this is what i meant, since batter is non user removable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670576
Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof
Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof
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Jan 17 2013, 05:10 PM
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this is what i meant, since batter is non user removable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670576 |
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Jan 17 2013, 09:31 PM
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Jan 18 2013, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Jan 17 2013, 10:34 PM) Most OLED especially Samsung's screen appears to be traffic-light-ish color is due to the nonsense pentile RGBG pixel arrangement. OLED is trumping LCD tech regardless of TN, IPS, PVA or SLCD gen1,2,3,4 variation in almost every aspect from viewing angle, color coverage, power consumption to thickness due to active organic lightning element. Problem with korean OLED is the corner cutting in order to save cost in their inferior pentile arrangement panel. What people are commenting on Xperia Z's display has very little to do with color gamut. as a matter of fact, huge part of mobile BE2 engine that sony slaps into xperia has huge gamut enhancement algorithm in it during multimedia playback. What's noticeable in xperia Z is the serious off angle washout that is noticeable even in youtube video, and this has nothing to do with gamut or even worse if you think this could be some sort of silly privacy filter. Especially when sony says they did the zero gap thingy between the glass and the LCD in Xperia Z which is supposed to enhance viewing angle. This could be a let down for me for such a highly anticipated device. Those who insist that you look straight onto your phone at 90 degree most of the time, i agree. But off angle is going to happen accidentally ALL the time as you move your phone around. And even if that's only a tiny percentage of the time, my brain is definitely going to b**** about it. You have absolutely no idea what you're blurping here. Exynos is the first ever commercial chip to implement ARM's big.LITTLE architecture. What happened was Samsung misled people through the word "Octa". The Exynos has 4 Cortex-A15 core with 4 Cortex-A7 cores and thus has 8 cores in total. But the ARM's big.LITTLE architecture doesn't allow all A15 and A7 cores to run simultaneously which means at the end of the day, only 4 cores (either the big A15 or LITTLE A7) will be active at a time and thus making it effectively only a quad core processor. imagine if nVidia named Tegra 4 same way samsung did, that would be tegra 4 gazillion. The ARM's hybrid big.LITTLE architecture means mixture of high power and low power core in 1 SOC so the processor can switch between high performance and low power on demand depending on requirement. They are all true ARM cores, as true as it gets. It is not mixture of A7 and A15 architecture in one core and there's no imaginary "mini core" here. This is nothing like intel turbo boost at all. these ARM cores does not overclock themselves in any way. Power consumption wise, Cortex A15 architecture is known to be the MOST power hungry ARM's RISC design to date. ARM's design allows Cortex A15 TDP up to whopping 8watt at which architecture such as Qualcomm's Snapdragon and even intel's power hungry x86 Atom hit just 2watt under full load. In most cases, manufacturer such as Qualcomm and Apple skip A15 and license ARMv7 instruction and build their own processor from scratch despite Cortex A15's high performance. nVidia Tegra and Samsung Exynos are the rare one that has decided to be lazy and just slap the A15 straight without redesigning. (Probably due to their ARM licensing limitation too) Here's some power related reading on these mobile chips if you guys are interested: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/14477...power-efficient And your very serious misconception needs to be corrected: Cortex A15 = power hungry & high performance Cortex A7 = power saving & low performance. and what does footprint has to do with anything here? plainly Pressure sensor is just the Sony's way to name the barometer. Barometer sense atmospheric pressure and can be useful in assisting weather prediction, height sensing according to sea level. These are said to be useful in application utilizing height sensing and provide additional dimension to lock on GPS/Glonass satellite. The API and sensor was first introduced by google in 2011 with galaxy nexus and has no meaningful application to date. It has absolutely nothing to do and will not help in anyway with touch input. Modern smartphone and synaptic laptop touchpad are all capacitive based touch sensor. Little or none of them utilize even a slightest pressure which is why you wouldn't be able to press using your finger nails. All so-called "pressure setting" especially from your laptop touchpad are derived from the static charge of your finger. And those hybrid big touch screen someone mentioned earlier? those are infrared based optical sensor, which are pretty inaccurate and dumb in my experience. And heck, finding a modern gadget that is still utilizing resistive touch (pressure based) is one hell of a challenge. make no mistake, i'm a sony fan myself and i have been extremely excited since the day this Xperia Z leaked on mobile review russia. No one blames you if you don't understand or don't know. Just don't pretend to know and mislead those who really want to learn. And I am in no way to compete here with you to see who's right. i was strugglng to bring my points across and gave up as the ppl in here are just fanboi to the max.... one very good example that you brought up.... viewing angle, its definitely poor and they said that it is good because its privacy. OOOOMMMMGGGGGosh.... anyway, this is my opinion and its forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion but pls put fanboism aside and we will have fun here android used to be cool and the whole community was really united.... now it seems fanboi is going everywhere |
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Jan 18 2013, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 18 2013, 10:39 AM) why u have no guts to bring out your opinion before this? after someone blurp it out then only u shouting correct this and wrong that? and if you have nothign concrete better keep it to yourselfcome on... as u said this is a forum... sharing information and opinion. just don't take things too hard... i mean it good to have have some arguement and so other people can judge it for themselve whether right or wrong. if you have knowledge of something, just share la. why hide behind someone's shadow and laughing alone? no hard feelings bro. just my opinion go read the whole thread and see what are the points that i have brought up, read- struggling did not mean i din brought it up. if u dun bother to read, dun bother to reply dun just jump to a conclusion no hard feelings bro, just my opinion |
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Jan 18 2013, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 18 2013, 10:53 AM) well, u did say so yourself that u gave up voicing your opinion previously... yeah, gave up voicing my opinion that gotta do with OP commentsbut anyway, whatever la... typical respond of someone who have nothing better to say other than flaming, really what is your objective? sometimes you need to understand that opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one and they all stinks! |
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Jan 18 2013, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jan 18 2013, 11:08 AM) fanboys are everywhere sad but true anyway, I recall the viewing angle has to do with PVA, which, although has deeper black and better contrast, and they claim the viewing angle is big, but color does shift when you're not looking frmo 90 degree straight, but the things on screen are still remain visible, unlike IPS and AMOLED, which maintain the color, or have way less color shift, normally unnoticeable. It's sad that Xperia Z would use that, I was hoping for a AMOLED or something.. yes... agreed with you when comparing the hands on video, the icon is very washed out as washed out as the icons on my Nexus 7 and it uses the zero gap , the icons should look like its floating, if you get what i mean. One X gives you that feel as if the icon jut out and maintaning its colour thisZ color is def off but take away nothing when viewing it from the correct angle....its superb!! its a nit picking from my part but other pros of this phone outweigh this con. i am waiting for batt review and if it at par with note 2.... its definitely the perfect phone |
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Jan 18 2013, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jan 18 2013, 11:24 AM) yes, I prefer IPS screen for phone, although AMOLED is not too bad as well, ,maybe just hope for a later variant of IPS screen i felt its pretty washed out.... and pretty everyone said the same thing, the floating icon things i understand, been experiencing that with some Nokia phones already. I tot Nexus 7 also IPS right? shouldn't be very washed out. My TF101 is using the same screen tech and i felt that it's great too. Back to the point, it's a phone, not a tablet nor a laptop, people are not going to use it facing directly straight even half the time, i guess, and I'm very picky on color shift, it's so bad it could blind me lol, so viewing angle IMO is very important. btw shouldn't compared to One X la, many review site claimed it's the best looking display they've seen on phone so far man. the only reason i chose N7 over ipad mini was the text readability on N7 yeah, one X rocks on display dept |
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Jan 18 2013, 12:08 PM
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Jan 19 2013, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jan 18 2013, 06:35 PM) A new challenger appears : LG Optimus G Pro This http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/18/lg-opti...-pro-spec-leak/ ![]() It seems the other player did buckled up and bring competition to Sammy.... I like! HTC better buck up or get left behind. Possibly we could see a xperia nexus before a moto nexus looking at how Sony progress |
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Jan 25 2013, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 25 2013, 11:35 AM) Haizz!!! If Sony still superb slow like turtle, Sony sure regret! once S IV announcing, I am sure Sony will lost the customer. agreeThing is hot when it still fresh, if too delay, thing will cool, once cool it not longer fresh and hot. the only way to capture the market is to launch earlier so that those who are waiting will not wait it is the same strategy adopted by Samsung to convert those iphone users and with Samsung's aggressive the similar phone will lose out. and bear in mind that Samsung's spec is never a slouch too |
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Jan 25 2013, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 25 2013, 01:49 PM) Ya, human easier change mind, if something even better out, what for still ops for it. their product is not superb, but usually top notch during their launch. this undeniable apart from the plasticky designSamsung so success not means it product is superb, it was because great on advertising and release ASAP once announcing. Any product once announced, need to sell it ASAP. and last year, they managed to launch s3 in Msia within a month after announcement |
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Jan 25 2013, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 25 2013, 02:48 PM) Ya, correct, but in actual experience, it never was. S III 1GB international version is kind of not smooth, similar product One X or One X+ is smooth just crap battery and I don't like it design include their Sense interface. agreed on the TW launcher on S3.... it sucks in terms of smoothness.... its so bad that it will kill the home launcher when mem is lowBut not denied Samsung never release smooth phone much. Until now the only consider really smooth was Note II that is 2GB phone, maybe S III 2GB LTE also smooth - this I not sure as I never try before. but apart from that, the camera. the batt. and it was the fastest proc untill S4 pro got released anyway, i think other players have catched up including Sony.... a good thing for us consumer the phone i hate the most now. HTC! |
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Jan 25 2013, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jan 25 2013, 03:56 PM) I beg to differ. The HTC One X apps drawer is jerky not smooth at all vs Samsung S3/Note 2 apps drawer. HTC sense homescreen UI is slight smoother than Samsung Touch Wiz. HOX+ similarly too though the jerkyness is improved in the apps drawer Sense was good during GB era...after that it was downhillI don't like HTC Sense, Samsung TW UI, Xperia Arc UI too and always replace all of it with Nova |
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Jan 25 2013, 04:34 PM
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Feb 3 2013, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 2 2013, 03:16 AM) 1) yup their screen look nicer, but still need to knw the true spec if want 2 compare You don't need to have experience producing a camera to make good camera2) tis 1 not sure lar 3) lumia 920 ady receive their January update patch, n for android 1, i think they perform the same as sony 4) nope, bcauz software cannot improve wat is ady fixed, so lens & sensor come 1st thn software 5) front camera, i think we need a good camera like the lumia 920, so tat can c face clearer even dim light place 6) wide angle also related with lens & sensor problem, win-lose situation 7) got lar, especially whn streaming movies, but wifi ac is not mainstream now, but still futureproof i think overall HTC m7 is also quite nice but i think HTC has no experience in making camera For example iPhone takes really good pic But sensor wise Sony is the best in mobile industry QUOTE(theWeird_Weird @ Feb 2 2013, 11:52 AM) S4 for the win |
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Feb 14 2013, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(tzershi @ Feb 14 2013, 02:24 AM) PhoneArena has just published its Xperia Z review based on the review, it seems the achilles heel of this phone is the displayhttp://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xpe...Z-Review_id3247 and somehow... the camera review is kinda below the expectation... |
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Feb 16 2013, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 16 2013, 05:31 PM) i can see this comparison is biased, it is good that they put canon camera photo Gosh.... Not again?!to show a more accurate colour balance in few comparison but from the shot of canon i can say they stick to a certain camera mode, amateur work, should let it in auto mode so u will notice colour inaccuracy in last few photos, too bright and thus lose in details & shadows in 1st test see the details such as crack on the road n tree branches or the cloud in term of colour accuracy & colour depths i will say nokis lumia 920 win then come xperia Z & iphone 5 and last s3 & note 2 then here come the best part as u see the night shot, now i'm not sure the person is actually amateur or a pro because you can clearly see the shot are totally shown in a center focus mode or portrait mode in xperia Z and nokia lumia 920, hence you see long light glare of the streets light instead of star like light glare in infinity focus mode on the samsung & canon & iphone photos either the person is amateur who really don't knw a thing & choose a wrong mode instead to leave it auto determine or a pro which purposely forge the shot to make xperia Z & lumia 920 seem inferior Every review that is against Z you say its biased, but every good review you back it up like mad Way to go man |
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 17 2013, 09:13 AM) I like Xperia Z..looks cool and the specs is great. But i don't like this thread. Too much hate posts. I don't know why ppl love to say bad things about other brand or product. For me..posting about this phone strong points is much better than post about other product weakness. Here, ppl posted bout hate Samsung..bad HTC..stupid iPhone It just make me afraid to join this type of Sony community. Try take a peek at other phone official thread. In S2..S3 or Note2 official thread, condemning other phones/product is very rare. They prefer discuss about their own product..and very seldom talk bad things about other product. I use mostly Samsung product but would like to try other product as well. After lurking and reading on this thread, i bought HTC One X+ before upgrade it to Butterfly. Maybe when Xperia Z release here, i might buy one but i don't think i can join this community as i find their mentality quite different to others. Peace QUOTE(joytest @ Feb 17 2013, 09:37 AM) Very sensible post. The tone was set by the TS, the defender of Sony mobile universe |
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QUOTE(toda_III @ Feb 17 2013, 05:06 PM) Well, from what I see in this thread, we were discussing about this phone's features for most of the pages (for 110++ pages), until the past recent pages when the phonearena website was brought out. In my opinion, phonearena is heavily against sony, therefore few people jump out to defend this phone, including me. not so much of talking how bad other phone is. I suggest you to read the entire thread and you will find very much earlier in the thread TS already set the tone. Those who condemned have left, including myself and when revisited again..... LolThis post has been edited by sebastianX11: Feb 17 2013, 08:49 PM |
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