risk being sued or sharing responsibility for the scam).

Lol now that you guys mentioned it, I do remember the Japanese restaurant and Galaxy Note incident so yeah...she is probably an active partner after all.

Anyway, its rather interesting what they've put up on their FB page and website. They are claiming that there nobody is going to get anything back unless Genneva is proven innocent. If Genneva is guilty, than the gold and monies will be confiscated by BNM. What's more, its allegedly stated by their lawyer.

Incidentally, isn't the audit supposed to be completed by now? What happened to the results?

Edit: http://gms101.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/gen...-wanted-by-bnm/



LOL! First, its down with BNM. Now its kudos BNM. Won't they ever make up their minds?

Reminds me of back before GE13 and they were all bashing BN. Naturally, this led to some bashing of Dr. M too but that had to be put to a halt because the admins insist that he was the only person to speak up on their behalf.

Anyway, it doesn't make sense. If Ahmad Khairuddin was the one who reported Genneva to BNM, than why would BNM go after the whistleblower?

This post has been edited by arubin: Oct 22 2013, 01:46 AM

Holy crap, I'm being quoted on the disgruntled page. That's actually kinda creepy...

http://www.inquisitr.com/223656/pat-lu-wel...ming-30k-month/

Different Pat Lu but nevertheless a scammer lol. Looks like it really is a name to run away from.

Yeah, except it might fold before even 6 months is up. Either that or they'll dilly-dally with your cheque after you pull out. Standard tactic that...

Pretty sure she's Catholic, or at least very good at pretending to be Catholic.

Who are you addressing here? Most of us who still loiter in and follow this thread haven't invested in Genneva at all so we lost nothing. We're just following the case out of interest and curiosity.

Also, no one is blaming religion for anything. We're just commenting on the hypocrisy of one of the prominent consultants, claiming to be a good Catholic and yet participating in such schemes.

For goodness sake, pay attention!

Pretty sure Joseph Kow is no ordinary consultant. He's someone fairly high up their hierarchy. Regional Director or something like that. Not too sure.

So they haven't really starting charging any of the lower ranking foot soldiers just yet.

Wow, there's activity in this thread again after all this long while? Its nice to know that Pat is on BNM's radar though.

Anyway, I checked out the Royal Gold site and its so obvious that its Genneva rebooted.


Heebah yet again. Not very original are they?



Sound familiar? Where have we heard that before?

And there's this little gem from BNM's FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/bnm.official/posts...151083469604872


Edit: There's some serious titles in the Management Team though. I think BNM will have a hard time acting against them.


Yet another royal family member. From Pahang as well like a certain former Genneva chairperson.


He has a profile here:
http://www.inceif.org/index.php/faculty-members/147

Inceif is actually a BNM institution and its chaired by none other than TS Dr Zeti herself.


Crikey, yet another royal family member....


This post has been edited by arubin: Jan 2 2014, 12:34 PM