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post Nov 7 2013, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(avereng @ Nov 2 2013, 11:16 AM)
From my experience, getting 100% in Malaysia is possible. One of my string has 3.89kW and has produce till 3.99kW during one weekend. 3.99kW is my inverter max output and gave "max output limit" notification on display panel. 
From day to day observation, daily peak generation can hit 80-90% of rated capacity during fine weather.
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QUOTE(andrewsh @ Nov 2 2013, 01:13 PM)
This is certainly a good sign for us in Malaysia where our system is able to perform greater than rated value.  I believe this is with the combination of higher efficiency system and stronger sun energy we have in Malaysia.

Based on my system performance I managed to get from 89% - 110% of the rated output. 
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Just curious how can you get more than 100% rated output. Most of the panel have temperature coefficient of more than .40%/C unless you are using panasonic HIT or Sunpower, and with this temperature coefficient and how high the temperature can go up in Malaysia, it will cause the performance to drop at least 15%. After adding the cabling lost, inverter lost, dirt and etc, the efficiency can down below 80%. My understanding is we can choose a inverter that have lower KW than the panel's total KW. I am confuse now.

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post Nov 8 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(avereng @ Nov 7 2013, 10:50 PM)
You asked some good questions. My system clearly showed brand of panel and marketing claims are not critical. Solar panel capacity is rated by STC but this does not mean actual Malaysia condition always below Standard Testing Conditions. 

My system operated for 11 months. IMHO, system output (kW) is not my concern. It is the total daily generation which matter. My best daily performance is 5.2+kWh/kWp. On the best performance day, the max output is around 80% of rated output. The main reason for high daily generation is CLEAR SKY with no cloud. Our biggest concerns are CLOUD and RAIN.

My inverters have lower capacity than panels capacity. They are working well. Using lower capacity inverters means the inverters can always operate at high efficiency range. Most inverters high efficiency operating range is above 80% load. However, IMHO, don't undersize the inverter more than 10%. This is up to owner and installer choice.
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I assumed you dont get 5.2+kwh/kwp everyday? What is your monthly kwh/kwp? From what i seem, most service provider only suggest 3.2-3.6kwh/kwp for their system.

QUOTE(andrewsh @ Nov 7 2013, 09:13 PM)
You are right that the type of panel we use and temperature of the day do affect the overall efficiency.  In fact I am using Sunpower panel for my system and I am happy with the performance so far. 
Based on the short 21 days since commissioning, my system achieved two highest performance under 2 conditions.

1. 5.44kWh/kWp with peak output at 110% of the rated output under partly cloudy day, not very hot day.
2. 5.40kWh/kWp with peak output at 87% of the rated output under hot day.
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Do you mind to share your average kwh/kwp for the 21 day so that i can have a idea of how good sunpower panel perform.

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post Nov 8 2013, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(kd8800 @ Nov 8 2013, 02:57 PM)
Hi,
i m new here.  i m from Kedah. My best daily performance is 6+kWh/kWp ( just for 2 day only). My 11.25 kw system T & C at Dec 2012. The average performance until now is 4.2kwh/kwp. (i don know how to calculate the out put rate, nor don understand what is kVar or exp kWh. because my KACO inverter just show simple number at the small LED screen, i have to press a button each time to read something that i don't know. I just know to divide the total TNB meter reading by day, then by 11.25, and get the average performance, am i right?). i use German Qcell solar panel.
My second 12kw system had just complete install and waiting for TNB T & C metering. This time I use Korean Hanwa(Made in China) solar panel and German KACO inverter. And in future i m planing to install my 3rd system with China brand solar panel with German KACO inverter. At that time, sure we will know the performance of each of the solar system, but still depand on the position of facing of the solar to the sun.
I had install a speed dome CCTV on top of the roof. in future i will update d CCTV net work system and you all can see live of my solar. u even can zoom and pan tilt go left right up down. smile.gif .
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6kwh/kwp is awesome! i think penang and kedah get more sunlight and also i notice your roof top is flat and hence can have ideal angle for the panel. i think that contribute to the result as well.
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post Nov 10 2013, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(andrewsh @ Nov 9 2013, 06:28 PM)
I agree the nature of the roof top plays a big part in the system performance.  From the camera, I believe you do not have any shading problem and all of you panels start working as soon as there is sun.  Not like most of us where we do not have ideal roof condition where shading is one of the biggest negative factor.  For my case, only 60% of my panels are exposed to full sunlight in the morning.  Overall my system only have full sunlight exposure(no shading) from around 11am - 4pm.  Beyond this timing, the system is not operating at full speed.
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how to determine if all panel can receive full sunlight? is your roof not facing north-south? i am assuming north-south position can receive all sun light and have no shading
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post Nov 10 2013, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(andrewsh @ Nov 10 2013, 07:24 PM)
My roof facing east and west and the roof having air well structure blocking some of the panels facing west in the morning.  The west facing string is not able to perform due to shading in the morning.
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with such condition, very surprise that your panel still can perform so well. sunpower is really a good pianel. can you pm me your installer might want to get an quotation from him for my roof
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post Nov 13 2013, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Solar freak @ Nov 13 2013, 04:08 PM)
I'm thinking to clean the Panel with water spray.With this activity can improve the productivity by how much Percentage ?
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I am similar plan. Let me know if you do proceed with it.
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post Nov 14 2013, 07:41 PM

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For a 12KW system, 4.5kw on front and 7.5kw at the back, what is the most suitable inverter for it? Either a single phase and utilize all 2 string in each inverter or a 3phase inverter. I am considering aurora.
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post Nov 15 2013, 02:15 PM

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If using 2 inverter, how many string is the best configuration? 3 string? For two 6k inverter, two string for the 7.5k and one for the 4.5k?

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post Dec 16 2013, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(kd8800 @ Dec 16 2013, 09:08 PM)
My 1st system T&C at DEC 2012 used both German brand panel & inverter cost me RM12,000 per KW (maybe is higher but reasonable at that time).

This year, my 2nd system used Korean panel & German Inverter (which has completed installation last 2 month and still waiting for T&C right now vmad.gif ) cost me RM9,000 per KW. Vendor quote me RM10,000 per KW if I use both German panel & inverter.

I'm considering to install 3rd system in 2014, vendor quote me and my friend RM10.00-8% (RM9,200) per KW, if I use both German panel & inverter.
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It is also due to the fact that you are installing 12KW. Higher kw will lower down the cost per kw smile.gif
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post Dec 21 2013, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(ls71 @ Dec 20 2013, 04:28 PM)
Hi all Sifus,

Would like to post a question here .

Just noted if we are using local assembled solar panel, an additional rate of 3 cts per KW is entitled.

Would like to get a feedback / view on the the Q-cell solar panel which is manufactured in Malaysia with technology from Germany.

My initiate research on the net shown Q-cell is one the top brand for solar panel. Is this the case?

And how it is compared to Panasonic / BYD / Hanwha or any other solar panel?

Also appreciate feedback from forumers who has installed this Q-cell solar panel ...
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q-cell is a good choice. i researched a lot of brands and providers(really!) and come to that conclusion as well. If you are interest on the contact of contractor, pm me.
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post Dec 21 2013, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(arjunaidi @ Dec 21 2013, 11:17 PM)
I think most reputable solar panels on the market are OK.  the trick is to coax the maximum solar power generation from the panels.  this is achieved by efficient inverter and good system design and quality installation job.

i am a delighted customer of my SI :-)
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you are very right. Most reputable solar panels on the market are OK. biggrin.gif I decided to go with one of the supplier after a lot of consideration of panel, inverter and the design that they offered and i think i made a good choice. I just want to help those are looking for one. Of course there are a lot of good supplier out there as well. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 24 2013, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(andrewsh @ Dec 22 2013, 12:22 AM)
What type of system configuration(panel type and inverter) you are going to use?
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q-cell with aurora inverter smile.gif
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post Jan 8 2014, 08:38 AM

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the cheapest i saw is less than 8k per KW but the panel is from china la. However nowadays china brand also very reliable.
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post Mar 24 2014, 12:29 PM

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anyone have any ideas what are the inverter that are malaysia assembled
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post May 4 2014, 06:32 PM

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anyone know when the quota will release?
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post May 21 2014, 02:50 PM

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anyone know what happen to seda? this is the 2rd time they postponing right?
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post May 30 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(ectt @ May 29 2014, 04:48 PM)
SEDA may change the system

they know the UNFAIR system previously, who submitted earlier on the date of release quota who would get the quota.
this allows speculation and SP jammed the lines to submit application.

do suspect SEDA may be suspended this project earlier if the current TNB popping more tariff on normal consumers.

anyway, 3 yrs later, new battery will be cheap, safer and more efficient, off-grid may be a big issue to TNB monopoly role. perhaps TNB should announce more strict rules to protect themselves in energy supply role. e.g. generating solar energy and store in battery to use is ILLEGAL! rclxms.gif

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how do you know battery will be cheap in 3 years time?
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post Jun 6 2014, 01:55 PM

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anyone here using malaysia solar resources panel?
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post Dec 31 2014, 10:24 AM

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anyone know how to check tnb payment online and also change the mailing address of monthly bill? I am not staying at the hosue that the panels installed
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post Jan 8 2015, 03:06 PM

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how about changing the billing address for FIT?

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