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post Dec 11 2013, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 11 2013, 09:06 PM)
Gark, just talk 3 talk 4...

Your points are indeed valid...
except for the first paragraph....
A good market player will always be a good market player.
To claim that one learned person will be better than others is simply bullocks for me.
LOL!

I had serious laughter earlier. tongue.gif

Btw, just sharing... not saying u, since I do believe you are good.  biggrin.gif

However...
MoS .... three quite dangerous words in the market.
Many a times, they are used like roti canai....

People buy...
They buy this..
They buy that...
Yah.. yah... MoS there...
very safe...
PE of 2 only.....

And guess what stocks the refer to? China stocks!  doh.gif

Heard once...
One declared his MoS of buying Parkson Holdings was cos of Tan Teng Boo.
He big investor in it.  doh.gif

Then the Robert Kuok MoS factor when Transmile was exploding from its accounting fraud.
Robert Kuok very rich man, sure no let Transmile die one.
That was their MoS. doh.gif

Hehe...
so I am not impressed with MoS hor...
It's like a gold club pass for them to buy stocks.

Hehe... failures... plenty I saw.

It's like traders.
They think buying on supports is good strategy.
Better see if they see the stock hitting that twice before and twice also no problem.
That's their equivalent of MoS.

So do forgive me....
I am not so impressed ..... tongue.gif
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I think the kind of mos you refering to is not actually mos... they are just rumors... blind faith or they have not strached the surface hard enough.

Real mos is much different, its about putting the winning odds in your favor. I believe you are secretly practicing it as well.... whistling.gif margin of safety is by using dcf to estimate cash flow, future growth and compare it to the price. If the computed intrinsic value is higher then it have mos. But then again estimating future growth is always the hard part.... wink.gif

You dont have to swing at every ball that comes your way, but if one of these rare balls favourable comes your way, by all means swing it out for a homerun.

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post Dec 11 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(gspirit01 @ Dec 11 2013, 10:31 PM)
I know what u meant by mos perfectly well. That is y i ask u whether u r trader or investor. For trader, what mos r u talking abt ? U hv to act fast. If u want to be safe, then u hv to be investor. Swing on selected counter and selected time after careful analysis and mos.  it could be once every few yr ? That y i said investment can't make fast and big money.
U thought mos is easy ? Then everybody would hv backed up the truck on public bank during the last crisis. How sure can u be that public bank won't sink together with the other counters when even the whole country economy may be collapsing.
Buying a dollar with 50 sens is logically true. Doing it can be another story. Allthe best brains are in financial world.
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Haha investor cannot make big money but trader can?

All the best brain is in fanancial world?

Whats makes you think there are no people that made loads of money on the last crisis? rolleyes.gif

All it take guts and common sense, if you think you cannot do it does not means others cant as well. I made my best money during the 2008/2009 financial crisis.... yawn.gif

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post Dec 12 2013, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(gspirit01 @ Dec 11 2013, 11:04 PM)
Best money ? Millions ? That is what i call best money. If u do, salute to u.

I do know people making more than 10 millions from the last crisis.  He put his whole assets and borrowed to the max to do it.  That is y i said i can't do it.  Can u ?

True nature only comes out when the stake is high.
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Hahaha ok, so traders can make millions but investors cant? Have to make 10 million before can be called sucessful...How naive. Wasting breath arguing with you.

Good luck with your logic... you are going to be malaysia next top 10 richest person liao.... laugh.gif

Oh make sure you max out your margin yah on your next trade...borrow everything to the hilt, and remember to remortgage everything.... and bet it all! rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 12 2013, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 12 2013, 02:47 PM)
*peep left....peep right*
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JSX more exciting.. one day up 40 points, next day drop 40 points.. rclxms.gif
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post Dec 12 2013, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 12 2013, 04:21 PM)
laugh.gif

I not smart playing wild kowboi market like this.
Ini har got exciting maaa...
Mother In S&S also exciting maaaaaa...
chart looks good..... tongue.gif

You still no tell how much you think FV of this.
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That day got look see look see a bit.. so many small small business.. rclxub.gif

Need time to see properly... wink.gif
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post Dec 12 2013, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 12 2013, 04:21 PM)
laugh.gif

I not smart playing wild kowboi market like this.
Ini har got exciting maaa...
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Haha.. there is where opportunity comes 1 mah.. last time got straight drop 100 points also... sweat.gif

I still keeping ini mari.. still undervalue.. thumbup.gif

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post Dec 12 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Dec 12 2013, 05:22 PM)
u trade on your own account...

why need require? lol
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require $$$$ lah... no $$$$ how to play.. think play 50 sen one 1 game meh. laugh.gif
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post Dec 12 2013, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 12 2013, 05:04 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Still keeping meh?

I thought you dah cabut kuat kuat.  tongue.gif
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Waiting to realized the max value mah... now already 2 bagger. rclxms.gif

Isn't it someone say one.. the money is in the wait? whistling.gif

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post Dec 12 2013, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Dec 12 2013, 05:46 PM)
Guys, just started to read up things regarding stocks. Bursa Malaysia, some books and papers, get myself readily with some cash and want to start to learn about stocks. So, any advice for newbs? biggrin.gif
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1st talk to keuyteowlou to open CDS account....
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post Dec 12 2013, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Dec 12 2013, 05:53 PM)
sounds fun.  brows.gif
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when you make your first $$$, it is more fun than any video games you ever played... brows.gif
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post Dec 12 2013, 06:05 PM

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... whistling.gif

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post Dec 12 2013, 06:35 PM

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JSX drop 60 points today... rclxms.gif

Time for rabbit hunting... wink.gif
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post Dec 12 2013, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Poison-artz @ Dec 12 2013, 06:40 PM)
bank account?
bursa acc?
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You only need CDS account from IB to start trade.. no need anything else. wink.gif
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post Dec 12 2013, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Poison-artz @ Dec 12 2013, 06:45 PM)
ib?
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Investment bank....
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post Dec 12 2013, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Dec 12 2013, 06:44 PM)
haha, I'm not trying to look for fast money over here but rather, want to learn as much as possible. Saw some of my friends get that tensed because of stocks and forex. Jeez, I don't want to be them. So, any place for me to learn or you want to give me personal tutorial?  brows.gif
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Many place to learn.. here super sifu is Boon3.. he will help you make lots of $$$$.. LOL
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post Dec 12 2013, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Dec 12 2013, 06:51 PM)
LOL, don't dim me ho lan leh~  tongue.gif

Everyone here s sifu!  thumbup.gif

Clear the water in the cup and learn something from zero! laugh.gif
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want to play the game.. first get your cds account.. then only ready to play. wink.gif

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post Dec 12 2013, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Dec 12 2013, 06:55 PM)
Of course, already PMed kueyteowlou on this.  brows.gif

In fact, I've been looking around bursamalaysia for the brokers' list.  brows.gif
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here is complete list...

http://klse.i3investor.com/jsp/hti/brokers.jsp

But KTL's one is cheapest.. tongue.gif
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post Dec 12 2013, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Dec 12 2013, 07:00 PM)
Noobly asking, which one is KTL's?  sweat.gif

lai lai, tunjuk ajar.  brows.gif
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kueh teow lou.. LOL

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post Dec 12 2013, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Dec 12 2013, 07:10 PM)
LOL, what an abbreviation.

hey, you haven't tunjuk ajar leh, teach newbs mah.  tongue.gif
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how to tunjuk ajar.....? You follow the discussion on this thread, do some paper trading (ie simulated trading - no money involved) until you confident enough to trade for real, then go for it.

No fast and easy way.. LOL
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post Dec 12 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 12 2013, 10:22 PM)
Waittt..... need to correct you la.... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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You got lots of tou dai waiting for you...

Mana tipsy? laugh.gif

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