A darn interesting read. It explains a lot in how these people think.

The truth hurts, I suppose. In not accepting the truth, they assume they can relive their dreams.

They are completely the opposite of the CHGS Growers who appear more savvy.

Btw, there are some pretty enlightnening articles at the Genneva Disgruntled Customers Group in Facebook.

This post has been edited by StockInvestor: Feb 8 2013, 11:10 AM

This is also a very good article:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai...-never-go-away/

More revealing is the comments section:

I think many of the GMS folks will be of the same mindset.

And check out the reply:

Happy New Year everyone ! For those driving outstation - drive safely

whoever typing as Dee Casey must be investigated and put to justice
if not, then we really can use internet (facebook) to do everything we can and everything we want to manipulate and crime

Wonderin what lulu serving for reunion dinner? Blood popsickles like what the eskimos use to kill polar bears?

Hey.

Didn't follow this thread for so long and I'm so out dated. I just heard it from my friend during cny that the boss of genneva was murdered. He and his whole family. They said it came out in the Chinese newspaper. Is it true?

False news. Some disgruntled Chinese customer make a photochop to curse or threaten the directors only. That's all.

It's so obvious now JR will never be filed
But can always say they r victims bcos they have not enough police reports to proceed
This can buy them very much time
Any post asking about how many police reports done n how many more needs will be reply by Casey's irrelevant rage n the person got banned.
I think they r waiting to get 60k police reports

Yes, apparently the JR will not be filed. It was a non-starter and a guise to lie to the customers. Give them false hope. Pretend that they will kill BNM. Stall. Deceive. Protect the Directors.

When the JR fails to take off, Dee and the GMS Admin intend to blame the Protem Committee and the consultants for not forcing their customers to make enough police reports.

More news from one of the victims here : http://www.facebook.com/?flyingspaghettimonster=tn_tnmn#!...162867987187986

This post has been edited by StockInvestor: Feb 13 2013, 05:45 PM

I don't see anything on GMS about not filing a JR. However, I do recall that they are supposed to be filing one after the CNY holidays have ended. One day has pass since the holiday is over. Any updates?

Edit: For further proof on how deluded those hardcore folks on GMS are, check out this little post by Lulu:


Yeah, I agree that Singapore's media is more reliable than Malaysian. What about it? Singapore's media has called Genneva yet another ponzi scheme, don't see you guys taking heed.

You only hear what you want to hear and shut out what out those you don't agree with.

This post has been edited by arubin: Feb 13 2013, 10:47 PM

Looks like all the bravado about filing for JR after CNY has fizzled.

Where have all the smart victims gone to?

Like someone said - most of the logical victims have either left the page or been banned for asking the right Q's. All that remains there are a minimal number of victims who bemusedly enough admit to blindly following a faceless adviser. It's like watching a s-l-o-w train wreck.

Pat Lu (GMS Admin) has reverted to Director fuelled $ to sponsor the page daily to garner the Anti-Barisan crowd and boost the number of likes. A lil like the "paid groupies" the Barisan procure for their ceramahs. Ironic, ain't it?

The following website under JR in the GMS page was unceremoniously deleted by Pat Lu : http://www.loyarburok.com/2011/09/09/legal...udicial-review/
An encapusulation from the said site, "In Malaysia, an application for judicial review is often denied due to ouster clauses. Ouster clauses are finality clauses attempt to completely exclude judicial review. Words such as “final and/or shall not be questioned” are often seen in Acts of Parliament to deem the decision made by the Government be conclusive and does not subject to review. Unfortunately, unlike United Kingdom, we are not prepared to ignore absolute ouster clauses".

Other reasons why the JR seems like having minimal chances of succeeding can be garnered from this Bar Council site : http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/administrat..._singapore.html

Amongst many JR impediments from this site are :
1)"it is therefore not surprising to note that to date there is yet a single case in which administrative acts have been impugned by mala fides". Nuff said.

2) It was quoted at the GMS site that the legal fees being bandied is RM200K and they're not even certain of winning. Good money chasing bad? "Most of all, an unsuccessful public interest litigant would be pauperised by costs, a significant strain on financial resources and a deterrence towards undertaking future public interest litigation cases. Further, an unsuccessful public interest litigant who took on public authorities who are protected by the Public Authorities Protection Act 1948 will be required to pay costs taxed on a solicitor-client basis, a serious impediment indeed to any aspiring public interest litigants".

3) Most damning to their JR cause is if GMSB is found to be unsustainable, the AG can step in as a matter of public interest to deter the company from continuin to scam the general public via Relator Action :"The argument is simple, that is, if the rights asserted by the private individuals are public rights, it is the job of Attorney General who is the guardian and protector of public rights to represent public interest. The Attorney General may initiate actions either at his own volition or at the instance of a member of public by way of a relator action".

It is interesting to note that Pat Lu has deleted the JR post after Dee Casey's mention that "up to 100% victim police reports to impress the judge are needed to file the JR". She seems hell-bent in misleading the sheep. Raj Sami's deleted comment then, "If the judge is going to base his judgement on the number of police reports instead of unjust acts, may God Help us all". My reply to Raj Sami would be - may God help you and the other sheep for blindly following a faceless assassin in Dee Casey who is evidently misleading you lot to another very expensive and time consuming mistake.

Someone's gonna take the fall when the number of police reports do not live up to Dee's "up to 100%" expectations. By the past and present posts of their loyal lieutenants, KE,Yeap,Namaste,Maha,P.Young,Catty et al, the consultants and the Protem Comm are set to be scape-goated whilst Dee & Pat Lu continue to stave off (or delete) important Q's on when exactly the JR will be filed.

Keep the few sheep (and the sponsored page anti BN mercenaries) focussed on BN,BNM,Psy,slaps on faces,police reports. But please don't ask us pertinent Q's about the JR, thank you very much.

Dupe. Deceive. Stall. Protect the Directors.

In the meantime, I'm rather enjoying their anti BN posts - being a pro PR laddie myself. That's about all that page is good for these days. Now hand me the kuaci, will ya

This post has been edited by StockInvestor: Feb 15 2013, 06:13 PM

if that is the mentality of the so called pro-opposition, based on the genneva supporters fb page, then i rather let BN rule for a longer time

Don't be stupid. Not even the opposition are showing their support to genneva. It is very obvious that they are using opposition agenda as an excuse to protect their so called great leaders.

I guarantee that if opposition wins the election, they will start to blame opposition and expect the victims/suckers to wait till GE14.

Whoa, don't lump us pro-opposition supporters with GMS. We have standards, you know. Very clear demarcation line right there, thank you very much.

As I have mentioned repeatedly - GMS do not belong in any political camp but their own. They are political prostitutes. They might be pro-PR and complain about BN now, but do note that they are very deliberately implying that they will vote for BN if Genneva's assets are released. The impression they are trying to give off is that they were all a bunch of sleeping dogs who didn't care about politics until their heebah got taken away. I call bullshit on that.

how much $$ you got trapped in GMS? whom do you vote for NOW?
i'm curious, as usual.

The scariest thing is, if opposition wins, Genneva's gonna say it's because of their votes, and oh no, Malaysians owed it to them lol

and not to mention everything the government spend now is their money... from PSY concert to GE13, from giving out RM500 to open house events... everything is their Gennever Scam money. Genneva got more money thann Petronas and all the oil plum industry combined, so much that it is funding everything the government is doing... Gennever is so big that it is bigger than Malaysia.

Some of these genuine idiots are beyond stupid.

Oh man, auntie Shereen writes the weirdest stuff.



Err...what? That is simple English?

Can I volunteer to have someone do me immorally? Sounds kinky.

I am just wondering if there are other motives behind getting these people to lodge the police reports other than keeping these people hopeful for awhile. What is the actual evil intent behind this ?

I am just wondering if there are other motives behind getting these people to lodge the police reports other than keeping these people hopeful for awhile. What is the actual evil intent behind this ?