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post Oct 9 2013, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 9 2013, 10:39 PM)
I guess I just have a lot of practice...
Yeah, those can be real time-wasters. I like linear programming though because it's just a straight line. Mod math graphs are HORRIBLE. Curves are not my thing. Yeah, I do all the questions and graphs. smile.gif
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What about ambiguous cases and sketching triangles in S.O.T ?
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post Oct 10 2013, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 10 2013, 10:15 PM)
Don't be worried! A good karangan doesn't necessarily depend on the number of pages. Depending on your handwriting, 4 pages can be quite a lot. I write 4 pages and that's about 1.2k words. (Probably not A LOT, but it's a relatively good length).

As long as you are writing with good language, good points and good elaboration, you should be good to go! 80/100 is pretty good! My teacher told me that usually in SPM, 23/30 will become 26/30. To get A+ for SPM, she said if you get at least 105 for both papers, it's fine. (She marks the papers so I trust her.)
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At least 105 in P2 ?
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post Oct 11 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 10 2013, 11:34 PM)
92 could be lenient. My teacher said that people rarely get above 87 during SPM, and those who do are VERY, VERY good. Maybe you are that good!

In my experience, karangan for section A does not have a length issue. If you're worried, 5-7 sentences in one paragraph for section A is not that long. You only need to hurai 3 isi anyway. So it still keeps within the 350-400 word range.
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I can assure you that 90+ isn't very rare . A Ketua Pemeriksa provided us with answer scripts [ re-typed ] , bounded in a folio-like format . There are about 30 sample karangan's ( Bahagian B ) and all scored above 90 . After reading all of those , I can tell you that examiners want to look at length and ungkapan-ungkapan menarik , not so much about the strength of your supporting points . Most of them were rambles , they went on and on , beating around the bush , but what made these karangan's stand out were their range of words used . You must be really good at " goreng-ing " to score in BM 1 , that's all I can say . But a candidate will never get 100 in his/her Bahagian B Karangan , that's for sure .

I've read your General Pembukaan and Penutup . I like them , short and succinct , but they sound familiar . Which brings me to a point :

For students who want to push their Bahagian B Karangan to 90+ , try coming up with your own examples . Realise that an examiner will read hundreds of scripts ; the same structure and cliche 'pendahuluan' , 'penutup' and even 'kata-kata menarik' can be daunting --- try to improvise ! Come up with your own choice of words , statements , and quotes .

Inserting quotes into your karangan can really increase the length , and make it sound more interesting . Try it . Memorise about five so you can place at least one in your perenggan isi . I just thought about this idea today , when preparing for school in the morning . SPM does that to you . biggrin.gif Inspirations here and there , when you're short of time .

Also , watch out for tatabahasa mistakes . I know that when writing karangan at SPM level , we tend to write so much that tatabahasa doesn't matter anymore . Hence , you have phrases like ' di kalangan ' , ' pada masa kini ' , ' marcapada ini ' , ' di peringkat ' , ' daripada segi ' , and what-not cropping up . Try to minimise tatabahasa errors . While examiners may overlook or even ignore most of them if they are not too serious ( especially in Bahagian A where tatabahasa errors are usually ignored , they mark by impression ) , it's best that you try to write with correct grammar , to prevent ' ayat lewah ' and ' ayat tidak gramatis ' .

Since some of you shared your methods to generate a enough words for an appropriate-length essay , here's mine . Bear in mind this method is probably familiar to N.S students as it's proposed by a conglomerate of GC BM's in N.S .

Method for isi : IMBaKUP

ISI - Your main point . You can state this deductively , or inductive ; depends on your preference , and how much you want to vary your way of introducing points .

MENGAPA ? A question to help you generate your first huraian . Ask yourself , WHY [ ISI ] ?


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gaimana ? A question to help you generate your second huraian . Ask yourself , HOW [ ISI ] ?

KESAN - What if [ ISI ] doesn't work out ? What if [ ISI ] works out ? How will [ ISI ] pan out in the future ?

PENEGASAN - What same of you may call [ Kesimpulan Kecil ] . Reiterate your stand . This is extremely important to divert the examiner's attention back to the main point , if your huraian's have diverged from the main point . A good penegasan will reinforce your stand and also trick your examiner into believing that you had done well to support your main points with suitable supporting details .

UNGKAPAN - Throw in some good quotes , interesting phrases or peribahasa that you might remember . You can place these in between your huraian's as well .

Remember that you needn't follow the order . M , Ba , K , U can switch places . And for each M , Ba , K , U , you can add more than one ; you can ask the questions several times and provide different answers --- making your karangan long in a short period of time . That's it for now . smile.gif

mingissms , here are my concerns :

Your technique can be used for Q2 and Q3 [ assuming that we ignore Q4 and Q5 ] , because Q1 normally wants points from perspektif 'diri sendiri' .

But with Q2 and Q3 , it isn't always 'Langkah-langkah' or 'Kesan-kesan' . With the fact that not all Q2 and Q3 questions are about 'masalah' in mind , I'm interested to know how you'd come up with pendahuluan's or even isi's for questions like these :

1 . Huraikan faedah-faedah yang anda peroleh dengan menguasai kemahiran ICT [N06]
2 . Sediakan teks ceramah 'Menghargai Jasa Ibu Bapa' [N06]
3 . Tuliskan teks syarahan 'Rukun Negara Membentuk Rakyat Berkualiti' [N07]
4 . Jelaskan kebaikan bekerja lima hari seminggu . [N07]
5 . Jelaskan ciri-ciri sebuah petempatan idaman anda sekeluarga . [N08]
6 . Sediakan teks syarahan yang bertajuk 'Pertanian Merupakan Sebuah Perniagaan' [J12]
7 . Bincangkan pertumbuhan saluran TV [J12]

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post Oct 11 2013, 03:26 PM

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Thank you very much .

But for the ICT question , it states 'Anda' . So you can't use ibu bapa / kerajaan , etc .

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post Oct 11 2013, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(kangaroo96 @ Oct 11 2013, 06:24 PM)
Hello, I believe many of you are using the SUCCESS book for Biology right? I have a question here.

On page 185(I'm not sure whether it holds true for the new edition or not), it's about the experiment on effect of light intensity on the rate of photosyntesis. I have a question on the procedure.

For the fourth step, it says like this:
A clean oblique cut is made with a sharp razor near the lower end of the Hydrilla sp. stem under water. (You may have to cut the end of the stem several times until gas bubbles emerge rapidly)

What does it mean actually? hmm.gif
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Cutting the stem obliquely means slanting the blade when cutting . You will need to cut it rapidly several times for a gas bubble to form as you may not get it at first .
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post Oct 11 2013, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 11 2013, 05:15 PM)
The way I rationalise it, I get the benefit of being able to communicate with my parents overseas. I also get the benefit of being able to join online programmes held by the government. I get the benefit of being able to attend a sekolah bestari and also watch TV online. I thought I rationalised it quite clearly in the short point form I gave you, but guess not. Sorry!
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I see . I get it now . Sorry for the confusion . Thanks for the tips , I have more insights into writing karangan right now to add to my karangan writing arsenal . As for the last few points , I may find it a little difficult to 'huraikan' them .
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post Oct 11 2013, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 11 2013, 07:10 PM)
Our school won't be attending the Moral and SJ workshop this Sunday since the school won't pay for the bus. sad.gif  Was hoping for some insights on PM answering techniques and some SJ tips.

Anyways, since Growth and Reproduction came out twice in the past 2 years, is it safe to assume that it won't come out this year in Biology SPM?

BTW, @MaximR , I was absent when my class was doing the SBP BM paper in school, but I borrowed the paper from my friend. What problem were you talking about? I don't have the answer script right now, did you mean the answer script provided answers that were irrelevent?
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Plant Reproduction may come out , it has never appeared , but has appeared numerous times in trial papers .

Yes , the Isi Tersurat provided had long winded explanations that I thought were irrelevant , but required in the answer scheme .
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post Oct 11 2013, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(chun96 @ Oct 11 2013, 09:50 PM)
Do you guys really answer the questions in the trial papers or just read through the answers?
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Answer them .
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post Oct 12 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 12 2013, 11:37 AM)
I'll look into plant reproduction  smile.gif  Just read the answer scheme. Yep, my answers were simply in comparison, but I guess as long as it's "munasabah" it will still be accepted?
I read the questions, I think of the answers in my mind then I check the answers. To each their own.
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No , I meant Isi Tersurat for rumusan . Sorry if I said Isi Tersirat .
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 12 2013, 04:19 PM)
Err, you said isi tersurat. Anyways, I meant my answers still carry the same point as the answers provided, even if they lacked the detail. Its still munasabah I guess. Even if I only managed to get 5 out of 6 isi.
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No , for Rumusan , your Isi Tersurat must be exactly the same as the ones in the mark scheme . This , I'm sure of .
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 12 2013, 03:54 PM)
Hi, I'm going for Sunway's January intake. Deadline for registration of Sunway is 15th December for scholarship recipients, so I think registering before that would be safe. Taylor's is currently open for registration, and they have an open day on the 19th of October. It would be good to check out the open days of any colleges you are interested in, or just go there when you're free to talk to their course advisers (most colleges have people there to help you make the right decision) and scope out the campus.
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Not banking on the bursary , then ?
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 12 2013, 05:25 PM)
Shorter version of the answers is not accepted? shakehead.gif
Well, if she managed to get the Sunway Pre-U scholarship, she could enter earlier. When the results are out, the bursary can take effect? You would be paying reduced fees for the 3 months I guess.
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Nope . I've personally called a Ketua Pemeriksa to confirm this . That's why it's important to choose the short isi's .
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 12 2013, 05:34 PM)
Noted. Thanks.

By the way MaximR, what are your plans after SPM? Pretty much how you'll be spending the 3-4 months before results are out.
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I think I've been stressed , for like 5 years now . My main aim after PMR ( even before the results were out ) was SPM .

Finding peace would be it . I'm not in a hurry to enroll for a January Intake PreU course . I just want to let loose , to go out with friends more , explore new places , try to enjoy the stillness that surrounds me , meditate more often , read more books --- learn things that I haven't been able to learn ; like more philosophy , art , music and literature . To drive around my kampung , to just see things ; and immerse myself in those moments . Oh , and , SLEEP more , like sleeping every single time , if the there's opportunity to do so . laugh.gif

I'll be letting loose for a couple of months . Only then would I start delving into books for A-Levels / STPM , and plan on where to study , how to get funding , what to do if I don't get funding , etc .

For now , it's about preparing for SPM at a very relaxed , procrastinator's pace . I think I've worked enough , I think we all did .
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 12 2013, 09:26 PM)
Belanja wei rclxms.gif
I write in passive.

Example :

1) The apparatus is set up as shown in Diagram 1.
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I'd recommend active , because you're planning the experiment. , and SPM mark schemes have them in active voice .
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 13 2013, 10:42 AM)
Hmm... my Biology past year answer goes like this :

1) A student is chosen and intructed to empty his bladder before the start of the experiment.
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Yea, I wrote that with Physic in mind.
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Lets just say that the past year book was written with the intention of not directly copyrightng mark schemes as it's prohibited .
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 14 2013, 02:54 PM)
For Moral, how do you guys answer the "jelaskan" structure questions? I dug through this thread a bit but it seemed like there was no definite answer (or maybe I missed it.)

The way I do it is (nilai) + (watak) + (one kata kunci) + (short huraian).

Example: nilai rasional. Ali perlulah berfikir dengan wajar dengan tidak menghisap rokok.

Also, are there official kata kunci? The ones I'm using differ a bit from what some of you guys are using.

What happens if I'm writing a definisi but instead of "serta" I write "dan"?
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For structured , do this :

Nilai X . Watak [perlu/harus/mesti/ada , depending on the situation] + KK1/KK2 + Stem Soalan

Note : Stem Soalan is not needed for full marks . The requirement was removed in the year 2010 . But we tend to write it to feel good inside . laugh.gif Only one KK , KK1/KK2 is needed for full marks . Some students write all , some write one , but that doesn't affect the marks . Some write definisi , which is fine too as the KK's are in the definisi .

Example :

Nilai rasional . Ali boleh berfikir tentang keburukan menghisap rokok .

As for the KK , post yours here so we can cross-check . There is an official list of KK , but those are provided to examiners only . Normally , teachers would tweak the KK a bit for students to facilitate in answering essay questions . Some are longer , some are shorter . It's best to refer to a list provided by a seasoned examiner .

If you interchange serta with dan , if serta is in the KK , you won't get marks . If serta is not in the KK , you will get full marks . For definisi questions you can provide KK only for definisi and score full marks . But A+ students won't take the risk , you get what I mean ? tongue.gif

An interesting thing to note :

Last year , there weren't any 'jelaskan' , 'terangkan' , or 'huraikan' questions in SPM Pendidikan Moral , only 'maksud nilai' and KBKK questions for the structured part . So students only needed to use their answering techniques for the essay section .
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Oct 14 2013, 04:14 PM)
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THANK YOU! I'll type out the kata kunci as the ones I have are on this battered piece of paper we've all been using for two years  sweat.gif

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please do not hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong, because my moral teacher is very inexperienced and we don't actually have a teacher who knows the subject well.
OH, also I heard that the new format is 6 marks for the huraikan question instead of 4? Is this true?
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Some of your KK's are erroneous ! You did a good thing to have brought that up . So where should I start ? Show you my list ? Then you'd have to get used to a new list of KK's , if that's okay with you .

NO --- As I've said , there were no 'huraikan' questions in SPM 2012 .

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QUOTE(1insane @ Oct 14 2013, 04:24 PM)
I am quite lucky this year to get a quite experienced moral teacher. Thanks to her, my moral improved. Last year, I dont really know how to answer for moral paper.
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Experienced , but is she an examiner ?

Sorry , but I'm naturally OCD-ish when it comes to Moral . I'm never satisfied until I know the teacher who teaches me is an examiner , and an experienced one at that .

This owes to the fact that nobody got an A+ for Moral in 2011 from my school . 2011 was a nightmarish year for Moral , hope 2013 won't be .

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 14 2013, 04:34 PM)
I actually started learning Moral this year. Last year, I was taught by a teacher who teaches Geo. All he did was gave us a list of nilai(s) and told us to memorise it. Classes are spent talking about current issues/ folio / homework  blink.gif
I guess that's a good thing.
Now that's scary. I too have seen many fail to get A+ for Moral. mad.gif
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Many ! Even with candidates who scored 99-100 marks in Trials . sad.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 14 2013, 04:39 PM)
means the value for A+ damn high? hmm.gif

Like 98?  laugh.gif
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93-94 I believe .

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