yes, that's my problem now. To renovate my house, I've hired an architect to draw my subsale house in Cheras, of course the house does not comes with any plan, I've only plan to extend my porch and the architect has drawn up all the plan to be submitted to MPKJ but the measurement on the plan is all inaccurate, like the width of my living hall, bedroom etc, the porch measurement is correct though!

I've paid him the fees just to know all the above but he claim that he only provide some reference and his plan does not provide accurate measurement, mpkj won't check the house plan they just want to know the porch that I am building, he said.

Question: can I ask the architect to redo the plan or "sue" him is you does not?

As per my understanding:

1. You want to extend your car porch.
2. You hired an architect to draw the floor plan.
3. You submitted the floor plan to MPKJ.
4. You find that the measurements other than the car porch is incorrect.

Question to you:
1. Has MPKJ approved your renovation works?
2. Is it a request by MPKJ that the floor plan must be accurate for the entire house?

Not sure how much you'd paid to the architect but it sure gonna be a lot of work to measure your whole house compared to measuring just the car porch.

I don't see the problem.

If you are only doing your porch, the dimensions of the rest of the house are not important.
Unless you have the old plans of the house, the architect has to take measurement of every room in the house and do accurate drawings based on the measurement. Does your fee cover the extra work?

The authority is only interested in the size of the porch and the distance to the fence.

No prob at all, the contractor only interested in the new works, same also for the authority...usually architect draw the existing one for ref only, based on snp dwg....what you are requesting are measured drawings, which is i think has a different fees..

mind to disclose the amount of fees u paid

Yalo.. u paid the architect for car porch renovation, so what he draw is sufficient for municipal approval. And mpkj approved right? Whats the problem. U dont try to tekan the architect to draw all everything when actually what you need was the drawing for carporch reno only..
May share wih us how much u paid?

Well, I am stuck, can i make the question clear?

Just wandering, you pay architect, is to make an accurate floor plan (design) for your house renovation? or the fee you pay is actually need that plan to apply permit? If apply permit is correct, then once you get your permit, due is done, correct or not that is the only problem between your contractor and you.

Here comes the answer:
yes, I've hired the architect just for the car porch and actually kitchen extension, but I was also hopping to get the real measurement of the house plan since he said he need to draw it as well as a requirement for mpkj.

I need the house plan to buy tiles and other planning. The architect fees is rm1900 for my 2xstorey 20x70 terrace.

Basing on the all the feedback, it looks like I should be getting a fair deal although most of the house plan is incorrect!

for rm1900 u want the world ah

rm1900 is super cheap price lo.. mine is double yours but of course mine is way more extensive reno compared to yours

This post has been edited by ~Battousai~: Jan 10 2013, 12:13 AM

1900 is very goooooooood deal for internal measurement and drawing, DIY lor, measure and use google sketch

Is he certified architect with title? you can bring him to with regard of the contract law & construction law.

I made a very detail accurate drawing to scale for my house before and after renovation. Accurate until I can use it to buy furniture and know how many feet / inches left after furniture is placed. I pass that information to the architect for processing the permit.

He charge me in total with "tong" deposit about 4k+, he never bring any measurement tools. If you need exact measurement got to pay more and you may need to get M&E Engineer for that.

My renovation drawing signed by Architect who never come to my house. The draftsman draw the plan by taking few pictures of my house and some feedback of what and how I want to renovate. No measurement tape, just camera, pen and note book.

Few days later, he came out with the extention drawing. Some very basic measurement for submission.
Two days later, came back with approval letter from Mpkj. Fees, RM2500.

All I need is the approval letter.

In this case, i personal think is the plan with not accurate measurement is accepted, becoz the main purpose is to apply permit, if really need very accurate floor plan to renovate and buy furniture, i guess the drawing should come out from contractor or ID is for batter refer.

Actually the renovation for the porch is also very simple just put up a piece of roof to cover my porch that's it and for my kitchen extension it has already been done but since my former owner did not apply for permit the architect just draw up and send it for approval in 1 shot.
So to me he is doing some very simple job, I did not know architect fee is so easy to come by.

That guy studied for 5 years for his degree. He can be sued if your car porch falls on your head. Worse, the kitchen too. I think you already got a good deal, he do something illegal for you too.You should thank him. Your kitchen is an illegal structure, he is getting that resolved for you.
For $1900, you are getting a very good deal. If you want your other rooms measured and drawn with accurate measurements, you need to pay more.

This post has been edited by jojozep: Jan 10 2013, 10:58 AM

Don't think the reno plan is done by an architect. Most probably a registered draughtsman.
I would have done the same if you asked me to do the job.

if u think the job is easy why dont u do it your self? rm1900 is inclusive all the authority fees? u can asked for the receipt from the architect. usually that will go around 1k plus...he only got less than 1k for plans, transportation and lifetime warranty, if anything happens to your carporch...

fair deal lah ..... with cop and signature woh .....