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post Feb 19 2013, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(liangshu17 @ Feb 19 2013, 01:56 PM)
hello may i know the differences between XPS13 and Latitude 6430u ? I cant seem to see the price in their website for 256GB, i7 processor, any comment on the budgetary price for both models?
this is for business purpose.. thx
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[Ultrabook] XPS13, i5-3337U + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD@RM3399[1.36kg], 4GB, W8, backlit
[Ultrabook] XPS13, i5-3337U + Intel HD4000 + 256GB SSD + (1920x1080)@RM4299[1.36kg], 8GB, W8, backlit
[Ultrabook] XPS13, i7-3517U + Intel HD4000 + 256GB SSD+ (1920x1080)@RM4599[1.36kg], 8GB, W8, backlit

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Dell [Ultrabook] Latitude E6430u, i5-3427U + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD@RM4500, 4GB, W8Pro, 3 years Pro support; [CPU options: i5-3427U - i7-3667U]

The XPS 13 is 13" in size whereas the 6430u is 14" in size.
Dell has disallowed regular users to easily obtain the prices for business units, so we do not have the most updated pricings, sorry about that.
But based on what we originally (and last) have, the E6430u is not cheap at all, which is pretty normal for a business-line notebooks laugh.gif

But since the XPS 13 is an awesome (and not to mentioned good looking) premium-line ultrabook, you can consider getting one over the Latitude as well, with enough money to extend warranty to 3 years, making it comparable to the E6430u which also comes wtih 3 years warranty as standard.
For the XPS13, the i5 + FUllHD variant would be more than enough, don't really need an i7 as it will get quite warm, regardless of which ultrabook you buy icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 19 2013, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Feb 19 2013, 10:15 AM)
Do note that RS-11 is only 11.6" smile.gif
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yup, realise that. can you suggest other brand of laptop that is equal (plus/ minus) to illegear RS-11 smile.gif
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post Feb 19 2013, 02:53 PM

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1. Preferred Brand:anything that is good
2. Budget:RM2k-2.3k
3. Usage:normal gaming as dota and microsoft usage(for girl usage as a F6 students)
4. Preferred laptop/screen size:none
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post Feb 19 2013, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(JeffChong @ Feb 19 2013, 02:53 PM)
1. Preferred Brand:anything that is good
2. Budget:RM2k-2.3k
3. Usage:normal gaming as dota and microsoft usage(for girl usage as a F6 students)
4. Preferred laptop/screen size:none
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Can consider the following 14" ultrabooks brows.gif
14"
Asus [Ultrabook]S46CM-WX023V, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT635M + 24GB mSATA + 500GB HDD@RM2399[2kg], 4GB, W7HP
Dell [Ultrabook]Inspiron 14z, i3-3217U + AMD HD7570M + 32GB mSATA + 500GB(5400rpm)@RM2099[1.87kg], 4GB, W7HB/W8, *no VGA port, OD
HP [Ultrabook] Envy4-1204TX, i5-3317U + AMD HD8750M@RM2399[Beats][1.75kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8
Lenovo [Ultrabook]S400, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + 24GB mSATA + 500GB(5400rpm)@RM1999[1.8kg], 4GB, W7HB; AMD HD7450M/W8@RM2199

Personally I'd go for the RM1999 variant of the Lenovo S400, and using the remaining money for warranty extension to 3 years icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(liangshu17 @ Feb 19 2013, 01:56 PM)
hello may i know the differences between XPS13 and Latitude 6430u ? I cant seem to see the price in their website for 256GB, i7 processor, any comment on the budgetary price for both models?
this is for business purpose.. thx
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Feb 19 2013, 02:48 PM)
13"
Dell
[Ultrabook] XPS13, i5-3337U + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD@RM3399[1.36kg], 4GB, W8, backlit
[Ultrabook] XPS13, i5-3337U + Intel HD4000 + 256GB SSD + (1920x1080)@RM4299[1.36kg], 8GB, W8, backlit
[Ultrabook] XPS13, i7-3517U + Intel HD4000 + 256GB SSD+ (1920x1080)@RM4599[1.36kg], 8GB, W8, backlit

14"
Dell [Ultrabook] Latitude E6430u, i5-3427U + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD@RM4500, 4GB, W8Pro, 3 years Pro support; [CPU options: i5-3427U - i7-3667U]

The XPS 13 is 13" in size whereas the 6430u is 14" in size.
Dell has disallowed regular users to easily obtain the prices for business units, so we do not have the most updated pricings, sorry about that.
But based on what we originally (and last) have, the E6430u is not cheap at all, which is pretty normal for a business-line notebooks laugh.gif

But since the XPS 13 is an awesome (and not to mentioned good looking) premium-line ultrabook, you can consider getting one over the Latitude as well, with enough money to extend warranty to 3 years, making it comparable to the E6430u which also comes wtih 3 years warranty as standard.
For the XPS13, the i5 + FUllHD variant would be more than enough, don't really need an i7 as it will get quite warm, regardless of which ultrabook you buy  icon_rolleyes.gif
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XPS13 is top notch thumbup.gif
But Latitude 6430u has a few tricks up its sleeve:
Matte screen. LAN, VGA, HDMI port if you ever need it laugh.gif Can expand RAM more easily. Can opt for HD+ screen.
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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Feb 19 2013, 05:36 PM)
XPS13 is top notch  thumbup.gif
But Latitude 6430u has a few tricks up its sleeve:
Matte screen. LAN, VGA, HDMI port if you ever need it laugh.gif Can expand RAM more easily. Can opt for HD+ screen.
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I still feel the Full HD variants are too damn expensive for the XPS 13 sad.gif
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QUOTE(greed road @ Feb 19 2013, 02:50 PM)
yup, realise that. can you suggest other brand of laptop that is equal (plus/ minus) to illegear RS-11  smile.gif
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Nope laugh.gif
Not joking, there is no other laptop under 12.5" with that kind of raw power.
13" closest
Vaio SVS13125CV, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M LE@RM3099[1.72kg], 4GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W8; colors: maroon/white/black/pink; Vaio carrying case (but still rather weak)

14"
Alienware M14x R2, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT650M (1GB) + (1600x900)@RM3999[2.92kg][Klipsch], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm); [CPU Options: i7-3630QM - i7-3840QM], W8, 2 years warranty
Y400, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799, 4GB, 500GB, W8, 120wPSU, swappable ODD
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Brand
- does not matter
Budget
- anything as long as its good price for the performance.
- ideally 2-3k. but maximum 4k if its a good deal.
Usage
- Gaming.
- ideally anything with a class I graphic card or the upper limit of class II.
- (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html)
Size
- 14" or 15"
Preference
- it is better if it doesnt come with Windows. i shouldnt be paying ~rm200 for something i don even need.

I ve been searching for a new laptop, mainly to game with friend during lan party. i saw a few recommended Y480 (DOS version) but its no longer available. i was hoping for something similar to that where i have the best performance for the money spent.


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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Feb 19 2013, 07:01 PM)
Brand
- does not matter
Budget
- anything as long as its good price for the performance.
- ideally 2-3k. but maximum 4k if its a good deal.
Usage
- Gaming.
- ideally anything with a class I graphic card or the upper limit of class II.
- (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html)
Size
- 14" or 15"
Preference
- it is better if it doesnt come with Windows. i shouldnt be paying ~rm200 for something i don even need.

I ve been searching for a new laptop, mainly to game with friend during lan party. i saw a few recommended Y480 (DOS version) but its no longer available. i was hoping for something similar to that where i have the best performance for the money spent.
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The best two performers for the price are still from Lenovo:
14"
Lenovo Y400, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799, 4GB, 500GB, W8, 120wPSU, swappable ODD

15.6"
Lenovo Ideapad Y500, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M + (1920x1080)@RM3799, 4GB, 500GB, W8; GN36 exGPU, 120W & 170W AC adapter

The Y500 comes with an ultrabay which allows the additional slot-in of a secondary GPU (which comes with the notebook), providing gaming performance, if optimized, up to the level of a GTX670M
Most higher end notebooks come with Operating systems though
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Hi guys. Need recommendation. Old laptop spoiled so need to buy one asap.
1. Preferred Brand And Form Factor
Any but Acer , light( around 2kg so easier to carry around) , considering ultrabook-like laptop but not sure if it suits my usage
2. Budget
2000-2600
3. Usage
Normal internet surfing(but will open up to 10-15 Google Chrome tabs at one time) , gaming ( can run Dota 2 enough d) , play HD movies, will be used for long hours so have to be durable
4. Preferred laptop/screen size
13-14''

Do you guys think SSD is necessary to be one form of consideration? Any advise? Thanks smile.gif

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Feb 19 2013, 10:36 AM)
https://help.ea.com/article/simcity-system-requirements
Look at the system requirement on SimCity 2013.
On PC:
"nVidia 7800 or better, an AMD chipset of at least an ATI Radeon HD 2x00 or better, or an Intel Series 4 integrated graphics or better"
Confused? Don't worry. If you pay attention and look at MacOS section, you will see:
"Players will need at least an nVidia 9400M or Intel HD3000"

So anything with Intel HD4000 will handle SimCity 2013 easily smile.gif

Dell
Inspiron 14-3421, i3-3217U + Intel HD4000@RM1399[1.99kg], Win8SL, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), 4-cell (come with W8)

Lenovo
G480, i3-3110M + Nvidia GT635M@RM1499, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), FreeDOS (a bit of overkill laugh.gif Need to get W8 yourself)

Prices are RSP, negotiable (a bit).
Please note the suggestion is based on system requirement provided by EA sweat.gif Btw, if you know anyone who has a laptop with Intel HD4000 IGPU only, download the demo and try the game out, ok? smile.gif
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Thanks bro! notworthy.gif

Do you know any sellers who are offering that price? icon_question.gif
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post Feb 19 2013, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Feb 19 2013, 05:42 PM)
Nope  laugh.gif
Not joking, there is no other laptop under 12.5" with that kind of raw power.
13" closest
Vaio SVS13125CV, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M LE@RM3099[1.72kg], 4GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W8; colors: maroon/white/black/pink; Vaio carrying case (but still rather weak)

14"
Alienware M14x R2, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT650M (1GB) + (1600x900)@RM3999[2.92kg][Klipsch], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm); [CPU Options: i7-3630QM - i7-3840QM], W8, 2 years warranty
Y400, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799, 4GB, 500GB, W8, 120wPSU, swappable ODD
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agreed, none under 12.5"
however i think can use external monitor. hehe
will consider to buy Rs-11 or y400. both seems ok to me. icon_rolleyes.gif

thanks mate. wink.gif
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Model: Lenovo Y580 Full HD i7 Gamer Laptop Model Number:5934-2479Processor:Intel Core™ i7-3610QM Memory:8GB DDR3 1600 SDRAMHard Drive:1TB SATA Hard Disk DriveGraphics:Nvidia GTX660M 2GB DDR5 GraphicsCamera : 1.3MB HD CameraDisplay type:15.6" Full HD LED MonitorOptical Drive:BluRay DVD ComboConnectivity:Wireless Lan 802.11 b/g/n |Bluetooth|LAN RJ45Interface:3 x USB 3, mini-PCIe, 6-in 1 card reader,mic, headphone, HDMI, RJ45, 1 x USB/eSATA Combo, Battery:6-cells Li-ion batteryColor:Metallic BlackSpeaker:SRS+JBL Speakerkeyboard:Keyboard with BackLightOperation System:Window 7 Home Premium 64Weight: 2.5 kgBag:BackPackWarranty: 2 Year International Warranty By Lenovo  tis 1 price wnt how much
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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Feb 19 2013, 12:25 PM)
So you are young and can carry heavy weight huh? smile.gif
Laptop speakers are generally not good. Cheap RM100 desktop speakers have better sound laugh.gif
You should know the price of full SSD (128G ~ RM300+/-). Those mSATA (24G/32G) SSD in some of the laptop is factory set for caching, you can't save or install anything on it (won't see it in file explorer) unless you wade into BIOS to change setting.
Even if you buy from your friend's shop, if there were hardware failure, your friend still need to send to SC. Some SC take weeks / months to fix laptop. Consider yourself warned laugh.gif Laptop is unlike desktop, you can't just take out a faulty component but have to send the whole unit to SC.

Asus
A45VS-VX026H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT645M@RM2199[2.4kg], 2GB, 500GB, W8
N56VZ-S3151H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799[2.7kg][B&O], 4GB, 750GB, W8; color: black

Dell
Inspiron 14R (Special Edition), i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M(28nm Kepler)@RM2049[2.38kg], 4GB, 500GB(7200rpm), W7HP/W8

HP
Envy4-1204TX, i5-3317U + AMD HD8750M@RM2399[Beats][1.75kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8

Lenovo
Z480, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M@RM2099, 4GB, 1TB(5400rpm) W8, colors: grey/red/blue
Y400, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799, 4GB, 500GB, W8, 120wPSU, swappable ODD
Z500, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT645M @RM2299, 4GB, 1TB, W8; backlit, 2 years warranty (4-cell)

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
For most of the models, you can swap in a full SSD that it's still within your budget smile.gif
Laptop of 14" and above usually has standard RAM slots for user to upgrade RAM. The HDD bay also is usually accessable for user to swap HDD or SSD.
13" or smaller, depend on model. Some model has fused RAM and no RAM slot. And due to slimness, the HDD / SSD normally is of < 7mm thick.
Again, laptop components are a lot more fragile than desktop counterpart. Lots of things can die on you laugh.gif

For RM2.5k, you can get touch screen.
Acer
M5-481PTG-53316G52, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT640M + 20GB mSATA + 500GB HDD@RM2999, 10-point touch, W8
Lenovo
Z400 touch, i7-3632QM + Nvidia GT645M + (1366x768; touch)@RM2699, 4GB, 1TB, W8; backlit, 2 years warranty
Z500 touch, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT645M + (1366x768; touch)@RM2699, 4GB, 1TB, W8; backlit, 2 years warranty

If you expect stylus input, and still want to play game, NO smile.gif
Most of the hybrid (Surface Pro is one) only come with HD4000 (or worse) IGPU (unless you want to play in the lowest setting and still with some lag ... )
Acer 11.6"
Iconia W700, i3-2365M + Intel HD3000 + 64GB SSD + (1920x1080; touch)@RM2199, 4GB, W8 (now RM2.6k with keyboard and stylus)
Samsung
ATIV Smart, Z2760 + Intel GMA + (1366x768; touch) + 64GB SSD@RM2499[774g w/o keyboard], 2GB, stylus, W8; color: mystic blue
ATIV Smart Pro, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080; touch)@RM3599[884g w/o keyboard], 4GB, stylus, W8; color: black
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Thanks 4 the information! They're almost similar specs but the price can be much different ~
Especially ASUS N56 compare to Dell Inspiron, HP and Lenovo Z500.
Is there big difference between brands ?
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post Feb 20 2013, 01:36 AM

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1. Brand: Not important for me. smile.gif
2. Budget: RM3k+
3. Usage: Gaming, pictures and video editting, programming
4. Size: Min 14"

Please do advice. Thanks.
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Preferred Brand by ranking
1. Asus
2. Dell
3. Lenovo

Budget
- 2.5k below

Usage
- Heavy gaming.
- For Terra Online (No lag when in battle)

Preferred laptop/screen size
- 14"

Will use for travel every week to friend's house
Light weight will be prime factor.
Used mostly indoors not outdoors.
Not easily overheated and can last 24 hours - AFK in game overnight.
(Definitely with a external cooler fan so it doesn't overheat)
Windows8
Have headphones
No need touchscreen

Any advice on this?
Was looking at this:
A45VS-VX026H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT645M@RM2199[2.4kg], 2GB, 500GB, W8
And:
Inspiron 14R, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M@RM1899[2.38kg], 4GB, 500GB(7200rpm), W8

Recommended?
Any advice tech sifus?
Thanks

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post Feb 20 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(JustHereToPost @ Feb 20 2013, 03:19 AM)
Preferred Brand by ranking
1. Asus
2. Dell
3. Lenovo

Budget
- 2.5k below

Usage
- Heavy gaming.
- For Terra Online (No lag when in battle)

Preferred laptop/screen size
- 14"

Will use for travel every week to friend's house
Light weight will be prime factor.
Used mostly indoors not outdoors.
Not easily overheated and can last 24 hours - AFK in game overnight.
(Definitely with a external cooler fan so it doesn't overheat)
Windows8
Have headphones
No need touchscreen

Any advice on this?
Was looking at this:
A45VS-VX026H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT645M@RM2199[2.4kg], 2GB, 500GB, W8
And:
Inspiron 14R, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M@RM1899[2.38kg], 4GB, 500GB(7200rpm), W8

Recommended?
Any advice tech sifus?
Thanks
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Yup, you pretty much pick up the good one smile.gif
Asus
A45VS-VX026H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT645M@RM2199[2.4kg], 2GB, 500GB, W8
Dell
Inspiron 14R (Special Edition), i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M(28nm Kepler)@RM2049[2.38kg], 4GB, 500GB(7200rpm), W7HP/W8 (this one. The one you pick up from TJ's price list may not be there in Dell. Dell website was being updated for new models and specs, and therefore price list not stabalise smile.gif )
Lenovo
Z480, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M@RM2099, 4GB, 1TB(5400rpm) W8, colors: grey/red/blue
Y400, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799, 4GB, 500GB, W8, 120wPSU, swappable ODD

Prices are RSP, negotiable.
Yes, please use cooler pad or table fan while using laptop biggrin.gif
Get a nice piece of headphone from your remaining budget.
Also use your remaining budget to increase RAM (Asus), extend warranty (Dell, 3 years).
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QUOTE(icyflame911 @ Feb 19 2013, 08:23 PM)
Thanks bro!  notworthy.gif

Do you know any sellers who are offering that price?  icon_question.gif
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Those are Recommended Selling Price from brands. You can get much better price from re-sellers laugh.gif (still can negotiate a bit, but for low margin product, don't expect too much).
If you buy the Dell from Dell Online, negotiate by online chat (use the chat button).
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Hi guys. Need recommendation. Old laptop spoiled so need to buy one asap.
1. Preferred Brand And Form Factor
Any but Acer , light( around 2kg so easier to carry around) , considering ultrabook-like laptop but not sure if it suits my usage
2. Budget
2000-2600
3. Usage
Normal internet surfing(but will open up to 10-15 Google Chrome tabs at one time) , gaming ( can run Dota 2 enough d) , play HD movies, will be used for long hours so have to be durable
4. Preferred laptop/screen size
13-14''

Do you guys think SSD is necessary to be one form of consideration? Any advise? Thanks
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QUOTE(zhiyang @ Feb 20 2013, 12:46 PM)
Hi guys. Need recommendation. Old laptop spoiled so need to buy one asap.
1. Preferred Brand And Form Factor
Any but Acer , light( around 2kg so easier to carry around) , considering ultrabook-like laptop but not sure if it suits my usage
2. Budget
2000-2600
3. Usage
Normal internet surfing(but will open up to 10-15 Google Chrome tabs at one time) , gaming ( can run Dota 2 enough d) , play HD movies, will be used for long hours so have to be durable
4. Preferred laptop/screen size
13-14''

Do you guys think SSD is necessary to be one form of consideration? Any advise? Thanks
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Having an SSD would be a plus, since the notebook will run faster laugh.gif
Can consider these:
14"
Asus [Ultrabook]S46CM-WX023V, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT635M + 24GB mSATA + 500GB HDD@RM2399[2kg], 4GB, W7HP
Dell [Ultrabook]Inspiron 14z, i5-3337U + AMD HD7570M + 32GB SSD + 500GB(5400rpm)@RM2549[1.87kg], 4GB, W8 *no VGA port, OD
HP [Ultrabook] Envy4-1204TX, i5-3317U + AMD HD8750M@RM2399[Beats][1.75kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8


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