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post Mar 3 2013, 12:07 PM

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TruthHurts
post Mar 3 2013, 02:52 PM

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As currently there is war at Sabah. Seems to me that our Security Force seems to have trouble with just the Sulu invader.

The Sulu invader know military tactics and well trained. Meaning they have actively trained with each other at their own ground BUT Malaysian Military however sent nearly all of the ATM troops there having difficulty holding down a few invaders.

I think Malaysia Govt should allowed (in a controlled manner) to open up an active AIRSOFT sport in Malaysia. Its the best way to train some would be army men and some people who would defend Malaysia incase we would be invaded again and need reserved men ... (We have been invaded now .. huhuhuuuu cry.gif)

Suggest to support the AIRSOFT Sport and we need to push for it. Anyone Agree ?? (please don't mad at me and tell it will be use by robbers.. huhuhuhuhuhuhu cry.gif cry.gif )


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post Mar 3 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Mar 3 2013, 02:52 PM)
As currently there is war at Sabah. Seems to me that our Security Force seems to have trouble with just the Sulu invader.

The Sulu invader know military tactics and well trained. Meaning they have actively trained with each other at their own ground BUT Malaysian Military however sent nearly all of the ATM troops there having difficulty holding down a few invaders.

I think Malaysia Govt should allowed (in a controlled manner) to open up an active AIRSOFT sport in Malaysia. Its the best way to train some would be army men and some people who would defend Malaysia incase we would be invaded again and need reserved men ... (We have been invaded now .. huhuhuuuu cry.gif)

Suggest to support the AIRSOFT Sport and we need to push for it. Anyone Agree ?? (please don't mad at me and tell it will be use by robbers.. huhuhuhuhuhuhu cry.gif cry.gif )
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Currently they have elements of surprise caught our police and commando off guard.
If Military on full control expect their advance will be gone.
the only thing remains is what is the casualties and cost to us Malaysia?

What will the politician view on our national securities, these is something no longer can be ignore by the politician of both PR and BN.
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post Mar 3 2013, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 3 2013, 03:00 PM)
Currently they have elements of surprise caught our police and commando off guard.
If Military on full control expect their advance will be gone.
the only thing remains is what is the casualties and cost to us Malaysia?

What will the politician view on our national securities, these is something no longer can be ignore by the politician of both PR and BN.
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Still we need to keep the Military actively aware now than before and trained some reserved men in urban and jungle combat via Airsoft sports. As invader already hit us and some good men have fallen. The invader could have more trained reserves than our Military.
So if military quickly muster some new cadets with little training in combat could prove fatal. Last time we laid back and tought that no war will come to us since we make peace always which we are being complasent with our Security . NOW, we are at war with the Sulu invaders and soon more will come to claim sabah back.

We cant just lay back now as it happen.. WE NEED TO BUCK UP and make more active role in military sports.. AIRSOFT IS A MUST !!


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post Mar 3 2013, 05:22 PM

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sabah location is too near to the intruder's base..thats why APMM and navy cannot react fast and the intruders can quickly come into sabah..seems to me the entire coast sabah is invaded..Quick Response Force like 10th Para should be deployed to all coastal towns and villages in sabah..just in case..

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post Mar 3 2013, 07:21 PM

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lets pray for the best for our security force at sabah....

oh btw at kem tentera at port dickson have pameran/hari terbuka in these 2 days....me just come back from PD from holiday...
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Just three photos to share right now.

Many thanks to Dzirhan for the dates and timing of the event.

It was a great event.

Cheers.

2013 MAR Malaysian Army 80th Anniversary and Open Day, Bandar Tentera Darat, Port Dickson, Malaysia

http://xtemujin.wordpress.com/2013/03/02/2...ckson-malaysia/
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:12 AM

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Y brag so much about our fire power vs Indon but this small machai Sulu also cant handle?

Just take rpg's, MIGs, tanks and stuff and blow them to pieces.. doh.gif
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Mar 3 2013, 02:52 PM)
As currently there is war at Sabah. Seems to me that our Security Force seems to have trouble with just the Sulu invader.

The Sulu invader know military tactics and well trained. Meaning they have actively trained with each other at their own ground BUT Malaysian Military however sent nearly all of the ATM troops there having difficulty holding down a few invaders.

I think Malaysia Govt should allowed (in a controlled manner) to open up an active AIRSOFT sport in Malaysia. Its the best way to train some would be army men and some people who would defend Malaysia incase we would be invaded again and need reserved men ... (We have been invaded now .. huhuhuuuu cry.gif)

Suggest to support the AIRSOFT Sport and we need to push for it. Anyone Agree ?? (please don't mad at me and tell it will be use by robbers.. huhuhuhuhuhuhu cry.gif cry.gif )
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why not join wataniah & play with real bullet..???

airsoft will never teach u real situation & condition..it will only teach u how to become COD character in real world, & that is not good..
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post Mar 4 2013, 11:56 AM

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Just out of curiosity..why are some of the police in this Ops Sulu not wearing uniform, like the one in the Star today?


http://starstorage.blob.core.windows.net/a...semporna-n3.jpg

This post has been edited by GINGERBREADMAN: Mar 4 2013, 12:01 PM
TruthHurts
post Mar 4 2013, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Mar 4 2013, 11:39 AM)
why not join wataniah & play with real bullet..???

airsoft will never teach u real situation & condition..it will only teach u how to become COD character in real world, & that is not good..
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Airsoft is use to train tactical for non-military people, at least they have the know how to do something than just squeal at the corner being useless. Like some people who beat up that sulu invader and shoot the invader, they have guts but still lack training military.
Not all people prefer military life but will defend when life and land is at stake.

We can train airsoft in urban setting and wooded area. And dont you bullshit when you say Airsoft will never teach real situation.. US use this for their military training. So your logic is invalid.

Join wataniah need requirement. Not all people fit the requirement.

So who is going to give you real gun and bullet to train ? The goverment ? Do they have enough inventory for all ??? I dont think so.
Just like now, if you lose a few good men and replenish it, doesn't mean all of the new cadet are well trained even with a real gun at hand.

Look at this links:

http://www.army.mil/article/25860/Soldiers...yment_training/

http://www.strikehold.net/2011/03/16/airso...the-real-world/


SUPPORT AIRSOFT SPORT IN MALAYSIA !!!
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post Mar 4 2013, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Mar 4 2013, 12:11 PM)
This site suggest using airsoft as a "step-down" (from real guns to airsoft) for cost efficiency,
rather than your suggestion of a "step-up" (from airsoft to real guns).

Sure you can give airsoft to a guy and teach him basic movement and maneuvering tactics,
but handling, maintenance, upkeep and field repair of a weapon still needs to be taught with of course, real guns for each person.



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post Mar 4 2013, 01:10 PM

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that guy just wanna play airsoft
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post Mar 4 2013, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Mar 4 2013, 01:06 PM)
This site suggest using airsoft as a "step-down" (from real guns to airsoft) for cost efficiency,
rather than your suggestion of a "step-up" (from airsoft to real guns).

Sure you can give airsoft to a guy and teach him basic movement and maneuvering tactics,
but handling, maintenance, upkeep and field repair of a weapon still needs to be taught with of course, real guns for each person.
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Unless Malaysia legalize real guns. At the moment we need to learn how to use basic movement and tactics. Even you have real guns, without training, you shoot maybe just 10% might hit the invader instead of 80 ~ 90% of the time. In case you did subdue enemy and aquire a weapon at hand, moving corner to corner evading or defending yourself for survival or escape is more critical for a non-military personal. And dont tell me you just stay at the corner squealing hoping that any police/army would find you in the middle of a warzone.

"Step down" it is but then again if you do leagalize real gunz ... you do not practice with your mate with a real bullet anyway.

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post Mar 4 2013, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Mar 4 2013, 12:11 PM)
Airsoft is use to train tactical for non-military people, at least they have the know how to do something than just squeal at the corner being useless. Like some people who beat up that sulu invader and shoot the invader, they have guts but still lack training military.
Not all people prefer military life but will defend when life and land is at stake. 

We can train airsoft in urban setting and wooded area. And dont you bullshit when you say Airsoft will never teach real situation.. US use this for their military training. So your logic is invalid.

Join wataniah need requirement. Not all people fit the requirement.

So who is going to give you real gun and bullet to train ? The goverment ? Do they have enough inventory for all ??? I dont think so. 
Just like now, if you lose a few good men and replenish it, doesn't mean all of the new cadet are well trained even with a real gun at hand. 

Look at this links:

http://www.army.mil/article/25860/Soldiers...yment_training/

http://www.strikehold.net/2011/03/16/airso...the-real-world/
SUPPORT AIRSOFT SPORT IN MALAYSIA !!!
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just join askar wataniah and you can play with real guns
but you have to sacrifice your weekends for it
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post Mar 4 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(spartacusEX @ Mar 4 2013, 01:10 PM)
that guy just wanna play airsoft
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Its for fun and to training civilian to fight back invader incase it threaten their lives and land... be at the ready all the time !!

a DUPE ACCOUNT !!!!!!!!! YOU MUST BE SULU SPY !!!!!

YOU SULU ARE TRYING DISCOURAGE AIRSOFT SO THAT YOU CAN THREATEN CIVILIANS WITHOUT ANY THREAT TO YOUR INVASION !!!!! DIE SULU SPY DOGS !!!!

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why airsoft? there's a non-lethal training bullet..it is like a paintball..it's called Simunitions if i'm not mistaken..it has the accuracy and range like a real bullet but shoot paint..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wax_bullet

btw, guys..is this true? the procedure to mobilize the army >>http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=428614647222629&set=a.427661047317989.1073741825.352891871461574&type=1&theater

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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Mar 4 2013, 01:20 PM)
just join askar wataniah and you can play with real guns
but you have to sacrifice your weekends for it
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I work offshore . 28 days at sea.. how.. cry.gif
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post Mar 4 2013, 01:32 PM

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found the website for Simunitions~ army use it or not? if not, tell the SME Ordnance to buy these things..

http://simunition.com/en/products/securi_blank_cartridges
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 4 2013, 01:25 PM)
why airsoft? there's a non-lethal training bullet..it is like a paintball..it's called Simunitions if i'm not mistaken..it has the accuracy and range like a real bullet but shoot paint..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wax_bullet

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First need to support AIRSOFT sports. Then can upgrade better. Beside, Malaysia havent legalize real gunz. An after this invasion, we should legalize controled gunz at Sabah and Sarawak only. rclxms.gif

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