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post Mar 2 2013, 07:26 AM

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So after Lahad Datu incedent, Are Malaysian Military will step up or remain constant ? I dont think it will be the last of Sultan Sulu landing armed party.

Im waiting for the sulu to comeback in a few month or so.


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post Mar 2 2013, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 2 2013, 07:40 AM)
I think tighter control in the borders is warrants but would not be as strict as current condition.
MMEA SOP will be review as I was been told.
We will be looking for additional spending to increase the capabilities of our armed force in term of asset and base.
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Ask the millitary to get Attack Helicopter better. For situation like Lahad Datu, we should know what type of equipment is require for that type of condition since its already happen, proper gear is needed.

Like at the shoreline and during night time. Military with Attack Helicopter will surely have the upper hand since like the current invader use Mortar to attack the ground force. And at Night can use FLIR to see and monitor their movement and position the invader has set up.


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post Mar 2 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 2 2013, 10:47 AM)
Hoping that the procurement of coastal radar and missile planned by next RMK will be done sooner
not to mention the addition of more patrol boats for APMM and the larger jurisdiction for PDRM Ungerin and fast interceptor boats for them
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Costal Radar and missile ???? The Armed men arrived to Sabah by small boats and equal to fishing boat around the area. How can a radar detect this and also for the missile is overkill and useless since how ATM handle at LD currently does not require immediate "shoot to kill" first but negotiation.

ATM should obtain equipment best suit to the matter at hand. Fast boats, yes. Missile, no, Unless we go full fledge war with other country. For Sulu however is not. The sulu dont have tanks, battle cruise and jets.

Attack Helicopter is excellent handling this matter compare to jets.



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post Mar 2 2013, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 2 2013, 11:01 AM)
Normal radar cannot detect small boats as good as precision coastal radar that built for that
same as gap fillers!

Attack Chopper is more for long term solution!
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After the invasion, bloodshead and Sultan Sulu constant Sabah claim added other militia support for sulu .. it is long term anyway. Attack Chopper is a MUST !!!

As for costal radar, there will always be a problem of detecting our fisherman boat and sulu fisherman boat. Also sulu fisherman boat with invaders or weapon for them to stash at Sabah.







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post Mar 2 2013, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 2 2013, 11:11 AM)
it would take at least 3 years to get 1.
on procurement standard timelines.
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3 years !?!? shocking.gif Another invasion would take less than a year.

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post Mar 2 2013, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 2 2013, 12:07 PM)
The remaining member still trap in the Kampung Tanduo.
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Meaning we may have another shoot out again and unknown loss of life.
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post Mar 2 2013, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 2 2013, 12:22 PM)
They are not getting any cheap shot on our armies or police
They lost most of their member running out of weapons and ammos.
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Still 90 people consider high and chance of getting shot will remain. But i wonder .. they are 200 people that came and 100 of those people are armed. Meaning at least 50 ~ 60 people in that 90 people holed up still got weapon.
But then again the rest of those people may have small arm.

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post Mar 3 2013, 06:14 AM

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Like i said .. we need to add Attack helicopter to the inventory.

So police have been shot at Semporna.. Look like Mahathir Project IC did pay after all ... for the invaders anyway.

Looks like Malaysia military have to watch their backs.




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post Mar 3 2013, 06:22 AM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Mar 2 2013, 08:03 PM)
2 commando fallen, 3 injured.
Kinda disappointed to hear that. Last time I remember someone in Kopitiam brag about how powerful our commando really are. I guess that's not true and our commando are not really that much different from other countries commandos.
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Me thinks they were caught off guard cause Semporna is usually filled with pinoys sulu. And some militia do not wear uniform anyway.

Sabah is now in war where the enemy has already spread outaround Sabah. Dark days ahead of Malaysia and the beginning of World War 3.

Well time to legalize guns in Sarawak. War is close anyway. wink.gif
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post Mar 3 2013, 02:52 PM

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As currently there is war at Sabah. Seems to me that our Security Force seems to have trouble with just the Sulu invader.

The Sulu invader know military tactics and well trained. Meaning they have actively trained with each other at their own ground BUT Malaysian Military however sent nearly all of the ATM troops there having difficulty holding down a few invaders.

I think Malaysia Govt should allowed (in a controlled manner) to open up an active AIRSOFT sport in Malaysia. Its the best way to train some would be army men and some people who would defend Malaysia incase we would be invaded again and need reserved men ... (We have been invaded now .. huhuhuuuu cry.gif)

Suggest to support the AIRSOFT Sport and we need to push for it. Anyone Agree ?? (please don't mad at me and tell it will be use by robbers.. huhuhuhuhuhuhu cry.gif cry.gif )


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post Mar 3 2013, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 3 2013, 03:00 PM)
Currently they have elements of surprise caught our police and commando off guard.
If Military on full control expect their advance will be gone.
the only thing remains is what is the casualties and cost to us Malaysia?

What will the politician view on our national securities, these is something no longer can be ignore by the politician of both PR and BN.
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Still we need to keep the Military actively aware now than before and trained some reserved men in urban and jungle combat via Airsoft sports. As invader already hit us and some good men have fallen. The invader could have more trained reserves than our Military.
So if military quickly muster some new cadets with little training in combat could prove fatal. Last time we laid back and tought that no war will come to us since we make peace always which we are being complasent with our Security . NOW, we are at war with the Sulu invaders and soon more will come to claim sabah back.

We cant just lay back now as it happen.. WE NEED TO BUCK UP and make more active role in military sports.. AIRSOFT IS A MUST !!


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post Mar 4 2013, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Mar 4 2013, 11:39 AM)
why not join wataniah & play with real bullet..???

airsoft will never teach u real situation & condition..it will only teach u how to become COD character in real world, & that is not good..
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Airsoft is use to train tactical for non-military people, at least they have the know how to do something than just squeal at the corner being useless. Like some people who beat up that sulu invader and shoot the invader, they have guts but still lack training military.
Not all people prefer military life but will defend when life and land is at stake.

We can train airsoft in urban setting and wooded area. And dont you bullshit when you say Airsoft will never teach real situation.. US use this for their military training. So your logic is invalid.

Join wataniah need requirement. Not all people fit the requirement.

So who is going to give you real gun and bullet to train ? The goverment ? Do they have enough inventory for all ??? I dont think so.
Just like now, if you lose a few good men and replenish it, doesn't mean all of the new cadet are well trained even with a real gun at hand.

Look at this links:

http://www.army.mil/article/25860/Soldiers...yment_training/

http://www.strikehold.net/2011/03/16/airso...the-real-world/


SUPPORT AIRSOFT SPORT IN MALAYSIA !!!
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post Mar 4 2013, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Mar 4 2013, 01:06 PM)
This site suggest using airsoft as a "step-down" (from real guns to airsoft) for cost efficiency,
rather than your suggestion of a "step-up" (from airsoft to real guns).

Sure you can give airsoft to a guy and teach him basic movement and maneuvering tactics,
but handling, maintenance, upkeep and field repair of a weapon still needs to be taught with of course, real guns for each person.
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Unless Malaysia legalize real guns. At the moment we need to learn how to use basic movement and tactics. Even you have real guns, without training, you shoot maybe just 10% might hit the invader instead of 80 ~ 90% of the time. In case you did subdue enemy and aquire a weapon at hand, moving corner to corner evading or defending yourself for survival or escape is more critical for a non-military personal. And dont tell me you just stay at the corner squealing hoping that any police/army would find you in the middle of a warzone.

"Step down" it is but then again if you do leagalize real gunz ... you do not practice with your mate with a real bullet anyway.

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post Mar 4 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(spartacusEX @ Mar 4 2013, 01:10 PM)
that guy just wanna play airsoft
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Its for fun and to training civilian to fight back invader incase it threaten their lives and land... be at the ready all the time !!

a DUPE ACCOUNT !!!!!!!!! YOU MUST BE SULU SPY !!!!!

YOU SULU ARE TRYING DISCOURAGE AIRSOFT SO THAT YOU CAN THREATEN CIVILIANS WITHOUT ANY THREAT TO YOUR INVASION !!!!! DIE SULU SPY DOGS !!!!

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post Mar 4 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Mar 4 2013, 01:20 PM)
just join askar wataniah and you can play with real guns
but you have to sacrifice your weekends for it
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I work offshore . 28 days at sea.. how.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 4 2013, 01:25 PM)
why airsoft? there's a non-lethal training bullet..it is like a paintball..it's called Simunitions if i'm not mistaken..it has the accuracy and range like a real bullet but shoot paint..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wax_bullet

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First need to support AIRSOFT sports. Then can upgrade better. Beside, Malaysia havent legalize real gunz. An after this invasion, we should legalize controled gunz at Sabah and Sarawak only. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 5 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 4 2013, 06:04 PM)
i don't understand the logic in it..why should we allow civillians to carry guns? if want to training how to use gun, just join wataniah or a shooting club..we could end up like america if we legalised it..as i said before, the Simunitions can replace real bullets for training purposes..no need to buy another airsoft gun..u just need to replace the gun magazine..no upgrade needed..
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Quit being a pussehy !!

Look at us now !! WE ARE BEING INVADED !!! This invasion will NOT be the last !!! It will continue !!
Still there are some smuck like you who still lives in dreamland where the world is full of flowers, bunny and chocolate flowed river.
Wake up laaaaaa ... Does it look like peace comes without a cost ????

Do you think all the people can join the reserved force ? Not all can meet the health requirement and not all people like to march everyday.
Still debate about gun control.. Look at the sulu coming here.. They have gun, they take hostage, they kill no remorse. So how are you going to protect them and yourself ?? Talk to them ?? Give them flower ?? Treat them good food ??

If you are scared, just move far far away to another safe place.




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post Mar 5 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 5 2013, 01:20 PM)
I'm not scared..compare to u, i have trained using REAL rifles..had gone training in Kem Terendak under supervision of the elite 10th Para Brigade..and i'm more than willing to go to lahad datu if government required volunteers..i'm not a hippie..but i'm not going to talk about that..what i'm worried is the gun issue your talking here..i used America as an example bcoz their country is never at peace, yet they freely can buy guns, and what happen to them now? schools massacre, armed robbery everywhere, little children can play with their father's Beretta M9s..i'm talking about long-term effect on this issue..not short term..also, you underestimate the capability of our armed forces..the invaders are mere fools if they think they can take down ATM with just horde of militants..and you are too paranoid about this..
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I can see fear in you by just the denial of legalize guns. I dont care what Summer camp you went.. Look at the sulu invader, do they go for heavy military training ?? Nope, they could mostly train for a week of weapon know how and aim then go off to battle. Then again without proper military training, their casualties are high.
Still Airsoft sport is good to train some random non-military people who have the intrest.

We are talking about getting airsoft and now you start nagging !! Then relate to REAL guns ?? Shit man, i can buy Glock 13, 6-shooter at Pontianak Indonesia and Sabah ( via illegal from pinoy Malaysian ) since im in Sarawak.

You think too much, people think too much dont have the ball to go to war anyway.. Lahad Datu konon.. As long as you thin the way you think, i dont think your ready for any war.. Better jaga anak sahaja.






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QUOTE(azriel @ Mar 5 2013, 12:01 PM)
They are planning something.. I suppose they saw Malaysia military power and calculate their win/loss ratio to ours. I can feel it .. they are trying to take Sarawak or attack West Malaysia. hmm.gif






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post Mar 6 2013, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 6 2013, 12:20 AM)
i really don't get it with those southern pinoys..we help them achieve peace and autonomi region of bangsamoro..we give trainings and weapons to their fighters when they fought the pinoys armed forces..yet, they attack us now?? fcking traitors..
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You forget they "supposely" have "own" land in sabah (kononya) and due to vast population and limited land, they thought that Sabah was once belong to them according to history (yeahhh rightt) , so they join the cause in hope to get Sabah and to live in a good enviroment.

Dog will bite its master when it hungry anyways..



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