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post Mar 27 2006, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(jamezco @ Mar 27 2006, 02:38 PM)
so toshiba is made in china yeh ? die la like tat ....
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im not quite sure

but to be certain, ask the shop guy or check it yourself. my friend's toshiba is made in philipines aka not sure what is the level of quality

i've experienced electrical shop guy want to hide the back of the tv set. pricing also can give us a hint. high wages high price tag. same goes to notebook, the made in ____ tag is underneath. find it
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post Mar 27 2006, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(AbangCorp @ Mar 27 2006, 04:59 PM)
im not quite sure

but to be certain, ask the shop guy or check it yourself. my friend's toshiba is made in philipines aka not sure what is the level of quality

i've experienced electrical shop guy want to hide the back of the tv set. pricing also can give us a hint. high wages high price tag. same goes to notebook, the made in ____ tag is underneath. find it
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some of the toshiba notebook is assembly in philipines same like their harddisk and bla...bla...bla...
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post Mar 27 2006, 08:32 PM

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AFAIK Toshiba lappies are good in quality. You can't go wrong with Toshiba.
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post Mar 27 2006, 08:50 PM

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FYI,

Toshiba has moved all notebook assembly plant to China since early last year. plant in Phillipines no longer assemble notebooks but assembling other Toshiba products.

China is the only Toshiba notebook assembly plant for Asia region now. Latest models sold in Japan eg. Toshiba Dynabook are now made in China too
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post Mar 27 2006, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(kenny_nd @ Mar 26 2006, 08:58 PM)
IMHO,

Acer
Pros: For a branded lappie it's extremely cheap. The best price against specs comparing other branded lappies.

Cons: Terrible after-sales service. Might wait for weeks for parts to be ordered. Low cost material and components used.

Summary: If you hold an Acer pricelist and go around low yat comparing the price with what you get in Acer against other international brands. I'd say you'll waste your time. But eventually if you've decided to buy an Acer, hope that it doesn't breakdown. Bcoz once sent in to service center, more problems are expected after the service. The casing of an Acer Lappie are prone to cracks after couple of years bcoz of low quality material used. That's how an Acer's price is lower than others coz Acer chooses the lowest cost components. Anyhow depends if you just wanna get a lappie for a period of 3-4 yrs than Acer will give you the most out of your monies worth.

HP/CPQ
Pros: Affordable and reliable. Price against quality. Carries almost full range office setup.

Cons: Breakdown rate considerably high for such a brand. Return time for service still reasonable (around 1-2 weeks).

Summary: The consumer series are almost as affordable as Acer and commercial series are very reliable and robust. If you're setting up a new office or planning to upgrade the office, HP's your choice. They carry notebooks, desktops, printers, scanners, PDAs, Inks, Laserjets, Servers etc etc.

Toshiba
Pros: Experienced. Reliable. Recently considered affordable.

Cons: Toshiba lowered their quality control as to cut cost in order to compete in the price war.

Summary: Not as good as it used to be but still it's a Toshiba. They go back to as far as 386 processor in a lappie! Toshiba new objective is to produce successfull gaming, high end multimedia and Audio Video notebooks.

Fujitsu
Pros: Maintain excellent quality. 1 of the 2 brand that are "made in Japan"

Cons: Prices are steep. Parts are steep. Few service center locations around the globe.

Summary: Highly recommended for middle and top level mangement. Cost of maintenance very high (If after warranty). Very low breakdown rate. Some call Fujitsu "the Mercedes of Notebooks". Executive Design and look.

IBM/Lenovo
Pros: Extremely reliable and durable.

Cons: Terrible style and design.

Summary: IBM/Lenovo takes away all the fancy stuff in their notebooks in order to keep problems to a minimal. Less gadgets/features = Less Failure. Tough rugged material used therefore recommended to ppl who work off-shore, industrial area and etc.

What do you guys think?
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post Mar 27 2006, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(williamngwl @ Mar 27 2006, 08:51 PM)
some of them is right some of them is wrong
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enlighten us with your knowledge please will

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post Mar 27 2006, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(AbangCorp @ Mar 27 2006, 08:56 PM)
enlighten us with your knowledge please will

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ACER

not much different within aspire & travel mate.for me is just price range different.for quality,actually acer did improve alot.cause some brand more worse tham acer.they have efficient onsite pick-up warranty service.just call up 1800-88-1918.the driver will come to your place and pick up the machine(within 50km from the nearest service centre)if they are not shortage of part,usually u can get back within 1-2 week time.acer provide optional upgrade to 3 years international limited warranty(all range notebook).the parts for acer notebook can consider the cheapest amount all the famous brand in market malaysia.

http://www.acer.com.my/

http://www.acer.com.my/static_content/stat...c2=service_left

http://www.global.acer.com/support/itw_location.htm

HP

compaq m & v series notebook is target for entry level user while b series for highend market(price tag high,but spec average only,consider slim & light model)
honestly compaq not that good compare to hp pavilion & hp compaq business model like nx,nc,nw,tc notebook.but like i say compaq more for entry level.hp pavvilion do have good quality.it famous with the remote control that can watch dvd or listen to music without starting up windows.hp compaq nx series is the most tough notebook range.design & quality already improve compare to previous nx series.they add in morec security feature such as smart card reader & finger print sensor for nx series.and it come with the onsite warranty within malaysia.

http://www.hp.com.my/store/

http://www.hp.com.my/authorized_service_centers.html

FUJITSU

among all the brand,fujitsu & sony is the only two that assembly in japan(as i know)quality is not a question anymore.they have excellent after sales support.u can fix back your keyboard in 1 hour time(others?).s series for slim & light model.if u look for tablet pc,go for t series.gaming and with superfine wide screen view of your dvd movie with remote control,n series is your choice.e series is the top performance without sacrify your i/o port.p series is ideal for business user that require a power saving & portable notebook that can easyly carry all the way.c series for desktop replacement and come with affortable price.fujitsu come with 1 year international limited warranty,2 & 3 year local limited warranty.u only have to pay for labour each time your part faulty in 2 & 3 year.for all parts u purchase from fujitsu is come with 1 year limited warranty,not like others come with 3 or 6 month

http://www.fujitsu.com.my

http://www.micro-d.com.my
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post Mar 27 2006, 11:49 PM

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it's like everything is essembled in china now ... haih ... but i think tat lappies or any other gadgets also depends on luck one le ... some ppl on some US forums said that their toshiba sux coz making lots of noise and stuff ... tat is like 2% of the toshiba forum only ... others said is good and will buy toshiba in the future ....

some said Acer or watever brand also not good but my sis using acer for 5 years now still working well ... haih haih
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post Mar 28 2006, 12:02 AM

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maybe your sis seldom use ? haha ..
but it's still great for me to hear it as i'm getting an acer notebook pretty soon ..
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post Mar 28 2006, 01:12 AM

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Nola... my sis always use one ... even till now ... she use it to watch VCD and microsoft word ... hers one is the Slim & Ultraportable version... 1.2kg ... P3 ... External CD & Floppy ... cost bout 7.5k last time ...
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QUOTE(kenny_nd @ Mar 26 2006, 08:58 PM)
IMHO,

Acer
Pros: For a branded lappie it's extremely cheap. The best price against specs comparing other branded lappies.

Cons: Terrible after-sales service. Might wait for weeks for parts to be ordered. Low cost material and components used.

Summary: If you hold an Acer pricelist and go around low yat comparing the price with what you get in Acer against other international brands. I'd say you'll waste your time. But eventually if you've decided to buy an Acer, hope that it doesn't breakdown. Bcoz once sent in to service center, more problems are expected after the service. The casing of an Acer Lappie are prone to cracks after couple of years bcoz of low quality material used. That's how an Acer's price is lower than others coz Acer chooses the lowest cost components. Anyhow depends if you just wanna get a lappie for a period of 3-4 yrs than Acer will give you the most out of your monies worth.

HP/CPQ
Pros: Affordable and reliable. Price against quality. Carries almost full range office setup.

Cons: Breakdown rate considerably high for such a brand. Return time for service still reasonable (around 1-2 weeks).

Summary: The consumer series are almost as affordable as Acer and commercial series are very reliable and robust. If you're setting up a new office or planning to upgrade the office, HP's your choice. They carry notebooks, desktops, printers, scanners, PDAs, Inks, Laserjets, Servers etc etc.

Toshiba
Pros: Experienced. Reliable. Recently considered affordable.

Cons: Toshiba lowered their quality control as to cut cost in order to compete in the price war.

Summary: Not as good as it used to be but still it's a Toshiba. They go back to as far as 386 processor in a lappie! Toshiba new objective is to produce successfull gaming, high end multimedia and Audio Video notebooks.

Fujitsu
Pros: Maintain excellent quality. 1 of the 2 brand that are "made in Japan"

Cons: Prices are steep. Parts are steep. Few service center locations around the globe.

Summary: Highly recommended for middle and top level mangement. Cost of maintenance very high (If after warranty). Very low breakdown rate. Some call Fujitsu "the Mercedes of Notebooks". Executive Design and look.

IBM/Lenovo
Pros: Extremely reliable and durable.

Cons: Terrible style and design.

Summary: IBM/Lenovo takes away all the fancy stuff in their notebooks in order to keep problems to a minimal. Less gadgets/features = Less Failure. Tough rugged material used therefore recommended to ppl who work off-shore, industrial area and etc.

What do you guys think?
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personal experience

1. acer after sales is good

acer lappie bought for my bro hdd bad sector 40gb 5400rpm took back for warranty.3 days later acer service center aka highpoint called asked if i needed to back up the data as they needed to try formatting it i asked do they charge me for backing up my data they say yes, i told them nvm since the data wasn;t important (mp3 sum movies n other stuff). another 2 days went by they called me to pick up the notebook wasnt free tat week planned to get it the following week another 2 days pass they called again to remind me to pick up my notebook (wah got reminder summore) finnaly went n pick it up to my suprise the upgraded the hdd to 80gb 5400rpm (cool huh) FOC n also the backed up my bro's data also FOC lol

2 weeks after getting it highpoint called again asked me if the laptop was ok well to me tats good after sales service

2. toshiba tecra(dunno how to spell)

fren;s lappy bought around 2 months the combo drive rosak called toshiba toshiba sent technicions to pick it up within 48 hours come back wif a new unit n fix for him. fast n efficient

3. HP/Compact

fren''s lappy combo spoil to hp service center put 1 week called say no part week 2 called doing week 3 called checking week4 ready go back take found out the usb rosak pula got fed up bought a usb hub

4. IBM

built like a tank one of my ex-employer using drop it when open car door on the the road scratch a bit but no probs at all

5.fujitsu

kick ass notebook no prob watsoever if u buy them

6.NEC

design n positioning bad
extremely hot when typing due to the position of the battery
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post Mar 28 2006, 04:06 AM

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Mar 28 2006, 01:44 AM)
3. HP/Compact

fren''s lappy combo spoil to hp service center put 1 week called say no part week 2 called doing week 3 called checking week4 ready go back take found out the usb rosak pula got fed up bought a usb hub
Talking to HP tech support is like having a counseller telling you that YOU ARE WRONG. They'll try to wiggle their way out of any of their problems and if they can't do it, usually you'll end up paying a high price for repairs. The general reluctance of HP to help their customers is the reason why I do not purchase their products anymore.
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post Mar 28 2006, 11:10 AM

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lol i agree my fren called them till he was damn pissed lucky there wasnt any important assingements on the rush imagine almost 1 month jus to replace a combo drive haiz....
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Mar 28 2006, 11:10 AM)
lol i agree my fren called them till he was damn pissed lucky there wasnt any important assingements on the rush imagine almost 1 month jus to replace a combo drive haiz....
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really, my sis just brought hp v2600 series last week
i read the opinion before, is it true hp always broken?
so only the n* series can withstand for a long run

anyone can give me a clear picture
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post Mar 31 2006, 10:13 PM

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getting a lappy like getting a car unlucky u get 1 full of probs n headaches
only thing u can do is get better ones if u can afford it eg.fujitsu,toshiba tat is if u hav the dough



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