i myself got b4 in admath..and im a tame now
but seriously, u aint need any math once u entered aviation as a serious part of ur life..all u need to do is to get ur physics in a good and full understanding in it..but no worries there, just expect tough competitions during the interview

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Added on March 18, 2008, 10:03 pmits 5 years minimum...normally u will 'deem' by ur company longer than 5 years..6 years la easy said

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Added on March 18, 2008, 10:05 pmu will get miat free education if u passed with flying colors, cgpa 3.5 and above..
no worries, as long as u passed all the exam which 75 and above, u hv nothing to worry about...no need to pay for the bond with mara

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Added on March 18, 2008, 10:07 pmwhat nationality are u?

This post has been edited by amvasierra: Mar 18 2008, 10:07 PM

kabadi howlong did u study the mcq and the essay prior the exam intensively?
im gona take the exam next month, submitting before raya

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Added on September 10, 2008, 5:34 pmMAS is 10 years..

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Added on September 10, 2008, 5:43 pmnope, but the ordeal tha we had was to have SOJT..and because of that we had delayed our licensing exam up to 7 months..but thankfully we got enough time to study and for those who are on the fast track for oral exams, also thanked us coz we lengthen the gap so that all the candidates who had passed the written can go straight for oral, imean in 2 months after DCA given the written results..my fren is going next week, its like he just prepared yesterday(7 days before the oral exam)..damn fast now

This post has been edited by amvasierra: Sep 10 2008, 05:43 PM

if i got A n C fixed wing, how am i gonna convert to the rotorcraft? by taking extra module or just go for type training or wat?

Lestat please help



This post has been edited by amvasierra: Nov 6 2008, 09:19 PM

i wud go to miat if i were u, even if miat is a fortress surrounded by a jungle..
the only thing is just that, if ure not really into the aircraft maintenance, u can choose either to become a lecturer-->theyll send u to oversea and u just name which country u wanna go, or there was once of Miat fren(coz i was Mas/miat trainee), he had a chance to do so, but he turned it down but he choosed his dream to be a pilot, so Mara fully sponsored his training at flying school at kelantan, forgot the name la, and once he passed n got his atpl,he have recieved offer later from MAS n they hired them..so miat is a good working prospect imo, the thing is just that u can see some babi hutan at the outer fence surronding miat, its kinda funny tho

ive met 1 uncle, for 15 times..yours is 22 times for reeexam i guess im goona put the bullet in my head after i got the license

1.)DCA will be 2 subjects for initial exam, airframe/engine and air legislation

MCQ and essay for each paper
so total is 4 papers(2 mcqs and 2 essays)

2.)i dont think Nilai is an approved training skewl or under EASA 147 or shit, same thing goes to Miat if u started to enrolled in miat at the year of 2005.coz at the mid year of 2005 their AO was revoked by DCA..thanx to unikl..so practically if u read AN (not sure what issue) u will see the requirements to eligible u for the exam..IF u a TAME from MAS,AASIA, or APR(they have AO ok) u can sit for the exam after 4 years or less once u started the TAME program..as far as i know, there are no hours of working experience needed in details, as long as u submit the necessary schedule of inspection works and must be approved by foremen if ure a technician or departmental head of training if u a tame..which saying that prior to the exam date, u must work on real not dead or museum aircraft for 6 months in any of 2 years of your training and have a necessary experience by submitting a schedule of inspection works to DCA, provided ur training was supervised by DCA approved organisation or EASA part 145, thus ur workschedule is valid pertaining to ur experience working on the approved org.


3.)starting salary grad technician im not sure, it varies from other company to others, some gives more benefit but less money some more shit job but good money..it all depends on individual..

4.) minimum age for DCA exam is 20, for company approval is 21..thank god im still 22..n waiting for the result of my engine/airlegislation probly next month

we are here to help u and the others, as on my era(2-3 years ago) no one enlighten us on this matters, we ourselves discovered it though

say if u have EASA B1 or B2, if u happen to work in Msia u hv to take air legislation full paper and the oral too in order for u to work in msia..
it applies to any under european country and some middle east or CAAchina..
coz u need to be well adverse with their law of the land

i never really condemned Miat as their approval was revoked or wahetever shit happen, as once Miat got their AO, and before Unikl came with the intervention of the system, everything in Miat was all fine, the instructor is very experienced if u kena the ex airforce ur luckyla, and some Miat breed instructor were also good, i mean in teaching basics la..but it all happened when Unikl fcuked the system and all, if not Miat is the only approved training school in SE asia.but i hv left Miat for good, and the journeys continue..

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Added on November 9, 2008, 1:17 pmRM100...tats it...read AN..it is all there(forgot which issue )

This post has been edited by amvasierra: Nov 9 2008, 01:17 PM

yup ptptn will do,but all will be paid off once u get full 4.0 cgpa..and it is easy mate..
i can say my batch of 2004 july intake, 93% of us achieved 4.0..
and it all free..but no use for us also coz we are sponsored so nothing happen also la..as long as u passed all the required exam is ok...
mind to tell you guys in MIAt or interested in in..the English subject is the shittiest..u guys will know

go for helicopter..
good money
im also wana convert my license to a/c rotorcraft once i got my a/c aeroplane
helicopter prospect is very good in msia and throughout the world

i was in MAS/MIAT programme, actually mas but training in Miat..i can say i hv no complains about the condition to live in miat, biasalha if u want to study n succeed u must endure the tortures..but when it comes to quality im the one amongst few others who always filed a complain to our mas trainee manager,n so on..happen to be my uncle is one of the mas training dept head last time..we complain this lectrure sux, money tak masok sampai half a month how to eat and stuff..so from 3.5 years duration of training, we have to go for only 2 years in Miat..the consequences are we have to study back BCAR chapters..u knoe why la kan..
all in all miat is a good place, but few people screwed it up and it all f***ed..i pity myself and miat students bcz of the system playing us around, but life must go on..
oh yeah, during my time the instructors are as par as the one who got the license and experienced, but now i hv no idea...they teach sumthing that u can read from the book and it is worthless la..haha..just survive for this time being mate..like we had to do

mate, if u hv no doubts bout money and all, why dont u go straight to AST in scotland, or CSE or Oxford training school in london?
compared to Miat, it is well establish training school in the uk and throughout the world
their basic exams for mcqs and essays are the models for DCA examination..and those papers are also toyol for DCA exam..
4 years duration or less in less than rm200k..exclude the accommodation and food stuff
they really trained u for ure money, as i got this from my LAEs who went there for examinations
it all depends

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Added on November 9, 2008, 1:43 pmas i said aviation is very wide in prospect, it all depends on individual..
as i love heli since i was a kiddo, and my hometown is the hub for the biggest heli company in malaysia(now not really coz awan inspirasi took over their operation)
and good money well i think ive decided my path where to be in the next 2-3 years from now
once u got the licenses it is a passport for u to go wherever u wanna go..damn my mates are going for their oral next week..so envy them

This post has been edited by amvasierra: Nov 9 2008, 01:43 PM

i finished mine in july 2006, supposed to be finished in year end 2007 as per contract..i saw many people, and the one who doing well in their ojt are most likely to be an Lae..from my observation la..n they have a direct contact with other apprentices, and discover the secret of success, will be more successful...u know..we got toyols and we made analysis of dca exams..ehehehe

This post has been edited by amvasierra: Nov 9 2008, 01:50 PM

degree course? u wanna be instructor isit?
yes, but they do it oversea

if u go for degree courses, they will offer u the courses mainly oversea unis and some msia unis..and then back to miat for good:p
im not really sure bout this im not really miat student..hehe..but thats is the degree afaik

how to say this..hmm
ok 1stly nilai is not an approved training school..they will never help u, dont be naive..u will only get ur cert,diploma, not license
working duration i have no idea..u have to refer to Airwothiness notices for the details, since it is not an approved school, complication will arise..
if u go to non mainstream tame program, u hv to work for some period of years in order to obtain necessary experience to eligible u to sit for LWTR..those requirements of years are all described briefly in AN..

EASA exam is no restriction, if u so damn powderful u can take easa exam after spm also no problem..but prior issuing the license to u u must submit necessary schedule of inspection works under approved organization or under EASA part145 for necessary and valid experience

why uwanna get degree from miat if u wana get the license? degree is nothing in aviation mate, u gotta start from a scratch..unless ur dream to be an instructor which will be despise by the students coz of unnecessary experience in aviation.

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Added on November 9, 2008, 2:26 pmyes..no different, in fact have batch mates u got a degree and diploma in aerodynamics or whatever shit they have while im having my ordinary spm cert..same batch also..
and going for the license..advantages? well, u tua than the rest of the people tats it ..knowledge wise may be differ but....

License is the ultimate goal lah

This post has been edited by amvasierra: Nov 9 2008, 02:26 PM

i wud suggest u to go to miat for this time being since miat has a better track record compared to polytech or nilai..but the life is the setback for the career..just study u will be ok la for sure

regulation is nothing,abit strict..just study and the rest will do the job..

lemme say this thing delicately,
the idea is good, it was very good initially,as of time passed by,the quality is declined to the point their AO, afai can remember was AO/00023/DCAM was revoked
the system was initially approved by DCA n then unikl took over, everything was kaputt..SUCKS u noe..oh in case u dint noe technical subjects needs very much block system not semester system..am not making any sentiments but i bet if not few out there,there will be 10-50 more people out there who experience the same thing will agree with me..what award? i,no us..dint care bout award mate..as long as we can get our LWTR with no problem arise, that's it

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Added on November 9, 2008, 10:20 pmtheres no point talking bout miat problems, u go anywhere also got problem..thats the sacrifice everyone have to make..im here not to condemn miat, let by gone be by gone..im here to help those people about their curiosity in aviation especially those who interested to be LAE, tho im not yet become 1 but to be 1 someday, hopefully within next year:p..so if theres any doubts, me and few people here can help u guys to clear any doubts in ur mind, maybe not vastly or thoroughly guides them, but it may helps..as we have no one to refer to during our training time so lets work on as per topic is concern

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Added on November 9, 2008, 10:31 pmwhy dont you try apr? they have the real courses as per BCAR section L syllabus..and afaik they have DCA AO for basic training coz it is own by ex DCA men..their training will be extensive and every 6 months will be doing ojt in mas, air asia or transmile..PTPTN approved, furthermore u can be a skilled type worker once u passed certain examination and u may work on 3rd party aircraft here in subang and u will get ur salary too..few of apr mates i knew they already went to DCA and their passing rate pun boleh tahan ..u can go to their website at http://aeroprecision.com.my/ ..check it out

This post has been edited by amvasierra: Nov 9 2008, 10:31 PM

miat is back on track..good, hopefully they can conduct the LWTR exam on behalf of DCA anytime soon