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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V59, The Orange Legion

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jimlim007
post Jan 5 2013, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jan 4 2013, 09:48 PM)
Direct inverse if you're using full frame. If crop, multiply by 1.5 then invert. So if 50mm on crop frame, it's 50x1.5=75, hence, 1/75, nearest will be 1/80s

It's a rule of thumb, if you manage to stable yourself more, you can go down lower.
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this SS i used in this morning fren wedding shoot in Aperture mode with flash gun.
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post Jan 6 2013, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jan 6 2013, 01:40 PM)
so does it work?
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hmm... here is my thought. it works, at least that SS cause no shake or blur images. but some how I cant shoot with f2.8 in some condition, I want to get the bokeh while maintain the SS, either A or S mode. I then shoot in M mode, and figure what will be the flash power require in manual fill-flash out to fit the f2.8 or to maintain the environment lighting....

i am failed in most shoot lol...because do not know what i am doing.
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post Jan 7 2013, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jan 6 2013, 04:09 PM)
What was your focal length? Direction of flash - bounced or direct?

Upload a sample of the shoot here to illustrate what you mean. If can, state why u think u failed, and what kind of correction do u think is necessary to get the result you want. Then we can judge if your remedy would work or not.
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few days later. tonight need to ps something...
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post Jan 7 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Jan 6 2013, 09:42 PM)
shoot iso 1000 kawtim...takut go high iso ka??? laugh.gif
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hmm... i takut, 800 sudah takut d sweat.gif
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post Jan 7 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 7 2013, 08:16 AM)
This is why I say some people pay so much for technology but refuse to use it.

All wanna go manual, manual, manual but have no idea what you're doing. How pro is that?

I shoot in A mode around 98% of the time. When I use the flash I put it in TTL mode 95% of the time. This means I allow the camera to do its job almost all the time. Why? Because I know most times the camera will do the job properly. So to save time and headache, I just use what's available in the camera. (I used A mode, notice flash kill ambient light; high iso -takut use; then ma use M mode lor; I need shoot more in low light to explore more, this is my 1st time shooting)

I use A mode because I want to control the aperture. I let the cam decide the shutter speed. If it's too low for the shot I want, then I do some adjustment. Otherwise I'm happy to let the cam do the work.

Shooting digital means you get instant feedback on your shot. If it does not come out the way you want then you can adjust the settings.

Simple rule of thumb means leave most things to the cam. I use A mode. If pic is too dark, I see what shutter speed the cam chose. If I can go lower without introducing hand shake or motion blur, then I switch to M mode and adjust the shutter speed accordingly. After that I switch back to A mode. Unless you are shooting in a studio where all the lights are under your control, you will run into different lighting situations. Why rack your brains trying to figure out which setting will work in which area? Let the cam do the work. If it does not come out to your liking, adjust from there.

When using flash, if the flash is too strong or weak in TTL and you don't want to adjust your shutter speed or aperture, then only adjust flash power manually. If you are always fiddling with the flash, you will be too busy with the flash to be taking pictures. You will miss a lot of moments. (that's why, you also switch to M mode when cant get and then switch back -miss a moment as well; my thought is left in M mode - manual flash, instead of switch Dial mode, will be easy to adjust flash power lol... but sadly may be lack of experience, not precise adjustment enough; I thought once I defined and fix ISO, SS, aperture, and manual flash out, it work in the whole floor... that is impossible as well)

Understand that ultimately as a photographer, your pictures is what matters. No one gives a hoot what settings you used to get a good picture. Stop fiddling with your gears and just get that darn picture already! (seriously, I start not luv the 1650SSM lol..., f2.8 cant feed me on bokehlicious FEEL, that 2stops create so diff bokeh level)
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well, kind of good experience for me in 1st time shooting.

almost forgot this issue i encountered: many times I half press shutter the camera cannot do auto focus lock!! I need to switch off camera and on back then it work back... does it relate to I switching between on-off flash frequently...? last thing encountered is flash gun not fire after i replaced AA batteries. I off flash and camera again to make it work again... does it related to I de-attach flash gun w/o off flash and camera?

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post Jan 7 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jan 7 2013, 10:13 AM)
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the green box aka auto mode is there for a reason laugh.gif
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what are you talking about??!! shooting in M mode will do have the green box as well. we are in M mode not Manual Focus.
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post Jan 8 2013, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Jan 8 2013, 04:50 PM)
might as well pakai a200 jer bro...technology sudah canggih pun mau takut ka???yennada!!!
see...even shootkk tembak 1000...nak takut apa if exposure spot on...capture the moment not fiddling with noise all those small2 things...hilang moment,how to ganti to customers???
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will try in future. this round i shoot all in raw, approximate 800 raw images.
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post Jan 10 2013, 06:01 AM

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Jan 9 2013, 11:09 PM)
me one full day doing video highlights for actual day, 2 battery half day, on A99
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rain drop portrait nice! may be i should try as well hmm.gif

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post Jan 11 2013, 02:34 PM

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anyone here did wedding event shoot? can gives some feedback...

1. typically how many shots you shoot for whole event chinese wedding or breakdown into below:
a) wedding eve - lao thiak meh (chinese)
b) brother day - departure, get bride, come back, kang teh,
c) wedding dinner


2. what type of scenery MUST never miss during the event
a) wedding eve - lao thiak meh : pray? sikat rambut?
b) brother day : games (definitely), house main door entrance? bride room entrance? exchange rings, kiss, circling bridal car?
c) wedding dinner: reception? yam seng? main table reunion shoot? fill champagne ? potong cake? shoot every table? candid shoot?

3. for critical shoot, how to ensure 0 mistake? (ie: group shoot no one closed eye); do you inspect the photo instant after the important shot? do you ask for take 2? (you know some those culture activity only do once)

4. how much you guys charge for whole event? (i know it depend on the work quality, how to justify a work quality)
a) wedding eve shoot
b) brother day - 730am - 2pm
c) wedding dinner - 7pm - 11pm

5. Do you shoot free for fren?

thanks!

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post Jan 11 2013, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 11 2013, 04:02 PM)
See my reply in bold below:
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Normally wedding is actual day only. Don't do the wedding eve thingy. More work but nothing much to take and people will expect more from you. Not a good idea.
I am agreed on this, i felt not really can shoot meaning stuff in the eve if shoot video might be diff

Typically the number of shots depends on you. Key here is to under-promise and over deliver. If you think you can get about 300 good shots, say that you deliver only 200 shots. When you give more at the end of the day, everybody happy.
actually this is 1st time i shoot, no doubt i weak and lack of experience, I did not do promise to my fren since i just to help for free and as well as take 1st experience, in fact i am quite pressure when his fren all did not up shoot and left me alone. for save, I shoot nearly 800 raws. i manage to get 110 photos in the whole event coverage (not counted tea ceremony photos); most of the photos are group photos. so, how many photos you guy deliver to client , 200pic?


Typically need to get some shots when the ji muis play games ler.. then need to get shots of the groom kissing the bride for first time ler.. then need to get shots of couple getting into car ler and when car means opening door oso need shots. Exchange rings means need to get shots ler..

Tea ceremony means need to get shots of all the elders ler.. (I feel this is the most boring part, same angle snap and snap....)

c) wedding dinner: reception? yam seng? main table reunion shoot? fill champagne ? potong cake? shoot every table? candid shoot?

Like what you said.. all need to take

3. for critical shoot, how to ensure 0 mistake? (ie: group shoot no one closed eye); do you inspect the photo instant after the important shot? do you ask for take 2? (you know some those culture activity only do once)

Group shots take 2 shots in quick succession ler. If worst come to worst photoshop lor. Swap open eyes for closed eyes lor.. Others.. get backup photog to help minimize chances of missing shots ler.. (hmm... 2 shot same group, such simple , but i did not practice all the time -christ sake)

If you ask me price... never ever work for less than RM 2k and always have one other trusted guy to back you up during shoot.
wow! 2k!!?? Do you have a 2k sample for reference, i would like to have a look the result of photos

Definitely NO NO NO! I think friends should charge even more!! Coz they will take advantage of you... serious.
lol....
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post Jan 11 2013, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Jan 11 2013, 07:51 PM)
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got photos let me visit, i would like to learn and benchmark my level, will it below average - average level- etc
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post Jan 12 2013, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Jan 12 2013, 09:17 PM)
I shoot for free for friends..and they don even give me an angpow for the help..some people really take for granted..u go there go do till sweat here and there..deliver nice photos along with a video..and, you get a little thanks..thats it..

From that onwards..i never bring camera to those ceremony...
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your condition is different with me. i promised to my fren fren to help and declared up front i am 1st time shooter. i am not confident photographer, too new! i never expect i am the only photographer in the event, since i have informed got other his other frens cover the event, but in actual day i found holy cow, -i am the only one shocking.gif I got felt the pressure in my mind while i did the shooting (what ppl will comment my photos after today sad.gif )

I tried to return the ang pao my fren given -i did not open it to know the $ and still left in my car drawer, push lai push ki doh.gif , bcos I know I did lot of mistake in the event, Shootkk alr watched and provided comments (thanks or his valuable inputs)

your case, your fren is really 'buat tak tau' lol... at least rm50 or 100 better than not thing doh.gif

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post Jan 13 2013, 02:55 PM

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OOF, i guess is DOF not properly place. ie; the champagne filing shot...



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post Jan 13 2013, 07:02 PM

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oh yeah, you guys reminded me to print photo. go out to do print some of my work of my fren wedding. see the color i adjusted in my screen monitor (never calibrated) got any differences and the sharpness.
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post Jan 13 2013, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 13 2013, 06:48 PM)
OOF good what.. no see the jerawat..
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epic!
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post Jan 13 2013, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Jan 13 2013, 07:32 PM)
u use 1.4 only ka porky???why didnt bump up to maybe around 2.8???
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will be insignificant to get the dof
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post Jan 13 2013, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Jan 13 2013, 08:51 PM)
jim, u sendingto fotozzoom?? becareful they make all pictures SUPER vivid.......i normally goto one in SS2
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i am not from big town old uncle. i from kampung tongue.gif just taken 8pcs 4r pictures. hmm... no matter what we did on the color adjustment, the shopper will going to tune it again
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post Jan 14 2013, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Jan 13 2013, 11:03 PM)
jimlim, if u got the chance to stop by at Harvey norman, go use their Fujifilm machine. RM 0.50 per 4R photo, u ownself tune b4 print via the kiosk.

I m very satisfied with the quality the other day I printed there. hahaha
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every HN will have it, or only selected HN shop? thank for the sharing.
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post Jan 14 2013, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Jan 14 2013, 09:33 AM)
what iso were u shooting that time???
insignificant???do elaborate more....
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f1.4 and f2.8, the dof still cant help in this shot (fill champagne), it need to be go down further f5-6, my guess
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post Jan 15 2013, 06:40 AM

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anyone here use variable ND? what brand to recommend, tiffen, b+w? def. not singray

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