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post Dec 10 2012, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 8 2012, 11:24 PM)
7. The efficiency
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Efficiency is a measure of how much of the power a PSU draws from the wall actually reaches the computer. Thus if a PSU is 80% efficient, and is drawing 375W from the wall, only 300W will reach the computer, and the rest will be given off as heat.
the above part, it's actually the other way around. it's not wrong at all because it really is about % of power draw reaching the computer.

i would have put it .....

If a computer drains 400w, then an 80% efficiency PSU would theoretically draw 500w from the wall.

because it's from the components, telling the PSU what they need, and the PSU then draw from the wall.

anyway, nice thread pinned.
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post Dec 11 2012, 12:50 AM

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in case you guys didn't know yet - i have an ESTIMATOR available http://www.goldfries.com/power-supply-watt...n-graphic-card/

there's also a PSU wattage calculator and the above on my Facebook page last time, I've disabled temporarily due to HTTPS issues. biggrin.gif


Added on December 11, 2012, 12:51 amand yes, I'm aware I haven't update the graphic card list. tongue.gif
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post Jun 17 2013, 06:59 PM

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guys - just to clarify.

As long as PSU has detachable cables, they're MODULAR PSU.

Semi-modular PSU are still MODULAR PSU, just as Full-modular PSUs are.

smile.gif Please don't ever go around saying Semi-modular is not modular.

In the past, it's always been called modular. Just that with recent development - 2 new terms appeared - SEMI Modular / FULL Modular to differentiate those with ATX cable being detachable.
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post Jul 31 2013, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jul 28 2013, 01:18 AM)
assuming all other hardwares are same. will upgrading to a higher wattage but more efficient psu consume more electricity?

eg from a bronze 650W to platinum 860W
it depends on the PSU upgraded to.

say your load is at 350w.

for 650w, your 350w is 53% power load
for 860w, your 350w is only 40% power load

going by the graph below (for example)

user posted image

it makes no difference.

but the efficiency improves at around 45%.

should you aim for 45%? no, waste of time.

the graph is exaggerated.

if you mark those points, the rated efficiency difference is like 0.5% despite the curve shown.

furthermore your computer isn't on full load all the time so you're on average, still stuck on the 20% load part.
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post Aug 8 2013, 02:33 PM

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good budget, just stretch it a bit and you can get a Seasonic 620W M12II
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post Dec 16 2013, 10:08 AM

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CX500 is old stuff. I don't think you can find it already.
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post Dec 27 2013, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 16 2013, 03:15 PM)
Not cap Ayam, but the fact is the Real Power series isn't a decent unit....  CX series aren't good either...  You are paying for the Corsair brand only..
Most likely the unit is overheating is the fact that the PSU fan used isn't decent, or the fan controller itself is bad. tongue.gif
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really?

my CX500 served me for years and served me really well.

to backup my experience, here's an article from THW.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-...ze,3587-12.html

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The CX500 would be close to perfect, actually, if there wasn't an issue with its short hold-up time. All in all, this is decent budget-oriented PSU.


HWS also http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cor...ply-Review/1284
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post Dec 27 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 27 2013, 10:24 AM)
Correct though you need to know the fact that:
There are multiple variants of the unit, i.e.:
Yes, I'm aware that there are multiple variants.

It would have been more helpful if you just included a few words to highlight as what you highlighted.

It's exactly like what you said,

QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 27 2013, 10:24 AM)
Again, it's a budget unit, so don't expect nice performance from a cheap unit...


and exactly like the one in your link.

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So there you have its an cheap PSU made and meant for non stressfull tasks like your basic office/media/web browsing PC´s


which in my opinion doesn't make it not good.

interestingly a lot of people also highlighted FSP Hexa 500w and all for gaming but from my personal test, it didn't handle well when I run an R9 280X on full load for long period while my Corsair CX500 and Corsair VS550 could do it with no issue at all.

I'm going to throw the same test on my FSP Hexa units again soon. Since I have 2 units of it, I'll get to see whether it's the same across multiple products.
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post Dec 27 2013, 12:01 PM

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let's see how soon my VS550 dies. biggrin.gif Stressing it quite a fair bit.

my CX500 die already, after 1 - 2 years usage, not full load but somehow the ATX part melted and 12V is under delivery.
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post Jun 6 2014, 02:28 AM

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I wouldn't worry too much about PSU. Most of them are ok for general usage, it's those who run on high load and such (Eg overclockers) then the demand would be more into those finer details.
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post Aug 14 2014, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Aug 1 2014, 11:13 AM)
BTW, Newegg forums do have a PSU tier list:
https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/compu...81/t/45344.aspx  (Tom's Hardware PSU tier list is most likely sourced from this link) icon_idea.gif
but hor, that one is 2008.

Many things would've changed through half a decade.

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post Sep 29 2014, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Sep 29 2014, 10:20 PM)
Just not recommended to push more than 550W for lower grade PSU. It's fine running your HD6950.
wattage is just one part. a typical user won't even reach 400w, even with 250w card and 100w cpu.

the issue is more about constant load, in some cases even running a burn in test on graphic card alone would trip the PSU.

RM 150 PSU, regardless of what brand, I wouldn't dare to put them on 24/7 full load like say folding@home and such. nothing more than gaming.
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QUOTE(jonnyGURU @ Nov 9 2014, 08:56 AM)
Like TristanX said.. the 750W would be enough.

And PSUs aren't only efficient at 50%+ load anymore.  Now that 99% of the (quality) PSUs out there use a resonant LLC topology, the efficiency is fairly flat line across all loads.
biggrin.gif Welcome to the other side of the world!

Yup, efficiency is pretty much flat across all loads for quality PSU.

Example :
FSP Aurum PT 1200 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=...Story3&reid=398
Seasonic SS-1050XM2 1050W http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=...Story3&reid=401
Corsair HX1000i 1000W http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=...Story3&reid=394
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post Nov 23 2014, 08:33 PM

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Even a 300w would suffice for that, get a good 400w would work just fine.

can try the FSP Hexa 450w / 550.
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post Nov 29 2014, 02:08 AM

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acceptable is one thing but can you be sure that the distributor wouldn't just abandon it overnight?

I know FSP, Seasonic and Corsair's distributors doesn't seem so but I can't say the same for Antec.
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post May 17 2015, 04:00 PM

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That FSP Hexa would work just fine.
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post May 17 2015, 04:03 PM

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I think the AeroCool KCAS works just fine but brand vs brand, FSP would be the better one. They're very reputable across the globe.
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QUOTE(st4Lk3rz @ Jan 25 2016, 02:15 AM)
Try not to skimp on PSU. Due to the fact that if your PSU fails, it might short out your other hardware.

Can opt for FSP HEXA+ 550W - RM 189
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It's funny when I see "DO NOT SKIMP" and at the same time recommending the lowest of the lowest of low in FSP's range of PSU.

A good 300W can handle Xeon CPU and 750 Ti easily.

A Xeon 1231V3 and 750 Ti on full load doesn't even touch 66% the capacity of what a good 300W can deliver and a good 300W

A Silverstone SFX 300W as this http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=458 would still be of higher quality than the FSP Hexa+ 550W.
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QUOTE(whiteflame66 @ Mar 23 2016, 11:50 PM)
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Not worth doing at this point of time.
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QUOTE(AceKendy @ Mar 29 2016, 05:15 PM)
Currently facing a weird problem with my crossfire setup on my old rig, at times my system will automatically disconnect my crossfire without my knowledge (it happen several times now).
not PSU issue.

have you tried other CFX cable?


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