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post Jul 23 2013, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(arjunaidi @ Jul 23 2013, 02:40 PM)
Celebrating my system's 100th kW production today, 14 days after commissioning on 09 July 2013.  My solar PV system is the second best investment after my house :-)
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care to show the brand and model no of your controller? the left hand one with yellow display.
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is that restricted to use that model only or we can just use other brand? any specification requirement?
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post Jul 24 2013, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 24 2013, 02:42 PM)
no probs, SI fast feedback biggrin.gif

OEM brand - REIN, imported from AU & Asia.
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any restriction or guidelines FiTT about which or what controller is able to use? notworthy.gif
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post Jul 29 2013, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(avereng @ Jul 29 2013, 01:43 PM)
I wonder where is the REIN panel and inverter come from?
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OEM from china.

if not mistaken,over 80% of Australia solar system related tools and instruments are OEM from China; if counted parts and components, over 95% are from China.

indeed, solar system knowledge and technologies are more well developed than western countries.

did ask some SI around but they refused to tell or share the controllers and inverters they adopted. if FiTT does not have any restriction or limitation on the use of controller and inverter, it is wise to buy our own

so any one who installed the PV and sell to tnb, please do show your controller, meter, inverter will be a good template to other here.

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post Jul 29 2013, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Jul 29 2013, 08:11 PM)
when your company start doing this?
if nope
this coming holiday hari raya  i going research all price and how implement.
if that price cheap, i will implement 1 ownself in my house
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we know that because we have friends in australia and we were there before. their new pm impose new policies on Carbon footprint. it could also affect or "guide" our politicians to "green" mode in buying electricity.

ask our bro to set up a company smile.gif
we only have some knowledge in electronics notworthy.gif
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post Jul 29 2013, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Jul 29 2013, 08:23 PM)
got any picture can share with me?  thumbup.gif

here i highlight i confuse can explain?
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/...2-1226678990206

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/...2-1226671097897
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post Jul 30 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(arjunaidi @ Jul 30 2013, 11:02 AM)
I saw this on SEDA website today.  I am seeking confirmation from SEDA that Solar PV quota for 2013 is finished.
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observed for a few times, that page seems suspicious. wonder they bridge the data feed directly to that portal in real time or not?

honestly, that yearly amount of SEDA offered don't show good intention to go "green"!


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post Jul 30 2013, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(avereng @ Jul 30 2013, 09:33 AM)
Kindly to remind. Even you can buy your own equipment, you still need ISPQ engineer and certified wireman to certify your design.
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the price is much cheaper if just need ISPQ engineer and certified wireman to certify! nod.gif
btw any list to show all the ISPQ engineers, where to find? or how to get this "title"

QUOTE(arjunaidi @ Jul 30 2013, 09:46 AM)
I am an engineer but for solar PV, I left it to SEDA approved service provider with ISPQ certified engineer.  A good ASP will take you through all the legal, technical and financial aspects of the installation.

I do not recommend the DIY approach.  The solar PV system is meant for service life of at least 2i years, so don't cut corners on equipment, design and expertise.

my 2 sen (carbon free) opinion.
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did consider these issues. it's the markup too much(personal view) smile.gif
basically the pv panel, manufacturers will offere at least 5 to 15 yrs guarantee, wouldn't expect those installers still in the biz or not sure they still in this field or not by then for us to claim the warranty.

current pv panel we adopted in malaysia are mainly the old one, new pv panel material is in transition without lossing price and efficiency.

QUOTE(juneww @ Jul 30 2013, 10:43 AM)
That's true. If you look for equipment and install youself, it might be a hard period while you need to claim warranty if something happen to your system.
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any ISPQ engineer and certified wireman here care to share what basic things need to note to fulfill? solar system accessories and equipment are not difficult to get nowadays. that will be good for all of us gather here to share rather than plainly making profit from here.

or we open a new thread to share and it will not hijack the topic.


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post Jul 31 2013, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(shHiew @ Jul 31 2013, 12:12 AM)
I applied 7 x 4kW systems for my friends and relatives. All system using Q-Cells Solar Panel, Q-Pro-G3 (3rd Generation Cells), Inverter from SMA (Sunny Boy 4000TL). Think these are really good stuffs. What do you mean Controller? Is it fuses, SPD and MCB?
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thank you so much for your sharing!

you mentioned that you applied for friends and relatives, how you did?

saw a system before which look like
1) solar pv
2) wire up to a controller which provides 2 ways control:
a) tap to an inverter to convert the DC to AC, then via a meter to measure the electricity sell to electricity power company (on-grid supply, sell to tnb and earn $$)
b) switch to charge up battery array, the battery array is connected to DC to AC inverter, and output to utilities usage (off-grid usage, power up home utilities with battery array)

we believe the 2)->a) is widely adopted in current SI
2)b) approach is for minimizing the reliability on the tnb supply. cons are battery array cost and aging concerns.

QUOTE(shHiew @ Jul 31 2013, 12:18 AM)
I think it feed directly to that portal in real time. Everytime I did a submission the figure still going down continuously, people are grabbing the quota. I still manage to grab one yesterday midnight when it left with 0.17MW, and in the morning I woke up, 0.00!!!! SEDA just to regulate the amount of money collected from the Renewable Energy Fund, hence, they have limited quota for whoever interested to participate, but they have to be careful not to approved over budget else, they don't have money to pay later.
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the data it revealed is "approved" usage or including the "pending" application? if it is the second one, then it is easy to jam a queue first and fulfill the the submission later, would it be in that way for the SI or some parties who occupied the quota first and then complete the submission later? or internal "loophole" existed to jump queue

any even distribution mechanism or is it a national-wide basis? e.g. SEDA offered 100MW but evenly spread to different states, or they don't care about the even distribution, they served first come first served basis whoever applies first despite of state-belonging.

the portal did not reveal the information and application in transparent way, it is still in "translucent" way.

thanks again for your sharing.


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post Jul 31 2013, 04:51 PM

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anyone here can share how to get the SI and ISPQ certificates, what processes? our brother is interested to take any exam for getting these title.

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post Jul 31 2013, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(silvere19 @ Jul 31 2013, 06:09 PM)
Putrajaya (Wednesday, 31st July 2013): In response to the individuals' demand for the FiT for solar PV, SEDA Malaysia will release another approximately 900 kW of solar PV quota for the individuals on Thursday, 1st August 2013 at 9:00 am. SEDA Malaysia will monitor the quota especially for the individuals on regular basis and release quota on the premise of RE Fund allocation.
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make it transparent will see more true quota

go green to earn the carbon footprint to trade is also good to govt, depending on how they value short and long benefit
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post Aug 7 2013, 11:51 PM

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btw, what if the house owner moves from one place to another place, then how about the solar system with TNB?

re-apply again or can still keep the registration and continue at new house during the contract period?
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post Aug 8 2013, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Aug 8 2013, 12:32 AM)
yeah this the main problem
unless they make moveable panel and simple wiring
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rewiring in new house is ok, but really cant accept if need to reapply and go through the whole process.

any SI here can answer this question?
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post Aug 13 2013, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 13 2013, 06:20 PM)
heheh  danke danke - hopefully lar.
anyhow, it's hitting my average expected, thus my returns should be as expected as well. anything above that is cream tongue.gif

to clarify, that 2.976kWh/kWp is AVERAGE to-date
peak - max hit 16kWh exported per day on a 4kWp system, thus max 4kWh/kWp but... me being realistic, take average to-date  sweat.gif
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usually inverter dissipated how much power?

standard how much?
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post Sep 1 2013, 09:26 PM

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how about move house to new location in the future, need to reapply again as new applicant? if no, need to certified again after install to new house location in future?

also 1% of SEDA can work out, really doubt it is a gesture to continue the further implementation or not, they can just make cancel it and not mind to compensate little money according to the style politicians run many projects experience.


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post Sep 2 2013, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Sep 2 2013, 04:09 PM)
The guy who spoke to me told me the contract is signed between the owner of the premises.. So if my parent moves out or sells the house in future...all $$ goes to the new owner.  His ''advice'' is to factor in the future revenue and whatever cost that needs to be recoup into the house asking price!  blink.gif
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you mean now we install the solar panel and signed the contract with tnb at this property, later we move out to new place we cannot migrate these contract to the new property? if yes, really have to HOLD BACK!

1% of the contribution to energy feed is obviously just a symbol to tell the world they have done something but not guarantee will move on the scheme!

if switch the on-grid solar system to off-grid system, the batteries cost and maintenance cost(usually 2-4 yrs need to replace new batteries) are not cheap and may not be worth in economic sense unless for special needs/reasons.

1% energy contribution will not brew this industry sustainable, but their SEDA training / certificates programs charged quite ridiculously high, are they just doing a show to the public govt touched "green energy" already, enough? hmm.gif


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post Sep 2 2013, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 2 2013, 04:20 PM)
number2 is correct. pv is one of the way to increase the value of the house
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thin-film pv is more suitable
but pricy

anyone wants to make pv panel? we are thinking to DIY thumbup.gif

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post Sep 2 2013, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 2 2013, 10:24 PM)
thinfilm is for those with large roof. price of tf is cheaper but less efficient. if small roof, then have to use mono.

efficiency
mono>poly>thinfilm

price
mono>poly>thinfilm
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new thin film design adopted in china massive scale pv energy generation are higher efficiency then traditional one.


price is not sure but lower down much than before. very flexible for building integration or decoration purpose.


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post Sep 2 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 2 2013, 11:04 PM)
the best stuff are still from our backyard - first solar, auosunpower, and panels from malaysiansolar

getting stuff from china is a gamble.
usual problem would be, what if 1 cell/section die off. you wont be able to get a replacement (chap lap d?)
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if not mistaken, over 80% of stock are from china.


broken cell can also be used to generate energy, very cheap too. good to have fun.

cell broken is easy to replace as long as you can open the panel and solder it back.


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post Sep 2 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 2 2013, 11:17 PM)
open panel? means water ingress.
change cell means you will have different voltage across the string. leading to hotspots and even cracks (just like mixing zinc and alcaline battery)
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post Sep 13 2013, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Sep 13 2013, 05:24 PM)
I guess the main concern is how credible is the 20% reduction of efficiency as claimed? Is it based on our Malaysia climate?

As I know different vendor has different grade of solar panels. Furthermore, solar panels are not efficient when the temperature is high even we have sunlight year long.
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not mentioned 20 yrs, are we sure the manufacturer or the system installer business still operated within 10 yrs? where to claim the warranty by then if they close their business? hmm.gif



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