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post Oct 19 2015, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(fadthil @ Oct 19 2015, 05:26 PM)
ok, maybe you are right on the ps3 lens thingy. but in my case, the longest time i'd use my ps3 for bd playback is one movie duration... so i really don't understand how overheating can happened. if playing games continuously i can take it... and i also put my ps3 on an open standee without any surrounding covering or contained in a cabinet  rclxub.gif

i've read somewhere that they use economy soldering & poor quality thermal paste on the circuit board or something like that. a good re-soldering will do the trick and can make it lasts longer....
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just thermal paste enough, if kena ylod need do reballing solder
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post Oct 26 2015, 11:01 AM

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Lol,

Since u hv bad experiences wif Sony.. de logical ting to do is to avoid another Sony..

Tats wat l did
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post Oct 29 2015, 11:21 AM

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If really want to get the full Bluray experience, recommend to get a Bluray home theater system for a complete blast.

The cheapest Bluray Home Theater System below RM1000:

Sony BDV-E2100 RM799/RM899
1000W 3D Bluray home theater
Previously this one only sold for RM699 at Tesco store before GST.

Sony BDV-E3100 RM899
1000W 3D Bluray home theater
Sold at SenQ/Senheng

Samsung HT-J5100K RM599/RM699/RM799
1000W Bluray home theater (non-3D)

Philips HTB 3520 (RM799)
1000W 3D Bluray home theater
Found this one at Giant Hyper Market. This is the best all rounder Bluray Home Theater, with also the smart tv apps, NFC/Bluetooth streaming.


Personally owned a Philips HTS 3562 a few year back and use it until today.

Also owned a 3D Bluray player last year, Philips BDP3480K, which is among the cheapest 3D Bluray player (RM300) at that time that still has the old composite video out and audio for old TV. (This is for my old CRT TV at home town)

Normally I don't play Bluray Disc. I stream media from my PC/Smartphone via DLNA to the HTS3562 for all the media stuff, normally are high quality H264 mp4 file for movie, or Full HD H264 music video, downloaded from Youtube.

The good thing on Bluray player is, you virtually can play anything on it regardless of format (even rmvb file). It can read media file from external hard disk. It also act as a very capable media streamer.

My minimum requirement for playback is the format must be at least H264 encoded, even 720p format is enough for me.
Then TV plays an important factor as well. Plasma TV still triumph down on picture quality. I owned a last generation 3D Plasma TV. Pretty satisfied on the PQ.

There is a cheap OLED from LG that sold for RM7999 (Full HD, 55", curved)
Wish more OLED is made for cheaper price in the future. Never has interest on 4K TV though.
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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Oct 26 2015, 11:01 AM)
Lol,

Since u hv bad experiences wif Sony.. de logical ting to do is to avoid another Sony..

Tats  wat l did
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u got a point there... but i dont mind buying a sony again over samsung for my bd playback; although i have to admit that my future display is definitely going to be a samsung and no other brand! i never had any bad experiences with other sony products and the ylod issue with my ps3 was already expected when i read feedbacks & reviews before i bought the unit...
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QUOTE(Alan Yee @ Oct 29 2015, 11:21 AM)
If really want to get the full Bluray experience, recommend to get a Bluray home theater system for a complete blast.

The cheapest Bluray Home Theater System below RM1000:

Sony BDV-E2100 RM799/RM899
1000W 3D Bluray home theater
Previously this one only sold for RM699 at Tesco store before GST.

Sony BDV-E3100 RM899
1000W 3D Bluray home theater
Sold at SenQ/Senheng

Samsung HT-J5100K RM599/RM699/RM799
1000W Bluray home theater (non-3D)

Philips HTB 3520 (RM799)
1000W 3D Bluray home theater
Found this one at Giant Hyper Market. This is the best all rounder Bluray Home Theater, with also the smart tv apps, NFC/Bluetooth streaming.
Personally owned a Philips HTS 3562 a few year back and use it until today.

Also owned a 3D Bluray player last year, Philips BDP3480K, which is among the cheapest 3D Bluray player (RM300) at that time that still has the old composite video out and audio for old TV. (This is for my old CRT TV at home town)

Normally I don't play Bluray Disc. I stream media from my PC/Smartphone via DLNA to the HTS3562 for all the media stuff, normally are high quality H264 mp4 file for movie, or Full HD H264 music video, downloaded from Youtube.

The good thing on Bluray player is, you virtually can play anything on it regardless of format (even rmvb file). It can read media file from external hard disk. It also act as a very capable media streamer.

My minimum requirement for playback is the format must be at least H264 encoded, even 720p format is enough for me.
Then TV plays an important factor as well. Plasma TV still triumph down on picture quality. I owned a last generation 3D Plasma TV. Pretty satisfied on the PQ.

There is a cheap OLED from LG that sold for RM7999 (Full HD, 55", curved)
Wish more OLED is made for cheaper price in the future. Never has interest on 4K TV though.
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thanks bro for the info, appreciate it... thumbup.gif but i only need a bdp since i already have my own separate home theatre unit and speakers although they need to be upgraded pretty soon when budget allows. blush.gif

yup, that's a good thing about new bdp where they can playback most file formats on portable and also external hd... but myself, i am still that dude who collects and watch from "bluray discs".... oh by the way, i'm not really a fan of 3D especially for home media even though i actually own one movie in 3D bought from amazon because price is $5 cheaper than the non-3d one tongue.gif

no other makers want to produce OLED now for its niche premium price and also LG placed a high price tag for its patent/licence... so i've heard; well dont know whether that's true or not! hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fadthil @ Oct 29 2015, 05:52 PM)
thanks bro for the info, appreciate it...  thumbup.gif  but i only need a bdp since i already have my own separate home theatre unit and speakers although they need to be upgraded pretty soon when budget allows.  blush.gif

yup, that's a good thing about new bdp where they can playback most file formats on portable and also external hd... but myself, i am still that dude who collects and watch from "bluray discs".... oh by the way, i'm not really a fan of 3D especially for home media even though i actually own one movie in 3D bought from amazon because price is $5 cheaper than the non-3d one tongue.gif

no other makers want to produce OLED now for its niche premium price and also LG placed a high price tag for its patent/licence... so i've heard; well dont know whether that's true or not! hmm.gif
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Hmm.....
I'm not into videophile or audiophile, so can't provide any valuable comment.

Picture quality from Sony, Panasonic and Samsung bdp are ranked among the best performer by online reviewer, oven the cheaper model do perform well, though I never saw these player in action in store.
Just pick the model that you like.

Well, never has any issue with my Philips' bdp (both home theater used for 2 year or the single bdp for 1 year).


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post Nov 2 2015, 04:27 PM

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any bluray player must support BD MOVIE ISO 50GB
oppo 103 good but wont work ISO BD MOVIES to bad and USB 2.0 SLOW
old model oppo 93 esata faster then usb 2.0
i afford expensive like oppo high price also can

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post Nov 2 2015, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Nov 2 2015, 04:27 PM)
any bluray player must support BD MOVIE ISO 50GB
oppo 103 good but wont work ISO BD MOVIES to bad and USB 2.0 SLOW
old model oppo 93 esata faster then usb 2.0
i afford expensive like oppo high price also can
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this from google translate?
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Nov 2 2015, 04:40 PM)
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this from google translate?
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post Nov 3 2015, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Nov 2 2015, 07:09 PM)
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what i wrong
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Nothing wrong.
Just my English not that good. Can't understand what you trying to say
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Nov 3 2015, 09:09 AM)
Nothing wrong.
Just my English not that good. Can't understand what you trying to say
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i asking any bd player must support BD MOVIE ISO FILE 50GB
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post Nov 3 2015, 09:45 AM

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Reminds me of Yoda...

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Nov 3 2015, 09:45 AM)
Haha

Reminds me of Yoda...

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QUOTE(pakji @ Nov 3 2015, 09:42 AM)
i asking any bd player must support BD MOVIE ISO FILE 50GB
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I think no BD Player can play BD ISO FILE.
I think only some Full HD Media Player can play it, but don't know which brand.

There is a work around way, though need more time to extract the BD ISO FILE content to .m2ts file, but this take very long time.
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QUOTE(Alan Yee @ Nov 3 2015, 10:32 AM)
I think no BD Player can play BD ISO FILE.
I think only some Full HD Media Player can play it, but don't know which brand.

There is a work around way, though need more time to extract the BD ISO FILE content to .m2ts file, but this take very long time.
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Himedia H8 can play BD ISO file but no proper menu , must select from remote.

Currently own Sony bdp s5200 with no upscalling function.
I had 4k tv that had upscalling ability , it is worth to buy bd player that support upscalling function like sony bdp s7200 (rm1.8) but too expensive compare to samsung bd-h6500 (rm460) or upscalling function in tv is enough?
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QUOTE(Alan Yee @ Nov 3 2015, 10:32 AM)
I think no BD Player can play BD ISO FILE.
I think only some Full HD Media Player can play it, but don't know which brand.

There is a work around way, though need more time to extract the BD ISO FILE content to .m2ts file, but this take very long time.
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dont want extract because its long

QUOTE(shahruls @ Nov 3 2015, 11:49 AM)
Himedia H8 can play BD ISO file but no proper menu , must select from remote.

Currently own Sony bdp s5200  with no upscalling function.
I had 4k tv that had upscalling ability , it is worth to buy bd player that support upscalling function like sony bdp s7200 (rm1.8)  but too expensive compare to samsung bd-h6500 (rm460) or upscalling function in tv is enough?
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i still need Menu that best

last time Oppo 93 old model can play iso with E sata hard drive
nowdays oppo 103 removed e sata and wont work iso
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QUOTE(shahruls @ Nov 3 2015, 11:49 AM)
Himedia H8 can play BD ISO file but no proper menu , must select from remote.

Currently own Sony bdp s5200  with no upscalling function.
I had 4k tv that had upscalling ability , it is worth to buy bd player that support upscalling function like sony bdp s7200 (rm1.8)  but too expensive compare to samsung bd-h6500 (rm460) or upscalling function in tv is enough?
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The so called "upscalling" is a very subjective term. The term cover 2 area.

1. HDMI digital interface up conversion.
- So called common idea is, all content that pass through HDMI interface are being "upscaled", due to the digital interface that eliminate any signal loss caused by analog interface.
- So, literally, any player, be it DVD/BD/Media player, laptop, computer, smartphone, tablet that can output in HDMI interface do up conversion, and any TV that has HDMI interface do up convert on it's own too.
- This term more apply to the time when DVD player with HDMI is available, where those DVD player is said to up convert DVD picture to better quality thru digital interface. (no "up convert" being done if using composite cable)
- This is damn true, where the picture quality of DVD really improve if output via HDMI. I tested this on a cheap DVD player with HDMI, immediately I see the improvement, image is more sharp and color are much more accurate, detail are added. But then, I test it with a BD player by playing the same DVD disc, the quality result is the same with the cheap DVD player with HDMI, no more up conversion can be done, both look identical via HDMI.
- Just for fun, I switch back to the composite video output on the BD player (damn rare these day to get a BD player that still come with RCA output, eventually get this for old TV, but later the old TV dead, now replaced an LED LCD TV), immediately the image quality degrade a lot.


2. Any player and TV that apply image processing algorithm.
- Every BD player nowadays do pre-processing signal before output the video signal.
- Every flat panel TV that you can buy today actually do up conversion on every signal that they receive, no matter it is HDMI interface, component video interface or composite video interface.
- This very subjective to the processing algorithm, every player and TV's processing algorithm is not the same.
- Some doing a better job, some are doing worse.
- Bottom line, this normally gone unnoticed by most viewer, as some reviewer told, the standard definition (SD) resolution, 480i /480p is too soft to look on today TV, every TV actually look quite bad on SD, no matter how good the player or TV has aggressive processing. They do improved with processing, but the effect is not very obvious.
So, stay with something like Bluray BD disc, or high quality H264/H265 compression format guarantee highest video quality.
Normal SD Astro just look bad no matter if it is output using HDMI, only the HD channel look great.


For your case, it is more related to the later issue, where much video processing job is done on the 4K TV, rather than a normal BD player, that max can only output 1080p picture.

My advise is, no need go for that player yet, as native 4K BD content still very rare.
Your 4K TV will be doing just fine on every signal that it receive.

Only real 4K BD movie played on that Sony BDP S7200 will look noticeably improved.
If you still have a bunch of old 1080p BD movie, then it is not going to have any obvious improvement on upscaling.

At this website, do mention "There isn’t any more detail in the upscaled picturethan you can see in the native 1080p picture , so whether or not it looks better is entirely subjective."
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/4k-ultra-hd...caling-compared

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QUOTE(Alan Yee @ Nov 3 2015, 10:12 PM)
The so called "upscalling" is a very subjective term. The term cover 2 area.


2. Any player and TV that apply image processing algorithm.
- Every BD player nowadays do pre-processing signal before output the video signal.
- Every flat panel TV that you can buy today actually do up conversion on every signal that they receive, no matter it is HDMI interface, component video interface or composite video interface.
- This very subjective to the processing algorithm, every player and TV's processing algorithm is not the same.
- Some doing a better job, some are doing worse.
- Bottom line, this normally gone unnoticed by most viewer, as some reviewer told, the standard definition (SD) resolution, 480i /480p is too soft to look on today TV, every TV actually look quite bad on SD, no matter how good the player or TV has aggressive processing. They do improved with processing, but the effect is not very obvious.
So, stay with something like Bluray BD disc, or high quality H264/H265 compression format guarantee highest video quality.
Normal SD Astro just look bad no matter if it is output using HDMI, only the HD channel look great.
For your case, it is more related to the later issue, where much video processing job is done on the 4K TV, rather than a normal BD player, that max can only output 1080p picture.

My advise is, no need go for that player yet, as native 4K BD content still very rare.
Your 4K TV will be doing just fine on every signal that it receive.

Only real 4K BD movie played on that Sony BDP S7200 will look noticeably improved.
If you still have a bunch of old 1080p BD movie, then it is not going to have any obvious improvement on upscaling.

At this website, do mention "There isn’t any more detail in the upscaled picturethan you can see in the native 1080p picture , so whether or not it looks better is entirely subjective."
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/4k-ultra-hd...caling-compared
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Tq so much bro for detail explanation, i have to read twice to understand your point.
I agree , for 480p or sd content, no matter how great the upscalling capability or u got highest spec tv, it will not become 720p. Currently only has downloaded 4k sample video and i can see the details better compare to 1080p. So, I just wonder if upscalling from bd player will enhance upscalling ability that already in 4k tv.
I think better wait and buy 4k bd player with 4k disc , but don't know how much it will cost

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QUOTE(shahruls @ Nov 4 2015, 09:41 AM)
Tq so much bro for detail explanation, i have to read twice to understand your point.
I agree , for 480p or sd content, no matter how great the upscalling capability or u got highest spec tv, it will not become 720p. Currently only has downloaded 4k sample video and i can see the details better compare to 1080p. So, I just wonder if upscalling from bd player will enhance upscalling ability that already in 4k tv.
I think better wait and buy 4k bd player with 4k disc , but don't know how much it will cost
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both 4k bd player and 4k bd media already out there..
have a survey on this..not that expensive icon_rolleyes.gif

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