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zaakath
post Jul 31 2006, 11:40 AM

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Yup I'm an archer too, just that I find we are tissue papers when mobs get to you so I position myself as support damage. Titans and Rogues going to outdamage you and titans have almost double your hp. Maybe I am doing something wrong dunno but even with the passive skills no way am I outdamaging a titan and rogue base on my experince partying with them. What I have done is for every 5 dex I put 1 in int. I position myself as backup healer, but that is how I always play my characters in MMORPG, verstaility so I do scarifice either damage or healing but useful enough in a party and good enough solo. So far its working and I just know when to time my heals in party and yes still have ample mp. Our special arrow attacks are just to slow and usually I use as alpha strike then i rely on the haste spell we get.
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:12 PM

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good point there, we fail in sense of damage compare to titan or rogue, they just simply good in killing, but i still try to master more on full dex and all archery passive so that it would be easier for me to solo. My frens was not aways around to leveled together thou... smile.gif

I was thinking, is there any interesting skill an archer will get after changing job? Cause pure crit + damage + heal was a little boring. lol
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(zaakath @ Jul 31 2006, 11:40 AM)
Yup I'm an archer too, just that I find we are tissue papers when mobs get to you so I position myself as support damage.  Titans and Rogues going to outdamage you and titans have almost double your hp. Maybe I am doing something wrong dunno but even with the passive skills no way am I outdamaging a titan and rogue base on my experince partying with them. What I have done is for every 5 dex I put 1 in int. I position myself as backup healer, but that is how I always play my characters in MMORPG, verstaility so I do scarifice either damage or healing but useful enough in a party and good enough solo. So far its working and I just know when to time my heals in party and yes still have ample mp. Our special arrow attacks are just to slow and usually I use as alpha strike then i rely on the haste spell we get.
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ya, the archery skills are way too slow to be execute and be efficient enough to be a 'hit -and-run' type of archer...i'm an archer/healer as well and i mainly focus on my healing skills as i plan to hybrid my character into a supporting character when i change job later on...

well, i found that self heal and party heal are quite useful in different situation and when combined with raise mana, u got almost unlimited supply of mana at your disposal...

ya, i know that rogues are way too powerful in this game...but i think other class also have their advantages as well...cuz i often see rouges sitting on the ground resting while archers and knights can go on killing non stop...

if the ppl behing last chaos notice this problem, i guess there will be another patch out soon to fix it...or this game will be flooded with rouges everywhere...just like gunners and templars in ryl2...
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jul 31 2006, 12:12 PM)
good point there, we fail in sense of damage compare to titan or rogue, they just simply good in killing, but i still try to master more on full dex and all archery passive so that it would be easier for me to solo. My frens was not aways around to leveled together thou... smile.gif

I was thinking, is there any interesting skill an archer will get after changing job? Cause pure crit + damage + heal was a little boring. lol
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i saw the second job skills in some forum and saw a few nice skills for archers...but if the execution of it is still as slow as the normal arrow skills, then wat's the point of using it? and delay is too long for the skills to be effective..
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:29 PM

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True, most archer active spell have too long casting time, and the effect are only slight nuke which is quite useless.

I hope for something that was more devastating since after job change, those who follow the archer path should be more on killing that supporting. smile.gif
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:38 PM

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how to reveal them wor? bug lai de?
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post Jul 31 2006, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Jul 31 2006, 08:51 AM)
... But indeed their damage is very high which is abit unrealistic. Even default damage is higher than a titan.
Which is why before this I had pointed out that rogues are supposed to be fast 'finishers' in 1 hit moves (skills) instead of having a high 'default damage'. Titans are similar to fighters or any other typical pure brute and might-based chars in MMORPGs so yeah it's a weird thing if titans are to be outdamaged in normal circumstances.

I don't know really... But I highly suspect that the imbalances are due to the arguably faulty char stats. Example like dex don't really work for knights. I disagree on having stats' effects differentiated on ALL classes when it's really skills that matter.

And asura_86 has a VERY critical point there... The last thing I want in LC is a channel full of rogues rclxub.gif. Beginning to see a real build-up of them in k6.

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post Jul 31 2006, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Suikoden @ Jul 31 2006, 12:38 PM)
how to reveal them wor? bug lai de?
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There suppose to be a potions selling in the magic shop that reveal all invisible thing that is 10m around you. The cost of that potion is 8k in taiwan server. I not sure here the potion is available or not.

And regarding the attack in invisible, I think its just a one blow thing and it will reveal yourself. I do see rogue is good on tanking small groups of mobs as I will doubt their ability of tanking mobs up to 20 to 30 in size without even using pots or skill.

And also there are skill some skill which is not available for 2nd job. The 1 I notice on gamemas is the 2 skill which add damages for temple knights which I see it quite an important skill. 1 of the skill is a passive skill which add 120 damage where as the other 1 is a buff skill which add 50 attack. Image the lack of 170 attack on current temple knight which is really going to kill the char.
zaakath
post Jul 31 2006, 11:31 PM

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Well i tried a xbow rogue tonight see how she would do with zhang healing as back up. I was killing jags and sasquatch at 7 not needing a heal or sitting down. Way too powerful but then again it still early will go on experimenting. I was killing jags before it hit me...sasquatch prolly got one or two hits and interspace with with jags my health never went below 260 out of 317
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post Aug 1 2006, 12:24 AM

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A crossbow rogue will always be better as it cant shoot from range. Especially on early mobs with little hp, usually rogue can take it down before it can reach the rogue.
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post Aug 1 2006, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Aug 1 2006, 12:24 AM)
A crossbow rogue will always be better as it cant shoot from range. Especially on early mobs with little hp, usually rogue can take it down before it can reach the rogue.
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btw, rouge's xbow's dmg is higher than healer's bow?
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post Aug 1 2006, 07:51 AM

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Hello everyone does anyone have login problems? i cant login even changing my password .
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post Aug 1 2006, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(Boyboy @ Aug 1 2006, 07:51 AM)
Hello everyone does anyone have login problems? i cant login even changing my password .
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Yes the login system got problem.
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post Aug 1 2006, 10:13 AM

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archer can silent people....
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i also cant login
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post Aug 1 2006, 10:57 AM

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so early in the morning already tryin to log in? no class or work meh?
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post Aug 1 2006, 12:41 PM

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Chked bk at 12.43pm just now and guess what?

ROLLBACK FTW!!! [~.~]"""""

Levelled to 21 just 8 hours ago and got back to 20 COMPLETE with 52% xp bar... *sigh* the amazing wonders of Open Beta no doubt.
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post Aug 1 2006, 12:46 PM

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omg, i log off yesterday at 1am, dunno if affected or not...
this is really a pist off.... degrading of the level... waaa...
eq8all
post Aug 1 2006, 12:51 PM

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I've read the official announcements about some banned IDs. Allegedly it's related to pw sharing and / or 'deliberate' obstuction by those affected players towards GMs' duties. Now how the hell does that make sense is beyond me as well.

Not to be paranoid, but it looks like some LC players' accs may have been 'compromised'. Perhaps CubeTech might want to be more transparent.

And they could've at least included the rollback as well in the announcement?

EDIT: Yeah an update now doh.gif
* SS of their representative's post at LCdotorg forums.

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HD error >.<: Someone should tell them to upgrade all db hd to Western Digital brand =p

This post has been edited by eq8all: Aug 1 2006, 02:30 PM
sniperwolf
post Aug 1 2006, 09:04 PM

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You guys got any problem logging in? I already time out few times at the char selection menu.
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post Aug 1 2006, 11:34 PM

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Wow they still haven't got around to settle the issue yet? Just got back and yeah I got stuck at server selection, only to cancel to come out and time out several times at login too.

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