Running Dynaudio Esotec System 242 ACTIVE, Comments Please!
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 Jan 15 2013, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Jan 14 2013, 07:02 PM) Yes I have heard them No la.. I nvr meant to take this so heavily...Yes they sounded clean but not analog sounding means not natural if u know what I mean   If you said you have heard them and concluded that it didn't sound good... Then fair enough I respect your comments... |
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Jan 15 2013, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(BelaCHAN @ Jan 14 2013, 07:39 PM) Wow, half a day away and so many useful comments!! Keep 'em commin! Imho... you're good with the amp... since u're running an active system (some say active also nt analog sounding) .Got 2 weeks left to decide, then no need ask opinion liao, just tune =D The Amp is more or less decided (unfortunately, due to budget of course) The speakers.... Hehe.... Suggestions anyone? Still leaning to the Dyns! As for the Dyns, never heard them... but according to a very reputable tuner in JB who has tuned both Dyns & Morel Supremo. He said you need at least 300w for the tweeters. Not sure how true la... just for reference... Maybe you can try get other speakers which are easier to power. 150w x4 is plenty for most speakers. |
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Jan 15 2013, 02:35 PM
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alpine f6 is a good amp, go for it
class d amp is the way to go for ice big power yet small and lightweight (~3kg only) a class ab amp with same power probably weight 6-7kg we can put 4 pdx amps (like 2 pdx-f6 + 2 pdx-m12 under driver and fr passeger seat) i believe a good amp is a good amp regardless of amp class (d/a/ab/h etc) This post has been edited by malutapimau: Jan 15 2013, 04:18 PM |
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Jan 15 2013, 04:08 PM
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The f6 is a great amp if u power entry level speakers haha
But it's a no if u use the dynaudio 242 If u go the dynaudio 242 at least get a genesis series 3 stereo 100 of better DMX or sinfoni haha much better |
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Jan 15 2013, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Jan 15 2013, 04:08 PM) The f6 is a great amp if u power entry level speakers haha i thought sinfoni and genesis is on the same standard? both of them also is a powerful yet musical amp rite?But it's a no if u use the dynaudio 242 If u go the dynaudio 242 at least get a genesis series 3 stereo 100 of better DMX or sinfoni haha much better |
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Jan 15 2013, 06:20 PM
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genesis is dynamic&clean while sinfoni is warm&soft.Genesis suit more to Dynaudio and Morel Elate/Supremo
This post has been edited by vickyz: Jan 15 2013, 06:31 PM |
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Jan 16 2013, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE(LoewLim @ Jan 14 2013, 11:07 AM) Why Alpine F4, F6 no good? Yes. Why? Have u heard them powering a good system tuned by a good tuner? QUOTE(vickyz @ Jan 15 2013, 06:20 PM) genesis is dynamic&clean while sinfoni is warm&soft. Choose one to suit personal preference. QUOTE( On building a good sound system) QUOTE(LoewLim @ Jan 15 2013, 10:13 AM) Imho... you're good with the amp... since u're running an active system (some say active also nt analog sounding) . As for the Dyns, never heard them... but according to a very reputable tuner in JB who has tuned both Dyns & Morel Supremo. He said you need at least 300w for the tweeters. Not sure how true la... just for reference... Maybe you can try get other speakers which are easier to power. 150w x4 is plenty for most speakers. QUOTE(malutapimau @ Jan 15 2013, 02:35 PM) alpine f6 is a good amp, go for it class d amp is the way to go for ice big power yet small and lightweight (~3kg only) a class ab amp with same power probably weight 6-7kg we can put 4 pdx amps (like 2 pdx-f6 + 2 pdx-m12 under driver and fr passeger seat) i believe a good amp is a good amp regardless of amp class (d/a/ab/h etc) Take this in a subtle way, building a system is about balance, there is no point having a finest amp say Luxman CM60000  and a full mohawk drivers... and vice versa. Yes to some point it might sound better than most normal setups, even more classy, but at what cost? With the same amount, getting a mid-ranged amp, a mid-ranged drivers, a good installation could easily surpasses the setup above. but yeah, you lose in being classy though. and for the power, numbers doesn't matter, how clean/stable it is, how does it cope to continuous hi-power burst, is what matters... I am privileged enough to have used a lot of amps, and always have access to a lot of calibrated industrial high-accuracy measuring instruments, I can tell you this, seriously, there are not a lot of them are actually good at it... and yet the mass market worships them...  |
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Jan 16 2013, 03:29 AM
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QUOTE(craziechild @ Jan 16 2013, 02:39 AM) Take this in a subtle way, QFTbuilding a system is about balance, there is no point having a finest amp say Luxman CM60000 and a full mohawk drivers... and vice versa. Yes to some point it might sound better than most normal setups, even more classy, but at what cost? With the same amount, getting a mid-ranged amp, a mid-ranged drivers, a good installation could easily surpasses the setup above. but yeah, you lose in being classy though.  |
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Jan 16 2013, 09:50 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « For the power, I am really not sure how true it is, but this is what the tuner shared with me, I am just bring this out for common reference only. For the rest, I respect your point of view. But I cannot agree with all of them. The best measuring instrument is your own ears, and different people hear things differently. It is easy to list down all those prestige products but sadly not many can afford them. I still recommend getting a good tuner to maximise your equipment with whatever budget you have (limited or unlimited). Good tuners utilises speaker placement & active tuning + whatever proprietary techniques to solve/reduce problems in car environment which is limited in space. I've heard high & mid end amplifiers like Harmotech H4, Brax X4, Ground Zero Reference 4 & 4XS, Sinfoni, Genesis Series 3, Steg K series, Mosconi AS, DLS Ultimate, Mcintosh etc etc. And YES they are definitely better than the entry level amplifiers in terms of cleanliness/stability/continuos power/linearity etc etc... However, without good installation/tuning to maximise their full potential, they can sound worse than Audiobank/Mohawk amp powered system... And YES, I've also heard systems that sound powered by normal or shit amp...Give more credit to tuners rather than the brand of the equipment... we should... Just my 2cents... This post has been edited by LoewLim: Jan 16 2013, 11:03 AM |
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Jan 16 2013, 10:21 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Strongly agree  |
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Jan 16 2013, 06:25 PM
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[quote=garykam,Jan 16 2013, 10:21 AM]
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Strongly agree [/quote] Strongly agree too bro! One cannot replace a good tuner! I have a good tuner already. an I give him credit by not negotiating what he charges for worksmanship, as long it's within my budget =D He deserves every penny =D Ok, the any comments on the 250Wrms per channel Boston GT28 to power the Dyns passive? =D IMHO, it should work out =D |
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Jan 16 2013, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Jan 15 2013, 04:08 PM) The f6 is a great amp if u power entry level speakers haha The whole forum has spoken! =D But it's a no if u use the dynaudio 242 If u go the dynaudio 242 at least get a genesis series 3 stereo 100 of better DMX or sinfoni haha much better  Don't think i'll be using the PDX-F6 if i'm going for the Dyns =D But for any other, it should be ok |
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Jan 16 2013, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(LoewLim @ Jan 15 2013, 10:13 AM) Maybe you can try get other speakers which are easier to power. 150w x4 is plenty for most speakers. Thanks for the feedback! appreciate it! |
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Jan 16 2013, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(malutapimau @ Jan 15 2013, 02:35 PM) alpine f6 is a good amp, go for it That's what fueled me to choose this amp in the first place! class d amp is the way to go for ice big power yet small and lightweight (~3kg only) a class ab amp with same power probably weight 6-7kg we can put 4 pdx amps (like 2 pdx-f6 + 2 pdx-m12 under driver and fr passeger seat) i believe a good amp is a good amp regardless of amp class (d/a/ab/h etc) +1 Bro After taking in more comments, may be using another amp already, so much for compactness.... =D |
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Jan 16 2013, 06:34 PM
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Ok, the any comments on the 250Wrms per channel Boston GT28 to power the Dyns passive? =D
IMHO, it should work out =D |
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Jan 16 2013, 07:12 PM
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Numbers just doesn't work thy way la....
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Jan 16 2013, 07:25 PM
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how about 2x pdx-m12 to power the dyns passive
2x 1200w rms plenty of headroom (+9db) |
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Jan 16 2013, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(malutapimau @ Jan 16 2013, 07:25 PM) how about 2x pdx-m12 to power the dyns passive Yo those are monoblock amplifiers 2x 1200w rms plenty of headroom (+9db)  Good to power subwoofers but no no for component speakers lolz  Haha nice |
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Jan 16 2013, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(BelaCHAN @ Jan 16 2013, 06:34 PM) Ok, the any comments on the 250Wrms per channel Boston GT28 to power the Dyns passive? =D Bro genesis dual mono don't want?IMHO, it should work out =D Great for the dyns |
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Jan 16 2013, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(craziechild @ Jan 16 2013, 07:12 PM) Numbers just doesn't work thy way la.... I know, i know, numbers can't convey the quality of sound the amp produces.But I so want the dyns..... =D |
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