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cowithgun
post Dec 28 2012, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 28 2012, 01:46 PM)
swing let him swing la, with MOE HT just dodge. I only concern his "walk of dead"


Added on December 28, 2012, 1:52 pm
me: with MOE HT + MOH ToN I am 7k armor + 697 AR brows.gif
imagine if we have a Barb's WC 20%+20% to replace the MOR monk  nod.gif


Added on December 28, 2012, 2:02 pm@gladfly what your IGN? I don't know if you are in my list...
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post Dec 28 2012, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 27 2012, 09:33 PM)
Wow..2am..go look for Quaza..he works till then too..lol.

Try selling some of your stuff to fund for new purchase ok? You got some really nice gears there but unfortunately, its not balanced. You emphasized too much on DPS thus sacrificed too much life sustain. A balance monk can deal damage and survive (what I mean by survice is stealing life back). Since you weapons are without life sustain stats, you have to find it from elsewhere, hence my recommendation of blackthorns. Both blackthorns will give you at least 800 LoH and with your extra speed, you will be able to replenish your life back quite fast.

But ultimately, you may have to drop one weapon for a life steal weapon as it is a necessity of you use Sweeping Wind. You can get life back from Life steal from sweeping wind but not from Life on Hit (LoH)
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sir can u sreenshot the weapon in ah that got buyout price ( got socket) if possible and which weapon i should replace with? Pls... biggrin.gif I can afford under 30m de.........
my current item list http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Igrix-1523/hero/29761622

This post has been edited by Igrix: Dec 28 2012, 03:10 PM
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post Dec 28 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Igrix @ Dec 28 2012, 03:05 PM)
sir can u sreenshot the weapon in ah that got buyout price ( got socket) if possible and which weapon i should replace with? Pls... biggrin.gif I can afford under 30m de.........
my current item list http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Igrix-1523/hero/29761622
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Wah dont call me sir wei... I never ask my staff to call me my Mr... or boss. Respect is earned not given. But I digress...

Well, your weapons are good but it leans towards DPS. If you want to game at MP5 or higher..you need life sustain, i.e Life on Hit/Life steal/Life per spirit spent/Life regen.

Now your EF is nice, low based DPS but has natural crit+socket. The shenlong is better, almost maxed Crit. If I was to chose, I will rather drop the shenlongs for the following reasons:-

Shenlongs works best as a set..hence you need to pair it with Relentless Assult. However, once paired, you are virtually stuck to it, i.e its either you use both or use none. Also, shenlongs will not benefit to the max with any +%elemental damage afflix on say SoJ, Inna's belt..etc. Lastly, Shenlongs has only 1 random roll, so, if you want to keep the Socket, you will never get a Life steal + Socket Shenlongs. Granted Relentless Assult comes with LoH, is great up to a certain DPS treshold where after that Life steal will be more effective.

Now, say you chose to follow my advise and get the Blackthorn pants + Amulet ( I have a set but they are not really super good can let u test if you want) you will gain alot of vit and LoH. So LoH aspect is covered, hence you should aim to get a weapon with Life Steal, preferably with socket + 2.8% min Life Steal.

My advise is to find a rare to pair your EF with the following stats:- At least 1k Mace/Spear with Dex/Life steal/Open socket. You cannot get a Crit damage + Life Steal + Open socket with your 30M budget. Why a mace/spear? Becasue the Echo Fury will boost the speed of the mace/spear to match your echo fury. i.e your echo fury is 1.41 Attacks Per Second (APS) with +0.21 aps, using a mace/spear will get you 1.2 + 0.21 = 1.41 ASP.

The other reason is that, mace and spear is cheaper as they swing slower. However, because they are slower, their base DPS tends to be higher. A 1k Mace/Spear with the stats I mentioned can be found for less than 20M. Dont buy at buyout, shop around. Be patient..it is your impatience that you have ended up where you are.

I tell you what, I have some gears which you can test..add me in game StudioT#6544 so I can let you test drive the blackthorn's set + a 1K mace with LS. And No I am not trying to sell you those gears smile.gif...
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post Dec 28 2012, 03:49 PM

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Or you can try 900dps Butcher sickle with open socket (OS) roll - it has native 51-55% CHD & 2.5-2.7%LS, with OS roll you are good. Don't go below 900dps. waste money.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-butchers-sickle
I tried to pair 1k dps EF (of course, with no OS no CHD) and the effect is good.

note: your EF is still not top notch but because of the CHD roll + OS, it can allows you to go to mp5

This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Dec 28 2012, 03:50 PM
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post Dec 28 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 28 2012, 03:49 PM)
Or you can try 900dps Butcher sickle with open socket (OS) roll - it has native 51-55% CHD & 2.5-2.7%LS, with OS roll you are good. Don't go below 900dps. waste money.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-butchers-sickle
I tried to pair 1k dps EF (of course, with no OS no CHD) and the effect is good.

note: your EF is still not top notch but because of the CHD roll + OS, it can allows you to go to mp5
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Ya..I forgot about Sickle..yup it would be a good choice. But 900 DPS with OS can get below 30M??? Susah wei....

p.s Actually he can cheat his way on the EF. Use average damage on all jewelries..easily can add 150 DPS to the EF. smile.gif

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 28 2012, 03:58 PM)
Ya..I forgot about Sickle..yup it would be a good choice. But 900 DPS with OS can get below 30M??? Susah wei....

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900dps I think yes, 920dps maybe through bid, 950dps and above no tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 28 2012, 02:23 PM)
wow~ can someone make vid for tonight show down?  thumbup.gif
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+1 wanna see also
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post Dec 28 2012, 06:21 PM

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Tonite would be the nite that I would fall for u..lol..feel like singing..

Juz wanna drop a question here..does it woth it to spend more gold for the extra vits if u think ur gear is good enuff?and do you feel does it worth it to drop ur damage for the vits?1 dex is like 90 damage

Would you trade 100 dext for 100 vit?which is 9k damage for 3500hp??of coz ur ehp will increase but does ur monk is efficient enuff if u doesn't have crazy gear??for a top tier monk maybe 9k damage is not much but for a mid to low tier monk would you treade ur damage for hp?


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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 28 2012, 03:41 PM)
Wah dont call me sir wei... I never ask my staff to call me my Mr... or boss. Respect is earned not given. But I digress...

Well, your weapons are good but it leans towards DPS. If you want to game at MP5 or higher..you need life sustain, i.e Life on Hit/Life steal/Life per spirit spent/Life regen.

Now your EF is nice, low based DPS but has natural crit+socket. The shenlong is better, almost maxed Crit. If I was to chose, I will rather drop the shenlongs for the following reasons:-

Shenlongs works best as a set..hence you need to pair it with Relentless Assult. However, once paired, you are virtually stuck to it, i.e its either you use both or use none. Also, shenlongs will not benefit to the max with any +%elemental damage afflix on say SoJ, Inna's belt..etc. Lastly, Shenlongs has only 1 random roll, so, if you want to keep the Socket, you will never get a Life steal + Socket Shenlongs. Granted Relentless Assult comes with LoH, is great up to a certain DPS treshold where after that Life steal will be more effective.

Now, say you chose to follow my advise and get the Blackthorn pants + Amulet ( I have a set but they are not really super good can let u test if you want) you will gain alot of vit and LoH. So LoH aspect is covered, hence you should aim to get a weapon with Life Steal, preferably with socket + 2.8% min Life Steal.

My advise is to find a rare to pair your EF with the following stats:- At least 1k Mace/Spear with Dex/Life steal/Open socket. You cannot get a Crit damage + Life Steal + Open socket with your 30M budget. Why a mace/spear? Becasue the Echo Fury will boost the speed of the mace/spear to match your echo fury. i.e your echo fury is 1.41 Attacks Per Second (APS) with +0.21 aps, using a mace/spear will get you 1.2 + 0.21 = 1.41 ASP.

The other reason is that, mace and spear is cheaper as they swing slower. However, because they are slower, their base DPS tends to be higher. A 1k Mace/Spear with the stats I mentioned can be found for less than 20M. Dont buy at buyout, shop around. Be patient..it is your impatience that you have ended up where you are.

I tell you what, I have some gears wh ich you can test..add me in game StudioT#6544 so I can let you test drive the blackthorn's set + a 1K mace with LS. And No I am not trying to sell you those gears smile.gif...
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Erm tonite 2 u got online ma? Can teach me how to fix my gears cos I not really understand what u guy saying. I m newbie le... I donno how to bid item that suits me... Need u teach ingame can ma? I already sent fren request liao...


Added on December 28, 2012, 7:55 pmLast 2 days spent RM200 for the gold but what I get is terrible disappoint me. Can't even ply in mp1 also, lol. What a joker lo me:(

This post has been edited by Igrix: Dec 28 2012, 07:55 PM
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post Dec 28 2012, 08:08 PM

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just got back, had dinner, maybe ill live stream and auto record etc w


Added on December 28, 2012, 8:11 pm
aww yea just got 10m from some shit rare necklace LOL!

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 28 2012, 08:11 PM
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post Dec 28 2012, 08:21 PM

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Ok T.T so lucky lo u
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post Dec 28 2012, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Igrix @ Dec 28 2012, 07:51 PM)
Erm tonite 2 u got online ma? Can teach me how to fix my gears cos I not really understand what u guy saying. I m newbie le... I donno how to bid item that suits me... Need u teach ingame can ma? I already sent fren request liao...


Added on December 28, 2012, 7:55 pmLast 2 days spent RM200 for the gold but what I get is terrible disappoint me. Can't even ply in mp1 also, lol. What a joker lo me:(
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Yeah..just had a game with cow, thales and yuhhaur...fun guys to play with smile.gif.

Sure, I'll be online tonite and I'll add you..what time you will be on?

You 113k DPS cannot play MP1? Big problem there lor....
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post Dec 28 2012, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(fallenking @ Dec 28 2012, 06:21 PM)
Tonite would be the nite that I would fall for u..lol..feel like singing..

Juz wanna drop a question here..does it woth it to spend more gold for the extra vits if u think ur gear is good enuff?and do you feel does it worth it to drop ur damage for the vits?1 dex is like 90 damage

Would you trade 100 dext for 100 vit?which is 9k damage for 3500hp??of coz ur ehp will increase but does ur monk is efficient enuff if u doesn't have crazy gear??for a top tier monk maybe 9k damage is not much but for a mid to low tier monk would you treade ur damage for hp?
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if u wanna farm high MP, even with 550/5500 resist/armor, u still need at least 40k HP. if u have less than that, u should trade for vit...
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gladfly.. i need advice on the monk department too smile.gif can you help?
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post Dec 28 2012, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 28 2012, 08:08 PM)
just got back, had dinner, maybe ill live stream and auto record etc w


Added on December 28, 2012, 8:11 pm
aww yea just got 10m from some shit rare necklace LOL!
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sheet necklace can get 10mil! shakehead.gif lucky u biggrin.gif

i sell most legs at 50k gold doh.gif
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 28 2012, 08:28 PM)
sheet necklace can get 10mil!  shakehead.gif lucky u biggrin.gif

i sell most legs at 50k gold  doh.gif
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i dont even get legendaries laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 28 2012, 08:26 PM)
Yeah..just had a game with cow, thales and yuhhaur...fun guys to play with smile.gif.

Sure, I'll be online tonite and I'll add you..what time you will be on?

You 113k DPS cannot play MP1? Big problem there lor....
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ya! fun! your guys are awesome! we party again later!

ps: i got a feeling... mempo with 6cc will come soon later tonight... mauahhaha

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Dec 28 2012, 08:30 PM
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8.5m after tax, and + whatever i have, thats 11m. i wonder if i can get a nats boots
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post Dec 28 2012, 08:31 PM

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I go hit mob, then they use fire/ poison/arcane sentry then few hits I gg liao. Me die dao dulan so go buy gold nia. Erm what urs battlenet Id? Me de is igrix#1523. I online 2 am tonite
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QUOTE(AvenueX @ Dec 28 2012, 08:27 PM)
gladfly.. i need advice on the monk department too smile.gif can you help?
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Sure can, post your profile

And, what do you want to achieve?

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