RESPONSE TO SAVANA SIM'S (DEE CASEY) LYING AND DECEITFUL POST IN THE GMS FB SITE :
I am angry and helpless. I have been supportive of GM and its officers and all that we can see is that they have done nothing.
A : Glad you have finally come to the realisation of the truththat they have done nothing instead of maliciously asking us to be patient with GM and its officers in the past. Of course they haven't done anything. Why should they? They have been stealing all this while from the victims and have absolutely no intentions of paying the victims back even in the unlikely event of them being acquited.
I am tempted to believe the general view (which I am sure you all share with me) that perhaps the directors have siphoned vast sums of money and are prepared to take off even if it means the price they have to pay is a few years in jail. Perhaps they can escape with a light sentence or “pay” their way out of the situation. It annoys me to no end that this has been going on endlessly for a full year.
A: I sure as heck hope they do not escape and get at least 50 strokes of the rotan and a minimum of a life sentence in jail for all the pain they have caused. It annoys us no end that you had endlessly chosen to protect these effing parasites for a full year.
Therefore, it was a moment of immense relief when I read the headlines of Genneva and its officers being charged in court. Relieved because the uncertainty of all the past one year (to JR or not to JR?) has suddenly been given a starting point to progress the situation one way or another.
A : Relief? You effing liar! You were extremely protective of the directors and management for a full year. And the JR was another one of your scams to divert all attention to BNM, falsely accuse them, lie to the victims, steal their RM50 and stall. All this has turned out to be a scam agitated by you (Dee Casey) and Pat Lu. Now, pay the JR participants back their RM100K, you thick-skinned thief!
My interest and concern has been the conspicuous lack of action by Genneva and its officers. It appears to me to be unbelievable that they would just sit back and has do nothing.
A : No, the victims' interest and concern were the conspicuous lack of action by Genneva and its officers. For stating so, victims' concerned comments were deleted, still being deleted and they are/were banned. You, on the other hand, told us to fully support Genneva and its officers whist they were 'working hard behind the scenes'. It is unbelievable that you would just sit back and lie about your past.
The starting point for the new situation must necessarily begin with the seizure of the company’s assets by BNM and its stoppage of business by GM. It follows from this that the seizure was the prelude to commence investigations against GM on suspicion of wrongfully accepting deposits and money laundering.
A : Please do not lie again. BNM, in concert with PDRM, Ministry of Domestic Trade, IRB conducted the raid after numerous complaints and police reports were lodged on non gold delivery. This was also the case with Genneva Singapore. Therefore, they acted upon complaints not on suspicion.
Like all investigations it has taken its time and the charges we read in the papers were ostensibly the results of this investigations. Although the exaggerated figure of 900 charges appears ominous, in reality it is only two charges (Money laundering, and wrongful deposit taking), repeated many, many times over. Times and dates may vary, but the substance of the charge remain the same.
A : In short, they stole vast amounts over 900 times. Don't be facetious - these charges are ominous. Cease your laughable attempt in trying to water down the grave gravity of the stealing.
This appears to contradict all the earlier allegations of the GM structure being a Ponzi scheme and possible massive wrongdoings by GM have suddenly disappeared. This tells me that perhaps BNM, having taken action are now compelled to this limited cause of action, without any further way of escaping severe public criticism for wrongfully having stopped a business that was benefitting so many people in so many ways.
A : The GM structure is a Ponzi. They were running a business with a 10-1 liability-asset ratio totally reliant on new customers instead of the 'Blue Ocean Strategy' advocated by you and the other con artists. This is NOT a limited cause of action by BNM. This is the biggest scam in Malaysian business history. In case you didn't read the headlines, GMSB broke all records. And that is nothing to be proud of. Oh, and Genneva wasn't benefitting so many people in so many ways. Rather, it was benefitting the directors, management, Poh Weng's 3 unemployed kids and Philip Lim's wife, Kah Heng and his unemployed girlfriend in over 1800 ways. Because of the fact they were stealing and not paying up as they should, it has caused untold suicides, pain and loss to the victims. Cease with the lying already.
What’s even more perplexing, is that in the 2008 Genneva Sdn Bhd case it was this same two charges that were leveled at the company, and the court ruled that they did no wrong, so what more now, when GM would have learned from past mistakes and tightened up procedures even further?
A : The Genneva SB case and this are totally dissimilar, as you have told us in the past. When GSB were charged, you do recall that you wrote a lengthy piece telling us not to equate the two companies because they were different, dont you? Please stop treating us as fools. And yes, GM did learn from past mistakes, they decided to steal billions from the company now and "hope they get a light sentence'.
It appears to me equally obvious that the directors of the company have not really walked away from the situation. The company has been kept running, albeit with a skeleton staff, at their own personal cost and contributions. Surely this cannot be the behavior of persons who want to abandon ship. It follows that such people would not have been totally inactive in salvaging the situation.
A : Historically, Ponzi scammers have egos almost as big as yours. They assume they will never get caught. Bernie Madoff ran his Ponzi for 30 years and didnt run away either. Your lame attempt at using 'not running away' to protect the directors and mgt is pretty pathetic. Have they not run away from all the victims valid queries since GMSB was raided? Why didnt they do the right thing in assuring victims that they will be paid back? Instead, they used people like you who were paid to do their dirty work for them and trick the uneducated into thinking they are all 'good people'. Frankly, for that alone, you deserve a 100 strokes of the rotan - minimum.
The tragedy of the situation was their inability to communicate to the GM community what steps they were taking because going public would have prejudiced all their actions and exposed the company to the anger and the desire for vengeance by all the relevant people. Therefore, it appears that the directors of the company have borne the situation with fortitude and a commitment to protect the GM community.
A : There you go again trying to protect these effing parasites. They had the the 'inability to communicate' because they were bloody stealing from the victims, you moron! Fortitude and commitment to protect the GM community? Now, how much were you paid to state that?! Truly laughable especially when it is not true. It appears that you are paid heaps to protect the directors with fortitude and commitment to lie reprehensibly.
In this moment of their personal liberties and lives being at stake, one must take a very objective and impersonal approach because our first and natural reaction is to take steps to protect our own separate investments.
A : Yes, get a lawyer, send an immediate letter of demand that these parasites will return everything that was stolen back to the victims. Failing which, their asses will be sued. But you won't, will you? You paid assassin.
The issue therefore is whether this is the correct approach in this moment of time. In this regard, let me place the following facts before you.
1.We all were very active and forceful in our unified attempts at the actions of BNM. We made lots of noise for a while and then it all fizzled out. This must have been one of the objectives of BNM that if it was dragged on long enough the GM community would run out of steam. Their objective appears to have been achieved.
A: No, it fizzled out because you were caught continuously lying and you are still continuing to lie to the uneducated victims. The educated ones have taken matters in their own hands and are astutely suing to regain back whatever they can from your effing paymasters.
2.At this point in time, one must bear in mind the time old adage that divided we fall, united we stand. It would be a tremendous source of support and encouragement if we showed our willingness to be behind the company and its officers in their battle to regain operations, if for no other reason but to allow them a proper opportunity to repay all the investors and settle the crisis to the satisfaction of the GM community.
A : Here we go again with the united we must stand behing the directors mantra. FYI, only 3% of the victims are with you. The smart remainder see you and Pat Lu as the devil incarnate doing your paymasters' bidding. Proper opportunity? Huh? These thieves refuse to even acknowledge the victims cries for help and you're pleading with them AGAIN to give another chance to the bloody crooks? Sorry, make that 200 lashes of the rotan for you.
3.There is a need to conserve resources and to exercise patience because depletion of either at this moment will be self-destructive.
A : Easy for you to say " conserve resources and exercise patience' since you've got RM100K from the fraudulent JR exercise and untold moolah from your thieving paymasters. Victims are committing suicide and are self-destructive because of Pat Lu's and your false promises and fake hopes. And unashamedly, you continue to sell them lies,lies,lies.
All that has been said above may appear in the extreme to be highly protective and supportive of the company
A : Tell us, how much are they paying you to be 'highly protective and supportive of the company'?
1. 1. It’s a general perception that GM perhaps has already run its course and that BNM took this action to protect the customers.
A : Yes, GM is dead,nada,zilch,zero. And yes, BNM took this action because your effing paymasters were stealing and many did not receive their gold/money as stipulated. Because of these complaints, BNM had to take action.
2.The reason for the inaction by GM and its officers is their preference for GM to be shut down by the authorities as a way of escaping our wrath.
A : Yes. Also, they can't very well tell us that their kids and wives were raiding the company too, could they? So, they did the next best thing - pay you, Pat Lu, Shereen Lim, KE Goh, Catty Chong amongst others to sell lie after lie to the uneducated victims.
3.The situation does not leave us any alternative because if we decide to initiate any legal action, it may backfire back against us as in the case of FX Capital Consultant (M) Sdn Bhd where the Court of Appeal rejected claims by depositors and forfeited the funds to the Federal Government. I am uncertain as to whether if we commence any premature action as being proposed by certain quarters may not be self destructive. It may be preferable and more rewarding to await the outcome of the prosecution of GM & its officers at which time we may be in a clearer situation as to which party would be the best to be providing us relief.
A : It will be at the court's discretion. The FX case was dissimilar. Also, the FX directors kids and wife were not stealing. There are other avenues to retrieve - sue Poh Weng's wife, Philip Lim's wife, Kah Heng, his unemployed friend, illegal consultants,directors, mgt in their personal capacities. Cease protecting these scumbags. 300 lashes more for telling the victims to support crooks and do nothing.
The kind of actions taken by BNM is highly dictatorial, but then if you accept $500 from the powers that be, then these are the ‘endless possibilities’ that you get in return.
A : Au contraire - you and Pat Lu are highly dictatorial. And God knows how much you guys have taken from the parasites. There are 'endless possibilities' that the both of you will receive your due karma in the afterlife for only looking out for your interests and the GMSB directors,mgt,kids interests instead of the victims.
My own take on this situation is to support GM and its officers, immaterial of our own frustration and anger as the most self-serving, practical and realistic approach at this point in time. Relying on innuendo, rumors and wild allegations will be self-destructive. I will not serve any useful purpose giving credence to this.
A : Support crooks?! Yes, sure. God, they must be paying you gazillions! Relying on you will be self-destructive to each and every single victim. You do not serve a useful purpose and you have no credence or credibility whatsoever. 500 strokes of the rotan for you, you leeching blood-sucking parasite.
Wait for my next installment. I have more to say
A : Hopefully, it won't be filled with embellishments and diversions to support your paymasters again. But then again, I bet it will. Money to protect your paymasters at the expense of the victims is a major motivation for you and Patricia Lu Pitt Chin. Do bring it on. It's been fun dissecting all your pathetic lies and excuses.
Oct 8 2013, 01:18 PM
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