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post May 21 2013, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(airkuning @ May 16 2013, 01:51 PM)
So many solar system integrators nowaday in the market doing free house survey and consultation. I got 4 contractors quoting me before I installed to my house. Various solar panel materials display varying efficiencies and have varying costs; please do comparison before choosing one. Mine peace of mind deal  rclxms.gif Already collect $$$ from TNB for the last 3 months.
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care to share how much you invested? how many KW you installed? and how much you get monthly from TNB in average? We also want to install for 2 old aunts in penang.

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post Jun 3 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(100plus++ @ Jun 3 2013, 02:22 PM)
You just received your first payment yesterday? You got ask for the 2nd meter reading payment?
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post Jun 4 2013, 03:40 PM

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[quote=locke,Jan 10 2013, 12:20 AM]
I would like to introduce about Solar Power Feed in Tariff (FIT) . This is a new thing in Malaysia but already available some countries like German, Australia and western countries quite some time. Japan also just started not long ago.
1. What is Solar PV?
Basically it is a electrical/electronic system that produce electricity from Sun light that is installed on a building or on the ground.
PV stands for Photovoltaic. The term "photovoltaic" comes from the Greek φῶς (phōs) meaning "light", and from "Volt", the unit of electro-motive force, the volt. (Wikipedia).
2. What is a Feed in Tariff (FIT)?
Feed in Tariff is a special tariff rate that TNB would buy electricity from the Solar PV owner. The FIT rate for 2013 is around 4x of TNB residential Tariff rate, this means TNB is buying at a 4x tariff rate compare to the tariff rate that they are selling. The FIT is govern by Sustainable Energy Development Authority Malaysia. (SEDA)
3. How to apply for the Feed in Tariff?
Yoou could engage a SEDA/ISPQ qualified Solar System Integrator or service provider to apply for the Feed in Tariff.
4. Could i apply it myself?
Technically you could do so. Please visit the SEDA site (http://seda.gov.my/) there are tutorials and forms in the site that woud guide you for the application.
5. What is the duration of the Feed in Tariff?
The duration would be 21 years. Basically TNB would sign a contract with the FIT rate with the Solar PV owner for 21 years.
6. How do we see the money?
An additional PV meter (similiar to TNB meter) would be install to record down the electricity generated by the Solar PV system. TNB would pay you based on the unit (kWH) generated multiply by the Feed in Tariff Rate.
7. What is the ROI?
The ROI roughly would be ~12%-17%* *this an estimation only and depends on the solar pv location, geographical condition, design, and many other factors. Please consult your service provider/system integrator to provide the calculation.

8. How much do we earn actually?
We would earn around RM500-RM2000 passive income per month for typical house/shoplot Solar PV system.
Please visit the official government website http://seda.gov.my/ for more details.
Updates:

Solar PV FIT updates from 26th Feb briefing with SEDA at UNITEN:

For Individual applications:
- Maximum capacity per application: 12 kWp
- Maximum Feed In Application (FiA): 2 applications per individual
- Maximum total capacity per individual: 24 kWp
- Application charge: RM10 per kWp and minimum RM100
- Processing charge: RM100 (online), RM200 (manual)
- FiA Transfer charge: RM1000 ( sell property etc)
- FiA Transfer charge: RM200 (pass away)
- Feed in Applicant(FiA) and property owner can be different person (parents, siblings, children and etc)

For Company applications:
- Maximum capacity per company: 30 MWp
- Maximum capaciy per individual in company: 5MWp
- Announced 20 MWp quota for Solar PV system < 500kWp announced for end of Mar 2013
- For capacity > 24kWP, regessesion rate changed from -8% yearly to -20% yearly starting 2013
- Company need to have paid up capital of 20k for <24kWp and 50k for >24kWp

For Community applications:
- Proposal for community application for house of worship, hall, etc and max capacity 24kWp
I would update the post later with more details when there is more time.
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the hardware used in SOLAR PV FIT got any assigned standard or measurement by SEDA?
possible to do the installation by our own and just ask to install meter and tap to TNB part from you? if yes, how much?

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post Jun 4 2013, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(max shadow @ Jun 4 2013, 07:49 PM)
can u email (contack no) the best PI for me..just got one..tq sweat.gif
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any authorised integrator list?
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post Jun 4 2013, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Yes4G111 @ Jun 4 2013, 09:32 PM)
Must comply to TNB regulations.

If you can proceed the application job and installation job, u also can purchase the meter.
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licensed electrician can install the meter?
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post Jun 4 2013, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Yes4G111 @ Jun 4 2013, 10:27 PM)
now change the method already. TNB will bring the RE meter when doing T&C.

Your application must certified by ISPQ.
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you meant only the meter part or the whole system? notworthy.gif
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post Jun 5 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(locke @ Jun 5 2013, 11:27 AM)
Dear ectt,

The design of the Solar PV System requires approval from a Qualified Person (Person with a ISPQ/SEDA Certificate of Competency).
We will need FiA (Feed in Approval) from SEDA and REPPA (Renewable Energy Power Purchase Agreement) from TNB before the T&C (Testing and Commisioning).
The installation of the meter could be done by any certified electrician.
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You meant we cannot buy our own solar panel? notworthy.gif
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post Jun 6 2013, 03:01 PM

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[quote=locke,Jun 6 2013, 11:40 AM]
You could buy your own solar panel/equipment and install it yourself.

But if you want to connect to the TNB grid and sell electricity with the Feed in Tariff rate.

You will need the to go through the certification and application process through SEDA and TNB.
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so how much are the fee to get the certification and application process notworthy.gif
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post Jun 10 2013, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Justmua @ Jun 10 2013, 01:21 PM)
Hi,

For those of you who have invested in the solar equipments and all, please share with me some basic data. Say you invested in a 6kW system, how much power in KWh can you sell to TNB per month realistically? On average, how many hours of 'full' sunlight can we use in the payback calculation? Say assuming 5 hours per day of full sun power, so is it realistic to say I can generate 6 kW x 5 hours x 30 days = 900 kWh minimum?

Thank you for your kind sharing.
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same questions as you, free bump
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post Jun 10 2013, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Jun 10 2013, 08:18 PM)
Alliance Bank offers financing for solar panels.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4410&sec=nation

PUTRAJAYA: Those intending to cash in on renewable energy (RE) production using solar power may need to go through an open bidding process in future, if demand continues to outstrip the funds available, said Energy, Green Technology and Water Minister Datuk Seri Maximus J. Ongkili.

He said the response to the solar photovoltaic (PV) segment of the Government's Feed-in-Tariff (FiT) system - which pays consumers monthly for energy sent back into the national power grid - has been overwhelming since it was launched in 2011.

"Solar PV is very popular and this is very consistent with the strengths in Malaysia, which is blessed with plenty of solar energy.

"That part of the RE quota is over-subscribed and we must be more efficient in selecting future applications.

"We may look at an open-bidding system depending on the response (to the segment)," he said at the launch of Alliance Bank's Home Complete Plus Solar Panel Financing scheme at the Sustainable Energy Development Agency (Seda) office here Monday.
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can't believe they change so fast? can't imagine they start to look for excuses to limit green energy? sigh
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post Jun 16 2013, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(psthoo @ Jun 16 2013, 11:41 AM)
Does this work in rural area eg village?
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post Jun 20 2013, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Mrs7yengGuy @ Jun 20 2013, 10:12 AM)
On 25th June Tuesday next week, there will be a closed event about solar panel financing. The seats are limited. There will be two installers and the bank staffs to provide details about the financing and the solar panel. From this event, you will get a clear picture of the whole thing.

Date: 25/6/2013 - Tuesday
Time: 12-1pm - Lunch will be provided.
Registration starts at 11:30am.

If anyone of you who are interested to attend, please to pm me to reseave a slot for you smile.gif
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venue?
registration on site? or online?

where about? only held in one state or other states regularly?
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post Jun 20 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Mrs7yengGuy @ Jun 20 2013, 02:22 PM)
It is at Menara Multi Purpose KL. It's a private event where I get to invite some. So it would be only once.
If interested can just let me know or PM me for more details as I have only limited seats to be given out.
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private event? not run by bank?

ok, will pm you if possible to arrange go up, wont b in kl this period.
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post Jul 2 2013, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(arjunaidi @ Jul 2 2013, 04:21 PM)
My system integrator completed the 2.5kWp solar on my rooftop 41 days ago.  I have a lot of follow-up calls to both my SI and TNB to get a Testing & Commissioning date before my system is connected to the grid.

arjunaidi in Putrajaya
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how to arrange with SI and TNB? NOT SYSTEM INTEGRATOR DO for you?
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post Jul 2 2013, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(chingjuxiao @ Jul 2 2013, 06:35 PM)
Can we buy the panel from China and install ourself? or we must buy from the local vendor here and ask them to install?
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also want an answer clearly, bump notworthy.gif
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post Jul 10 2013, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(arjunaidi @ Jul 10 2013, 11:01 AM)
I kWh was consumed by appliances in my home.  It was a working day, only my fridge was on, plus some other appliances such as Astro, modem, PC, wireless IP camera, etc on standby mode.
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so you got battery pack installed and a device to switch between self use mode and tnb mode(in-grid mode)? thank you notworthy.gif
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post Jul 10 2013, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(avereng @ Jul 10 2013, 05:38 PM)
Bro, your house roof gradient is very high. Your PV system generation will be lower than others. Your Service Provider told u bout this concern before?
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there is app downloaded to know the optimised sunlight angle if not mistaken.

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post Jul 10 2013, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(arjunaidi @ Jul 10 2013, 06:43 PM)
yes, roof slope is 35 degrees.  My Service Provider briefed me on the limitations and I have done much research before investing in the system.

you can't see it in the photo.  partial shading at 6.15pm caused by neighbour's rooftop slows production but I am not overly worried by partial shading at this time when the sun is going to set anyway.

I am happy, on Day 2 , my PV generated 10kWh. that's 10 x 1.3708 = RM 13.708, all in a day's work  smile.gif
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you mentioned that you can tap the electricity from the solar panel directly use with your home appliance immediately, do you need to install battery to store the energy, or the system you installed allow you to use the solar energy directly without any extra energy storing device?

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post Jul 16 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Kasy @ Jul 16 2013, 02:40 PM)
My system was approved as integrated i.e. additional for use as building materials with bonus S02 for additional RM0.25.  The solar panel was installed over a steel structure like an awning covering the whole air well on top of the roof.  Now the COO said this system does not qualify for integrated because there is no activity under the panel.  There are no proper guidelines or terms and conditions which stipulates that there must be activity under the panel.  It is only after 6 months after having completed the system and waiting for payment that SEDA COO came out with the condition and told my contractor that the system does not qualify  for bonus S02 after having approved my application and sign the REPPA agreement with me.  If SEDA have informed me of the condition during my application then I would not have installed the panel and wasted almost RM50,000 of my hard earned money.  Now who is at fault, SEDA or contractor?  Why must I be penalized for their mistake?  The power generated have been feed to the grid for more than 6 months and I have not received a single cent.
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pity that your case went whirling

1)interested in knowing your installation, care to share some photos?

2) if it is not approved at the end, you may switch your system to off-grid usage.
go buy batteries and a controller(not sure the current one you installed)
tap the wires from PV to the controller, connect controller output to the battery bank. the controller will control the charging of the battery
battery energy will be used supply electricity to your home use when it is filled
or the controller will switch to tnb when it detects the battery is going run out of energy.

In that case, your installation will not be wasted.

btw, what is S02 bonus for extra RM0.25? want to install the system ourselves and just ask SI to certify and apply with TNB. We also want to know more the installation standard, requirement, etc.

thanks for sharing.
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post Jul 17 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(avereng @ Jul 17 2013, 09:42 AM)
Installation standard and requirement. Pls download "Renewable Energy (Technical and Operational Requirements) Rules 2011"
http://seda.gov.my/go-home.php?omaneg=0001...00000000&s=1207
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