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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V36, I can carry 56 liulian. No belip me ah?

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post Dec 7 2012, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:20 PM)
then wat problem leh icon_question.gif
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Still a mystery, Bro.... rolleyes.gif
Yr guess as good as anybody's....

Might b as Bro YAB David suspected? brows.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:21 PM)
Pak Z1, if memory serve u well, masih ingat kah masa melampau your ole GaGa if terpump gas pedal sebelom stat, you'll get the same shit, very hard to crank stat icon_idea.gif It is normal for ALL cars la. Worst for oversized injectors/turbo cars, happened very often. Especially hot weather, nozzle tend to lazy shut down.

Meanwhile, don't know about engine oil can affect crank up the car rolleyes.gif Theoretically, practically, mechanically, don't think it brings any effect that helps start the car. However, if put 12 litres of oil inside, I'm sure it can't start because engine oil will flood the whole rocker and sneak in the combustion chamber  laugh.gif U know how I know this? There was once an apprentice in my magician's workshop, did oil changed with a Wigra 4G93, after that he asked how many needed to put back the engine. So the taochew told him 3(but didn't mention litre) laugh.gif So customer stranded infront of workshop, checked half day on the electronics and stuff to no avail doh.gif in the end keep cranking until oil spilled out from engine oil cap only realized engine oil overflowed rclxub.gif
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Haha okay... that's too much for a mistake lol. Anyway if engine oil is low.. does the ECU stop you from starting the engine? or they still allow you to start the car and jalan? In my case my savvy always use all the oil one.. but this mech send over normal service he return my LM oil... in quite significant amount.. 1 day after service ady have this problem.. go home pour all in.. never again face this issue.. In fact on the 2nd day i faced it twice.. first time can't crack up.. 2nd time half way jalan jalan at subang suddenly sei for.. and the engine oil light up.
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Oct 29 2012, 11:55 PM)
This is typical electronic problem. Plug in the key, step on the brake(do not release until the car starts), turn key to ACC(2 tick from OFF, 1 tick before kick start) wait for few seconds, move gear lever from P to D, from D back to P, then crank start. Few of my company FL got this problem when reverse parking forgot to put back P then off engine whistling.gif

When engine got cranking sound, meaning NOT starter problem. Its probably fuel cut off. I try to imitate the sound, you see whether you hear what I hear:

Wuekekeke vroom = start normally
Wuekekekekekekekekeke = no fuel supply
Wuekekekekekekekkekek.... kekeke(faster).... kekekekek(slower) = petrol over flow
Weeeeeeeeeeeeee = Timing belt putus(engine already gone, so as your wallet)
Tik tak tik tak = Starter relay sound, normally starter KO
Wuek... Bin Bin Bin Bin(car horn alarm) = Bateri weak
...............................(no sound no light no nothing) = Bateri kong, you probably left the headlamp on overnight

You can even start a car without engine oil rolleyes.gif Keep cranking lar tomorrow, good things will happen. Try not to step on the gas pedal yo. Remember to fiddle with the gear lever. Or you can wait until Plotong iDunCare cum and do the same thing for you geh. As long not timing belt putus, you're safe to crank until the bateri drain whistling.gif
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:20 PM)
then wat problem leh icon_question.gif
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Ady said so damn many time, wet spakplak lok. Dun understand cantonese ar? Soli I mean England laugh.gif If crank kenot start

DO NOT TURN THE KEY TO OFF!!! JUST LEAVE IT AT ON, REST AWHILE THEN RECRANK AGAIN!!!!

If kenot stat, you go turn off key, then turn on again "TEEEET", inject somemore fuel, again kenot start. Turn off again, turn on again "TEEEEET" inject somemore doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif Your spakplak wet lan dou.... shakehead.gif

U see u wanna believe or not lar. If dun wanto believe I also dun force geh. If ask other mechs, most probably they tell u stater plobrem lar, this rosak lar that rosak lar. So just go ahead and do lor. Who knows may be they're right leh rolleyes.gif Oh on the side note, if you have a dead rat inside ur intake airbox, hard to crank start is in-eminent liao. But then your car oso no pickup at the same time lar.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 7 2012, 08:41 PM)
ya, so expensive.

Audi R8 V10 oso cheaper than that City

http://www.oto.my/car-for-sale/25423/recon...spider-selangor
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Wah can buy 10
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 7 2012, 08:41 PM)
ya, so expensive.

Audi R8 V10 oso cheaper than that City

http://www.oto.my/car-for-sale/25423/recon...spider-selangor
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 7 2012, 09:29 PM)
Haha okay... that's too much for a mistake lol. Anyway if engine oil is low.. does the ECU stop you from starting the engine? or they still allow you to start the car and jalan? In my case my savvy always use all the oil one.. but this mech send over normal service he return my LM oil... in quite significant amount.. 1 day after service ady have this problem.. go home pour all in.. never again face this issue.. In fact on the 2nd day i faced it twice.. first time can't crack up.. 2nd time half way jalan jalan at subang suddenly sei for.. and the engine oil light up.
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urs is isolated case, & not relate to engine oil oso. car was driving suddenly die fire meaning ignition weak or dieded/low fuel supply/spakplak times up/fuel regulator dieded/injector sumbat & many other facts, quite confirm low engine oil is not included, unless....



last but not least, i suspect ur case was ngam2 that time ur fuel channel got bubble needed a bleed, or so happen dirty. as bubble gone/terbleed than ma auto fixed itself lor.
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:21 PM)
Pak Z1, if memory serve u well, masih ingat kah masa melampau your ole GaGa if terpump gas pedal sebelom stat, you'll get the same shit, very hard to crank stat icon_idea.gif It is normal for ALL cars la. Worst for oversized injectors/turbo cars, happened very often. Especially hot weather, nozzle tend to lazy shut down.
Yup, Bro! The good ole carb days...
Still embedded in dis ole grey matter! Haha! TQ!
Any way 2prevent such a prob in our "modern" EFI engines? Or hv 2live with it?



Meanwhile, don't know about engine oil can affect crank up the car rolleyes.gif Theoretically, practically, mechanically, don't think it brings any effect that helps start the car. However, if put 12 litres of oil inside, I'm sure it can't start because engine oil will flood the whole rocker and sneak in the combustion chamber  laugh.gif U know how I know this? There was once an apprentice in my magician's workshop, did oil changed with a Wigra 4G93, after that he asked how many needed to put back the engine. So the taochew told him 3(but didn't mention litre) laugh.gif So customer stranded infront of workshop, checked half day on the electronics and stuff to no avail doh.gif in the end keep cranking until oil spilled out from engine oil cap only realized engine oil overflowed rclxub.gif
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Wow, a very kwai apprentice...but feel more of one w/o any mech basics? whistling.gif
In such cases, feel the Sifu is partly 2blame wan.... sweat.gif

Me hv personally encountered an apprentice (only a teenager) who was told by his Sifu 2remove my ole Saga alternator for replacement. (It was overcharging that time)
That boy juz stood at my car! Not doing anything!
Me asked him why? His reply? "I dun kno how 2remove the unit!"
His very first time!! doh.gif
So me asked him why he nvr asked his Sifu. And he told me the Sifu wld scold him if he were 2ask!
His Sifu expects his apps 2find out by themselves how 2do any job assigned 2them!!!

Only then me realised my car was gonna b a REAL white mice!! Phew!
NEVER wanna go back 2that shop anymore!!! rclxm9.gif

This post has been edited by zeone: Dec 7 2012, 09:45 PM
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 7 2012, 09:38 PM)
Lai lai lai bulk

Recond 2010 Audi R8 5.2 V10 Spider BULK
Price : RM 898.00 (will try to negotiate if have enuff numbers)
Closing date : 7 Dec 2102


1. dares (10 biji)
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4. GP madman
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6. Nick
7. zeone
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not my cup of TT whistling.gif I want Autech R33 enuf jor wub.gif

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post Dec 7 2012, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:42 PM)
urs is isolated case, & not relate to engine oil oso. car was driving suddenly die fire meaning ignition weak or dieded/low fuel supply/spakplak times up/fuel regulator dieded/injector sumbat & many other facts, quite confirm low engine oil is not included, unless....



last but not least, i suspect ur case was ngam2 that time ur fuel channel got bubble needed a bleed, or so happen dirty. as bubble gone/terbleed than ma auto fixed itself lor.
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Impossible la.. Service a day before.. next day got this issue. Fill up the remaining oil more than 2 weeks nothing happen? won't be so ngam. Fuel channel? i did nothing from combustion chamber to petrol tank leh. why need bleeding.
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If my car accident, and I do repair at workshop, not endorsed by Proton, will it void the warranty?
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:44 PM)
not my cup of TT whistling.gif I want Autech R33 enuf jor wub.gif

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Lansi, wan sushi no wan conti, dowan fren kaw u whistling.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 7 2012, 09:38 PM)
Lai lai lai bulk

Recond 2010 Audi R8 5.2 V10 Spider BULK
Price : RM 898.00 (will try to negotiate if have enuff numbers)
Closing date : 7 Dec 2102

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Ok...me take the rims & tyres, yu Bros can grab the rest of it! Ok? rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(rangeseven @ Dec 7 2012, 09:47 PM)
If my car accident, and I do repair at workshop, not endorsed by Proton, will it void the warranty?
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After car is 1 year old?
Engine & GBox still covered by warranty, provided both not damaged in accident... whistling.gif

ps. Juz a logical guess? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 7 2012, 09:42 PM)
Yup, Bro! The good ole carb days...
Still embedded in dis ole grey matter! Haha! TQ!
Any way 2prevent such a prob in our "modern" EFI engines? Or hv 2live with it?
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Live with it. ALL cars will have occassion when parks wet, unless its an electric car rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 7 2012, 09:42 PM)
Wow, a very kwai apprentice...but feel more of one w/o any mech basics?  whistling.gif
In such cases, feel the Sifu is partly 2blame wan.... sweat.gif

Me hv personally encountered an apprentice (only a teenager) who was told by his Sifu 2remove my ole Saga alternator for replacement. (It was overcharging that time)
That boy juz stood at my car! Not doing anything!
Me asked him why? His reply? "I dun kno how 2remove the unit!" 
His very first time!! doh.gif
So me asked him why he nvr asked his Sifu. And he told me the Sifu wld scold him if he were 2ask!
His Sifu expects his apps 2find out by themselves how 2do any job assigned 2them!!!

Only then me realised my car was gonna b a REAL white mice!! Phew!
NEVER wanna go back 2that shop anymore!!!  rclxm9.gif
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thats his first assignment.actually magician ady showed him how to open sump nut, then filter. the kid just drained it & supposedly refill 3litre first then cek dipstick laugh.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 7 2012, 10:01 PM)
Live with it. ALL cars will have occassion when parks wet, unless its an electric car rolleyes.gif

Ok, Bro YAB...and yup, every time Man takes a few steps 4ward, he also takes at least a step backwards wan... whistling.gif

thats his first assignment.actually magician ady showed him how to open sump nut, then filter. the kid just drained it & supposedly refill 3litre first then cek dipstick laugh.gif

Ya lo...Sifu 4got 2tell him that last step 2finish up job well...that there's something called a dipstick & wat it is for....haha! rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 7 2012, 07:40 PM)
a bit slow, but still finds it fun but at the same time conveys a heavy meaning.




Added on December 7, 2012, 8:05 pm

http://www.mudah.my/Honda+City+Full+Spec-18561532.htm

Honda City for sale;

interesting description. laugh.gif
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Really intresting. Firestorm.

QUOTE(dares @ Dec 7 2012, 09:48 PM)
Lansi, wan sushi no wan conti, dowan fren kaw u  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 7 2012, 09:47 PM)
Impossible la.. Service a day before.. next day got this issue. Fill up the remaining oil more than 2 weeks nothing happen? won't be so ngam. Fuel channel? i did nothing from combustion chamber to petrol tank leh. why need bleeding.
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i said isolated case bro. it could be, might not be. theoretically, your engine oil does not have anything to do with your combustion, neither electronics besides the engine oil indicator light. HOWEVER, I do not believe and will not believe Gabby has a function to stop user to abuse the engine with insufficient engine oil. Because the previous owner left the engine running dry for don't know how many weeks already whistling.gif The moment I got the car, I think I only managed to drained less than half a recycle can of engine oil, translated into about 2 litres. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(rangeseven @ Dec 7 2012, 09:47 PM)
If my car accident, and I do repair at workshop, not endorsed by Proton, will it void the warranty?
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Sending outside will always leave Plotong an open window to say NO to your warranty whistling.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Dec 7 2012, 09:48 PM)
Lansi, wan sushi no wan conti, dowan fren kaw u  whistling.gif
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I tot someone sold 1 malaysia brand for a blardy fork pasta whistling.gif

I like the autech just because I like it, can't compare to worth or not and or power output afterall. R33 already like 20++ years old, what do you expect? unsure.gif
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Tmr got ppl go Merz and join TT with persona at aman suria?
Where dahuat is aman suria? Lol
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 7 2012, 09:29 PM)
2nd time half way jalan jalan at subang suddenly sei for.. and the engine oil light up.
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Btw, you already said jalan jalan suddenly die fire, that means its something wrong with either the fuel/fuel line/fuel pump/ignition. May be just so happened that tank of petrol not really favoring yawn.gif could be the magician peed inside your petrol tank oso. Or as I guessed, could be just so happened that day bubbled, next day no more. So happened you filled up engine oil.

You wanna try engine oil light up after sei for? Go borrow someone's manual car, pull the henbrek, release clutch on 1st gear without gas pedal. Your engine go die fire, then engine oil indicator ma lite on lor laugh.gif All cars when key ON but engine not start engine oil indicator will lite up geh.

I hope you don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to argue with you. So happened this is the 2nd time I'm standing on the other side jek icon_rolleyes.gif And I seriously have nothing more to say liao. I believe what I believe, and you certainly do not need to listen to my crap after all thumbup.gif I was going to say "next time your car die fire you prepare more engine oil and pour in lar", but it sure will become sarcasm la blush.gif

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