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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof

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post Jan 18 2013, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(natsu_dragneel @ Jan 18 2013, 12:01 AM)
i hope it less than 2k!!
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HTC butterfly just launched for RM2299 right? maybe XZ will be more or less the same?
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 18 2013, 12:22 AM)
To answer your question I guess we need to wait till the phone released and hope someone will test it under sudden change of temperature.

But IMO, if the glass indeed dragontrail, I assumed it able to withstand that sudden change of temperature unless the temp is too extreme. Btw iinm the back of nexus 4 wasn't even a gorilla glass thus explained why the glass may crack with sudden change of temp.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 18 2013, 12:26 AM)
Btw I kept asking myself n wonder why most preview I read stated the glass is a tempered glass in general? If the glass is dragontrail, why they didn't mentioned it? There were few preview or article bout Xperia z stated Sony used the drgontrail glass, but Sony themselves didn't say so. I wonder why.?
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i wondered the same thing also. maybe it's sony's own manufactured glass? hmm.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 18 2013, 01:43 AM)
Great News!

Sony will update Xperia  Z to Android v4.2.1 JB soon after release. smile.gif

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_to_update_the...h-news-5363.php
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this phrase sounds so familiar la... oh right... sony said that same statement regarding Xperia T/TX having upgrade to JB soon after release too
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 18 2013, 08:50 AM)
i feel you bro.... ever since i came to this thread, i just have to shake my head unbelievable in reading the information relayed.. OP just in a lot of ways mislead the ppl... and you have the guts to say these! kudos

i was strugglng to bring my points across and gave up as the ppl in here are just fanboi to the max....

one very good example that you brought up.... viewing angle, its definitely poor and they said that it is good because its privacy. OOOOMMMMGGGGGosh....

anyway, this is my opinion and its forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion but pls put fanboism aside and we will have fun here  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

android used to be cool and the whole community was really united.... now it seems fanboi is going everywhere
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why u have no guts to bring out your opinion before this? after someone blurp it out then only u shouting correct this and wrong that?

come on... as u said this is a forum... sharing information and opinion. just don't take things too hard... i mean it good to have have some arguement and so other people can judge it for themselve whether right or wrong. if you have knowledge of something, just share la. why hide behind someone's shadow and laughing alone?

no hard feelings bro. just my opinion
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 18 2013, 10:40 AM)
If SONY want to success back to top, SONY need to be keep it promising.

This time is pure SONY, no any shadow of Ericsson, I am sure it was internally big change for the company structure.
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i hope so bro... i really do...
but sony did make better progress this time, judging from the quick SE asia launch event in SG recently. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 18 2013, 10:49 AM)
and if you have nothign concrete better keep it to yourself
go read the whole thread and see what are the points that i have brought up, read- struggling did not mean i din brought it up.
if u dun bother to read, dun bother to reply
dun just jump to a conclusion

no hard feelings bro, just my opinion
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well, u did say so yourself that u gave up voicing your opinion previously...

and u complimented the other guy "and you have the guts to say these"... r u implying u have no guts to say it yourself?

but anyway, whatever la...

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 18 2013, 11:04 AM)
Yaya, hope Sony won't disappointed me as this will high possible my first Sony android phone.
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well, sony did disappoint me on the late launch of TX here. can't wait any longer that time and got acro s... i think this can last me for few more months, enough time for sony to launch Z/ZL here i guess
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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 18 2013, 11:15 AM)
sad but true sad.gif

yes... agreed with you
when comparing the hands on video, the icon is very washed out
as washed out as the icons on my Nexus 7
and it uses the zero gap , the icons should look like its floating, if you get what i mean. One X gives you that feel as if the icon jut out and maintaning its colour
thisZ color is def off

but take away nothing when viewing it from the correct angle....its superb!! its a nit picking from my part but other pros of this phone outweigh this con.

i am waiting for batt review and if it at par with note 2.... its definitely the perfect phone  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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yeah... i am starting to realise batt life is getting more important now, as i am into gaming recently!!!
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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Jan 18 2013, 11:39 AM)
color saturation on a phone is self preference.
its not like im going to do graphic editing on a phone.
I always use my phone to watch videos, and amoled gives the most pleasant experience, coz of the deep black and vibrant colors.
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yeah...it all comes down to personal preference la
no doubt, amoled screen produce more vivid colour and better viewing angles compared to lcd. blue looks bluer and red looks redder, which result in deeper colour and better contrast. i am sure everything look so beautiful on the amoled screen.
but it also resulted in "fake" screen as some bro points out. in reality an apple do not look as red as what was displayed in a amoled screen. sky does not look as blue as in amoled screen. and thus all the terms "too vivid" or "over saturated" for amoled screen pops out.
in the end, if u like colourful and vivid screen, u won't go wrong with amoled screen. if u prefer more natural looking screen, lcd or the ips did better job
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QUOTE(bettysr20 @ Jan 18 2013, 03:27 PM)
hi... anyone have any ideas what the retail price will be like? hmm.gif  icon_question.gif
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no idea la... it's all guessing game now
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opps... double post

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QUOTE(Noobi3 @ Jan 18 2013, 02:44 PM)
we r in the wrong thread bro ....... This is a thread where ppl cannot accept the flaws of Xperia series and takes the good stuff of other models and turn it into flaws so Xperia Z will look flawless . Accept it guys aka fanboys , there's no perfect flawless phones out there . When u gain some , u lose some .
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err... i kinda agree... but it's fun to read!!!

anyone care to explain what is black crush? can't understand even after reading from the heated arguement here icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Jan 18 2013, 03:45 PM)
black crush is the event when
1. details in a particular frame is not seen due to the overwhelmingly dark / contrasty thingy. not my term, i'm just explaining based on what i see in the video.
2. u fall in love with a black man/woman
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ok... now i got it. but i tot this black crush have long been an issue in conventional LCD screen. try looking at those earlier models of LCD TV and dark scene will appear like all black. there's no different level of blacks
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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Jan 18 2013, 04:12 PM)
my friend also bought a Sony TV instead of milk powder for his son. and because of this, i blame Sony for designing Bravia and Triniton which started it all. Damn you Sony. Now my friend son hungry because of Sony. What an amazing blaming system. how can someone stoop so low

Correct la.. the other orifice is used i persume for eating only
got really black (pixels totally off), not so black (the pixels turned down as much as possible but still a little light), and bad bad greyish (evident when they don't bother to calibrate their displays at all or bad design, or i don't know as per TS's logic, misinterpretation)

u say LCD because u watch pirated DVD? got really poor dvd quality. AMOLED is good for black blacks but isn't good for contrast. red is too red, washing out any lighter reds that may be beside those blacks.

there is different types of blacks, those from the Bronx, those from Africa, those from Latin America. (assuming u talking about the crush on black people)
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man... u r so funny la... dunno what u said is joke and what is fact... speechless, dunno how to ask further question

i'm not too much into those technical terms or what's their diff. but based on what i observed on diff screen,
yes, AMOLED did produce better picture quality with bright colours. deeper blacks... maybe
LCD on sony phones, so far i did notice picture is abit washout (dunno if it's the correct term but i did read some reviewer using this term on sony xperia product). there are some comments on the xperia t, ion and the recently z about display abit washout. i have to use a screen filter on my acro s to solve the problem
and yes, lcd on my acro s also have poorer viewing angle

black crush? no, i only have "white crush"... with my phone
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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Jan 18 2013, 04:34 PM)
you sir, have my utmost respect for kicking him in the balls

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there's still no perfect phone. IIRC the Xperia Z uses some sort of a filter too, with their mobile bravia or some sort of tech to increase contrast in their washed out images. and they have poor viewing angles.

but why would u want to look at your tiny phone screen from an extreme angle? chicken eyes ah?
white crush? you dating angmoh kia/moi?
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that's y i did say previously most of the time we will look at our phone directly. and so personally i actually don't see the poor viewing angle as a big issue. but some bros here disagree and says it's like a big thing...

angmoh moi??? soon... real soon... drool.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 18 2013, 06:13 PM)
whoa this thread really goes very fast than L920 at the moment....

since many users are from samsung's SIII or note ii... or some got own both xperia + galaxy...

i wonder both brand device which one sound performance for the song is better? hmm.gif

by the way, Hai, sifu benny. long time no see in ipad thread lol.
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QUOTE(Fries @ Jan 18 2013, 05:56 PM)
CRT IS THE BEST!!! tongue.gif
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CRT??? what's that??? can eat anot? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jan 18 2013, 06:35 PM)
A new challenger appears :  LG Optimus G Pro

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/18/lg-opti...-pro-spec-leak/

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wow... this year really is war of the 5" screen smartphone

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