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post Dec 14 2012, 08:51 PM

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post Dec 14 2012, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Dec 14 2012, 10:33 PM)
second batch MKM? 1st batch pun dh buat our neighbours menggelupur.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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2nd batch itu letak kat Labuan tak kacua siapa pun. laugh.gif
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post Dec 14 2012, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Dec 14 2012, 10:38 PM)
within striking range of Manila dan Makassar AFB.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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still very far from them.
mayb buy a few brahmos to add some spice. laugh.gif

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 14 2012, 10:38 PM)
Got a source from inside!
the will likely no 2nd batch MKM

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kan dah ada Irbis-E radar.
perhaps some money to further upgrade it? laugh.gif
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post Dec 14 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 14 2012, 10:45 PM)
amboi amboi yin.. brahmos dia mau ye.. nakal betul yin ni tauuu
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brahmos itu pun minimum aje.
what i want the most is storm shadow missile.
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post Dec 14 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 14 2012, 11:14 PM)
hahahaha
Maybe they like the Rafale AESA?  whistling.gif
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boleh ker?
letak RBE2aa kat mkm? hmm.gif
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post Dec 15 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(souless223 @ Dec 15 2012, 04:32 PM)
my friend(works with TUDM) said there was whisper of 2nd MKM purchases any truth to this whisper?
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The biggest rumors come from trade-in of the old migs with 6 MKM with a discounted price.
Our 1st batch MKM might get some upgrade as well.
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post Dec 15 2012, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(souless223 @ Dec 15 2012, 04:49 PM)
ah right, i have another question
what would they do with our old mig? i always wondered how they make money from that
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not sure they might refurbish it and sell to other nation or they are going to use it themselves.
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post Dec 15 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(souless223 @ Dec 15 2012, 04:53 PM)
would other nation buy an old model of MIG?
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there would. Myanmar or any other exsoviet country for example.

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post Dec 15 2012, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Dec 15 2012, 05:00 PM)
but some country manufacture will deny that trade right? like US...
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how so?
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post Dec 15 2012, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Dec 15 2012, 05:15 PM)
i read somewhere if any nation who wanna buy american asset from third country need american senate approve to get it..
i dunno about Russia deal...
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Not sure about that.
if high profile assets it will require US approval.
In russian deals it is a proposal from their government not ours.
but it seem like it get lots of interest.
US at one times have offer the trade in of our Hornet. to make way for larger amount of SH.
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post Dec 15 2012, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 15 2012, 05:50 PM)
tak boleh ke kita angkat eurofighter dan rafale sekaligus bersama sistem aew&c boeing..

rasa-rasanya jet pejuang mana maintenance dia amat tinggi ??
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EF2000 no thanks.
A Big NO.
Seperti yang arteyu kata banyak masalah.
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post Dec 16 2012, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 16 2012, 12:24 AM)
Ok, cerita paling senang paling public dan tak akan menyebabkan aku tido lokap ialah!
Typhoon ni tak seswai ngan cuaca panas serta humidity tinggi kat Malaysia nih.

waktu eks tu byk karenah, air condition tuk sembur pesawat ni toksah kata la (pasal hanger Btrwth ni open hanger)
Depa kene sapu liquid (chemical apa aku tak tau) kat body pesawat tu tuk prolong dia punya life, ada skali tu tetiba satu typhoon rasanya kat runway tgh taxi, berasap
tak tau apa kes, masuk balik hanger.

jadi waktu LIMA dassault dah tau kes nih, depa park Rafale tengah2 panas, bila nak buat show, naik terus terbang sedangkan Typhoon plak kne datang dari Btwrth pasal ground EQ depa kat sana!

jadi nilaikan sendiri!
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keke.
ada cerita osa ker?
Anyway SH ftw. beberap Bulan yang lepas MIDA telah adakan perbincangan panjang lebar ngan Boeing dan beberapa syarikat US.
dengar kata it goes well. CTRM mungkin dapat contract besar. biggrin.gif
lepas 1 minggu lebih BAE come out with the 10bil deals. laugh.gif

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post Dec 16 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 16 2012, 12:37 AM)
Ada tp takle la cerita!  brows.gif
SH is actually is can be consider almost a done deal, no matter what are the procurement of MMRCA
the SH still going to be inserted to the inventory  nod.gif

btw the 10bil story is proven to be fake!
just a fantasy of one journalist name AM (reversed)
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haha.
memang kena paksa beli ini. macam migs deal dulu. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 16 2012, 12:45 AM)
So we are procuring SH with probably Rafale at the same time?

two new MMRCA model to be bought?
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SH might win all.
or we might be seeing gripen lease deal as well.

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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 16 2012, 12:50 AM)
So, bye2 to Rafale?

1 more thing, are we trading all of out hornet to get SH?
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thing can change anytime. laugh.gif
beside winner are not announce yet.
no we are not trading any hornet out.
we just upgrading it.

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post Dec 16 2012, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 16 2012, 01:03 AM)
why cant us spilt 50% for SH 50% for rafale?

would love to both also. hahaha
but i know it is imposible because both plane are not same.

tech. used also almost not the same.

hard to get maintenance ain't?
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Maintenance is not a problem.
we just need to setup a new department for Rafale.

the big problem is the budget. IIRC we only allocate USD1bil for the 8-18 jets.
I highly doubt if there will given special budget. biggrin.gif
if you split I dun think we can get the desire amount of aircraft.
it is a whole differ story compare to the migs case. IIRC we get the migs very cheaps price.
the rafale price tags in whole new level.

Saab were playing it smartly "lease the gripen perhaps they even throw in AEW deals as well".
I'm seeing these deals is much higher for split buying.
special budget for AEW is highly possible compare to special budget for jet fighter

QUOTE(acam2812 @ Dec 16 2012, 01:10 AM)
wanna challenge SG maybe. y no buy stealth plane? T-50 look good. kekekekke
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we did not challange SG.
Airforce have to fill in the gap when the migs retire.

QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 16 2012, 01:42 AM)
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/conspiracy/
Sebenarnya masa Dr.M berkuasa pihak US memang tak duduk senang policies Dr. M yang agak aggresive terhadap Singapore.
apabila Dr. M dah retire US pun dah turunkan weapons restriction kat Malaysia.
pada masa yang sama pertukaran politics kat US dan kuasa China pun menjadi factor utama AS membenarkan Malaysia membeli senjata yang higher standard.
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SH merupakan salah satu MMRCA yang tulen sekali kalau dibandingkan ngan fighter yang lain.
Malah saya pasti SH memang higher standard compare to EF dan rafale.
dengan SH block 2 offer kat Malaysia akan tingkatkan kuasa udara kita.
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post Dec 16 2012, 03:17 AM

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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 16 2012, 03:07 AM)
Australia punya F/A-18 super hornet.. ujian pengeboman dia.. dasattttt !! kababooooooooooommm !!!! shocking.gif

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tak payah ambik itu.
Saya lebih suka kalau kita ambik JSM. cuma bayar cost integration aje.
tak ada masalah politic or restriction.
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post Dec 16 2012, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 16 2012, 03:15 AM)
yinchet.. kalau betul-betul nak angkat F/A18 Super Hornet.. mau paling kurang angkat sekali peluru berpandu ni
pastu buat joint-excercise dengan Australia.. indon kalau tahu ni mesti terkencing ke terberak terus diaorang  brows.gif kababooom.. range atas >370 km tu !!


jet MMRCA Malaysia kena mesti pasang taring terbaik.. jangan jadi cam kes dulu nak mengaum nampak gigi rongak pula, habis jiran semua gelak besar je.

antara taring terbaik untuk jet MMRCA Malaysia kalau angkat F/A-18  icon_idea.gif

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rasanya kita tak dapat JASSM. tak tau lar. tak salah kalau kita tanya mana tau dapat juga. laugh.gif
JSOW mungkin boleh dapat.

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post Dec 16 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 16 2012, 07:09 AM)
SH deal is more to political factors, to pleased the US!
same like what we did during the MIG, we buy MIG the US merajuk and we have to buy Hornet in small number

Maybe same again this time, in small number, the current hornet is heavily upgraded and maybe an addition about 10 plane or more while we will keep the current hornet
so the line will be more like this
18MKM (Air superiority) + 6MKMII (Pure interceptor)
18 Rafale/Typhoon (MMRCA)
12 Gripen (Leased until MMRCA come)
8 F18D (Upgrade Hornet) + 10 F18E/F (Super Horney)
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lolol.
banyak wet dream.

QUOTE(acam2812 @ Dec 16 2012, 11:36 AM)
is it because F-35 is running on single engine?

So if we get f-18 SH do we get the F-18F (2 seater) or F-18E (single seater)?

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not because of single engine.
it is because it new tech and the performance is not up to the standard as the paper 1st proposed.
lack of funding.

Two seater.
we are getting block 2 as well.
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post Dec 16 2012, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Dec 16 2012, 01:40 PM)
If they won which ever jet... Is it easy to integrate into our overall defense system?
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can the only thing is money.
Anyway most of our system are western block.
Even our Russian equipment is modded with western tech into it.

QUOTE(souless223 @ Dec 16 2012, 01:41 PM)
Malaysia needs more frigate
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sure we already order 6 units.
would be the most advance ship in TLDM fleet.

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