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post Dec 27 2012, 10:27 AM, updated 13y ago

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Dear All,

Here is the video of Puchong Hartamas Guardhouse that was demolished by MPSJ. WTF. Please dont tell me developer cuci tangan? Haiya rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V10FsfFEFZ0
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:39 AM

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Meaning the G&G thingie for Puchong Hartamas was never approved by MPSJ or it's the the guard house not approved ?
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 27 2012, 10:39 AM)
Meaning the G&G thingie for Puchong Hartamas was never approved by MPSJ or it's the the guard house not approved ?
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I am not so sure myself. but mpsj came, demolished without prior notice. The RA president got upset and called mpsj, teresa kok and kim crest (developer) to explain. after 4 years only mpsj wanna roboh. really wtf. what is the current situation eh? anybody from puchong hartamas?
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:48 AM

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Wahh. Why MPSJ so free to go to demolish this kind of tolerate thingy? If no approval then settle by money ma, MPSJ, famous for it what.

If Puchong Hartamas now is guardless, then habis lah security. Property price also would not increase much dy.

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post Dec 27 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 27 2012, 10:48 AM)
Wahh. Why MPSJ so free to go to demolish this kind of tolerate thingy? If no approval then settle by money ma, MPSJ, famous for it what.

If Puchong Hartamas now is guardless, then habis lah security. Property price also would not increase much dy.
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Ya lor. I am not staying in Puchong Hartamas but I am quite upset too to know this because WTF is the government, police and mpsj doing about safety? mpsj said the guardhouse is too dangerous to be built there because of the sharp turning to guardhouse. yes, it can be dangerous but i sometimes use that road too. it is not that dangerous. come on. now without guardhouse, it will be more dangerous to the residents there.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 27 2012, 10:48 AM)
Wahh. Why MPSJ so free to go to demolish this kind of tolerate thingy? If no approval then settle by money ma, MPSJ, famous for it what.

If Puchong Hartamas now is guardless, then habis lah security. Property price also would not increase much dy.
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May be they got complained by those who do not want to pay maintenance fee and the Guard house in the first place does not get enough majority approval from the residence and also never submit for MPSJ approval..
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Dec 27 2012, 10:56 AM)
Ya lor. I am not staying in Puchong Hartamas but I am quite upset too to know this because WTF is the government, police and mpsj doing about safety? mpsj said the guardhouse is too dangerous to be built there because of the sharp turning to guardhouse. yes, it can be dangerous but i sometimes use that road too. it is not that dangerous. come on. now without guardhouse, it will be more dangerous to the residents there.
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I was upset too. But to say the turning to the guardhouse is too dangerous was just a stupid reason to their act.

It was the road issue and if really turning to guardhouse is dangerous, then should allocate one or two bumps to ease the cars speed. Now, the residents are living more dangerous without guardhouse.

Nonsense MPSJ act. They dont see what is a purpose of a guardhouse and simply demolish it.


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post Dec 27 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 27 2012, 11:02 AM)
I was upset too. But to say the turning to the guardhouse is too dangerous was just a stupid reason to their act.

It was the road issue and if really turning to guardhouse is dangerous, then should allocate one or two bumps to ease the cars speed. Now, the residents are living more dangerous without guardhouse.

Nonsense MPSJ act. They dont see what is a purpose of a guardhouse and simply demolish it.
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Yeah, there are bumps there too. Not that dangerous. Nonsense la MPSJ. Bandar Puteri landslide who want to solve? Then suddenly this happens. BS!
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(JustNobody @ Dec 27 2012, 11:02 AM)
May be they got complained by those who do not want to pay maintenance fee and the Guard house in the first place does not get enough majority approval from the residence and also never submit for MPSJ approval..
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Very likely that's the case but if I am not mistaken the G&G thingie in Puchong Hartamas was there since the developer was selling the houses, it's not an add-on after the houses are developed. Don't tell me the developer never gotten any approval in the first place !


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post Dec 27 2012, 11:09 AM

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the issue started in 2010

http://puchonghartamas.com/node/96


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post Dec 27 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Dec 27 2012, 11:04 AM)
Yeah, there are bumps there too. Not that dangerous. Nonsense la MPSJ. Bandar Puteri landslide who want to solve? Then suddenly this happens. BS!
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Likely there are people complaining about it. MPSJ will not be so free one, sure got someone complaining.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:11 AM

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http://www.puchonghartamas.com/node/137

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post Dec 27 2012, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Dec 27 2012, 11:11 AM)
It would appear to me someone is dragging their feet on the issue until MPSJ tak boleh tahan then have to act in a drastic manner.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:23 AM

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this is an interesting precedent to watch.

there will be more cases like this to come as crime rate rises, more cases of half cooked gng, fng, xng... buyers assume all is good but developers not taking full resposibility, legality/approvals questionable, some people don't pay, etc., etc...

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Then Stella said that there is an alternative site already identified by MPSJ in year 2009 and based on the understanding, the new site must be completed with a new guardhouse, then only demolish the current guardhouse. Why this is not followed?

MPSJ engineer En Mohd Arifuddin explained that he is working with the Developer on the road access design only recently, in September 2011. There was deadline given by MPSJ to the Developer to submit the design or else MPSJ will carry out demolition. There has been delay in such plan and the approval could not be reach within this deadline, even though it has been postponed a few times. Hence MPSJ made the drastic decision to demolish it.


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Quoting from PHRA 4TH AGM #there is currently no laws on G&G, this G & G thing is a marketing tactic by housing developer to attract house buyers ....# OWNERS OF THE PHRA PHASE 1 ARE ALL VICTIMS - including Intercom, smarthome devices etc in full color advertisements [dated back in 2003], the developer had signed contracts with the Ministry of Housing on the advertisements and the contract s are still legal binding.
The saying goes 'OWINGS MUST BE RETURNED'! , hope more complainants will do something like the grey hair complainant pictured above had done to recover the 'owings', no need to sue, no need to pay legal fees [as suggested by your current arrogant leadership of PHRA committee], go proper channels to get what are owings, what are outstanding! WHERE THERE IS A WILL, THERE IS A WAY, GOOD LUCK FOLKS, BE COURAGEOUS!

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 27 2012, 11:23 AM)
this is an interesting precedent to watch.

there will be more cases like this to come as crime rate rises, more cases of half cooked gng, fng, xng... buyers assume all is good but developers not taking full resposibility, legality/approvals questionable, some people don't pay, etc., etc...
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And with inflation the G&G are ever wanting to increase the subscriptions. My place the RA is asking the members to pay more. And I see a whole bunch of guards ( maybe got 10 people ) hired. Ghee .....when security is bad, people want to have their own guards, but won't that will make the police more slack ? By having more guards, increasing subscriptions, is it improving security or making thing worse ?
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 27 2012, 11:32 AM)
And with inflation the G&G are ever wanting to increase the subscriptions. My place the RA is asking the members to pay more. And I see a whole bunch of guards ( maybe got 10 people ) hired. Ghee .....when security is bad, people want to have their own guards, but won't that will make the police more slack ? By having more guards, increasing subscriptions, is it improving security or making thing worse ?
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Security has improved. Definitely. However, it is not due to our police force. So IGP said crime rate reduced = yes. But not thanks to you, IGP Bloody fool. It is the citizens who are taking own initiatives.

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post Dec 27 2012, 11:55 AM

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My fren lives there. He said the developer didnt get approval for guard house . So now settled but have to move it to other place . Now they got temp guard
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post Dec 27 2012, 12:00 PM

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oh, sad to see this, yeah I suppose got people lodged complaint
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post Dec 27 2012, 04:28 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=i9z5if...ature=endscreen
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post Dec 28 2012, 10:07 AM

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this episode

looks like MPSJ act for pengadu
1. who are the pengadu, 1,2,3 or few hundred
2. if 1-2,3 vs the majority that has no objection, is it fair to just act for the minority
3. are those not paying?
4. sick for those want to enjoy the service without paying
5. will we see mroe and more guard house kena tear down, due to 1-2 pengadu ?

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