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I'm just shop a used avanza 1.3 m 2007....used for week already quit ok with it.
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QUOTE(kenny79 @ Dec 2 2012, 04:32 PM)
25000 Wat year of avanza can't get since last time I call d most cheapest agent in my place 7year ava Anza 1.3 manual also rm28000
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buy from owner lo. 25-30k is fair value of d car.

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Dec 2 2012, 10:55 PM)
Only I am critical of the Avanza in this thread.

Why not buy something else? If you want a proper Toyota, get the Alza. Developed and designed by Toyota, for Japan. Avanza is done by some Indonesian engineers, for Indonesia, as a cheap transport, without putting any focus on safety. It should hopefully be reliable, although the handbrake button which seems to fall off after a short while is a bit worrying. But probably not so many affected.

Anyway I am driving a Kangoo. Not exactly a racing car, is it? But direct competitor to the Avanza... sort of. I quickly ruled out the Avanza when I was looking for a MPV. Stability, ride, intended audience (Europeans vs Indonesians... also as a European myself I am quite familiar with seeing Kangoos around, being used as family car. I know that Renault puts a strong focus on safety, that's what they are known for).
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hows s spare part for kango?

btw, a rough google in mudah, shows most 2nd hand r from company car. guess d condition r pretty bad since its company car.

n also issit 3 row car or 2 row? coz i see d pic, its 2 row.. d back like for storage?
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 2 2012, 11:54 AM)
wat brand suspension u change?
m also interested to buy 2nd hand avanza. 1.3liter manual. mayb roughly around 25k + 5k (replacing wear n tear parts + trasnfer n insurance fees).

not interested wit auto.. drove toyota harrier d, although its super comfort n big capacity engine, but d trhottle respon sucks to max..
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I forgot what kind of absorber I changed. I am not really car enthusiast. I went to this shop in kepong. Found the contact from online. This guy used to post a lot in this forum selling car parts but nowadays he is less active probably due to business is good. His nick is zendengohzendengoh. The absorber I changes is mid range only. I didn't want to invest too much into cars. I could have changed to better absorber and spring. Then ride would be sweet. But I ops for mid-range solution. Price/performance.

The car itself is okay. I have changes some engine parts...some five ring or something..I forgot the exact name. You know lah..those Ah beng shops and their pronunciation is really off. Also replaced the alternator before. My car is already 7 years old and still okay. If it's proton, I am sure it is already time to change. I owned proton before, so I would know. Sure, it's not great car...it used to be top cheapest SUV where it was once a popular stolen car. Since then a lot of other brands already came out with better offer. However, toyota is known for their reliability. It is not perfect (some parts replaced) but it is a good combination of price, fc (1.3liter only) and service. I can't say the same for p1 or p2. At least for me, I send all my services to Toyota. They will check everything nicely and tell me what's wrong. When parts need to be changed, I do it in Ah beng shop with ori parts. Save me tons. It's a family car and suv/mpv. Definitely not for people who want powerful ride.
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yup... d avanza is for a mpv family car used and carry some item... if u wan a very comfort ride and a power hungry car better take other.....
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QUOTE(abubin @ Dec 3 2012, 02:30 PM)
I forgot what kind of absorber I changed. I am not really car enthusiast. I went to this shop in kepong. Found the contact from online. This guy used to post a lot in this forum selling car parts but nowadays he is less active probably due to business is good. His nick is zendengohzendengoh. The absorber I changes is mid range only. I didn't want to invest too much into cars. I could have changed to better absorber and spring. Then ride would be sweet. But I ops for mid-range solution. Price/performance.

The car itself is okay. I have changes some engine parts...some five ring or something..I forgot the exact name. You know lah..those Ah beng shops and their pronunciation is really off. Also replaced the alternator before. My car is already 7 years old and still okay. If it's proton, I am sure it is already time to change. I owned proton before, so I would know. Sure, it's not great car...it used to be top cheapest SUV where it was once a popular stolen car. Since then a lot of other brands already came out with better offer. However, toyota is known for their reliability. It is not perfect (some parts replaced) but it is a good combination of price, fc (1.3liter only) and service. I can't say the same for p1 or p2. At least for me, I send all my services to Toyota. They will check everything nicely and tell me what's wrong. When parts need to be changed, I do it in Ah beng shop with ori parts. Save me tons. It's a family car and suv/mpv. Definitely not for people who want powerful ride.
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ic. understood. not looking for performance but comfort.
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 3 2012, 02:16 PM)
buy from owner lo. 25-30k is fair value of d car.

year 05-06
hows s spare part for kango?

btw, a rough google in mudah, shows most 2nd hand r from company car. guess d condition r pretty  bad since its company car.

n also issit 3 row car or 2 row? coz i see d pic, its 2 row.. d back like for storage?
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There are a few petrol 1.4 auto that are non commercial. I bought one that was used as a family car, great condition, 5 years old, 25k. Always serviced at the SC, always on time.

The manual 1.5 diesel has better performance and is very economic, but was only sold commercially sad.gif

Spare parts are ok IF you can get them from Singapore. Then you can chose between original and non-original, and prices are much better than in Malaysia. Also almost everything got stock. If you have to get through TCEAS you may have to wait, to be honest. So ideally you have contacts in SG or can travel there. Otherwise an Avanza may be a wiser choice, not sure.

2 row, with an optional 3rd row bench. Some cars have it, some not. You can remove the bench to make more space, but reinstalling can be difficult if the screw drops (I asked the SC to weld them to the car... laugh.gif ).
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The car can lean a bit in corners (if you drive fast), and there is oversteering if you really push it (I do have Michelin XM2, which are rather rubbish for fast driving). But I find the handling to be rather unterrifying and comfortable, even at 140-150. The gearbox is of the "what on earth is it thinking" sort (Renault claims it is intelligent and learns... must be a mentally challenged one), and being a 4 speed performance is... well, it's not a sports car. I drive it pretty hard and get around 10-11l/100km, but I often accelerate full throttle (and usually I'm the fastest). The Kangoo has 75 hp. Don't expect it to be fast... top speed probably 140-150. But it won't scare you at those speeds.

The Alza is quieter, but less comfortable.

It was also designed to be easy to maintain and repair, changing the wing mirror can be done in a minute, with only one screwdriver. Plastics are robust, but feel a bit cheap.

I have heard many positive comments by passengers, and all the critical comments by family uncles and aunties died down once they have been passenger. Even people who drive VW or BMW. Girls also seem to like it... the design. It's cute. laugh.gif (Well, Australian girls anyway). Some passengers consider buying one.

In any case all I am suggesting is finding one and test driving it. Also do the same with the Avanza and whatever other options there are (Fiat Multipla? Well, if you are blind anyway). The Kangoo is very popular in Europe, not just with companies. If you prefer the Avanza, by all means get one. Just don't think the Avanza is the only option on the market.

Hm. I can list what I have changed. Owned it for 2 years now, bought when it was 5 years old (with 80k on the clock, now 105k).

At 80k catalytic converter was replaced by a not so good, not original one. More like a silencer sad.gif . Original ones are damn expensive. Around 7k shocking.gif Paid way less than that (didn't know I could go to SG back then, maybe otherwise it would have been more affordable.) Auto gearbox btw. around 6k, but I haven't had to change it. The pump for the front windscreen washer was already broken when I bought it, replaced it. Only part I ever bought from the SC (previous owner agreed to pay). At 90k the motor for the central locking in the boot failed, got one for like 30 SGD from a Singaporean chop shop. Also some rubber parts to keep the steering and suspension system clean were replaced. At 100k rear brake cylinder and the thing that presses against the drum were replaced, front brake pads also. Engine mounting and gearbox mounting. Absorbers changed (I think... small parts? Rubber IIRC? Not the big shock absorbers). Power steering switch changed (raises the idle when full lock... not really necessary to change). All changes except for the catalytic converter were done at the SC, they give me the parts number so I can look for parts elsewhere. Sometimes original, sometimes not, they don't mind (and non original can be much cheaper). I also have the private phone number of the service advisor, so whenever there is something I can contact him directly.

I think these things are all rather reasonable, especially since I do make use of the decent suspension. I don't go like a snail over speed bumps for example. There is no need to. In the Rusa I take off at 10 km/h, in my car 20 km/h not even uncomfortable. Up and down, that's all.

Btw. when new the Kangoo was around 70+k, so a bit more than the Avanza at the same time. There are some with a rather nice looking leather. If possible also look for a unit with the 2nd row aircon blower. You'll want it. Really. I do.


Added on December 3, 2012, 10:25 pm
QUOTE(kenny79 @ Dec 3 2012, 12:00 PM)
I'm just shop a used avanza 1.3 m 2007....used for week already quit ok with it.
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What do you mean? You drove an Avanza for a week, and are already fed up with it?

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nice info. not really like d kangoo design, but d practical part of it seems awesome.

is there more info on chop shop/service centre / 3rd party workshop/china brand replacement parts for renault around kl area?

m gettin a mpv most probably next year.

d catalysic convertor is really nesscary? cannot direct throw away? i knew some car threw it away. not sure ab kanggo though.

thinkin to swap in carburetor to replace injection since alot prob heard alot sensors problem..lol
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Dec 3 2012, 10:17 PM)
There are a few petrol 1.4 auto that are non commercial. I bought one that was used as a family car, great condition, 5 years old, 25k. Always serviced at the SC, always on time.

The manual 1.5 diesel has better performance and is very economic, but was only sold commercially sad.gif

Spare parts are ok IF you can get them from Singapore. Then you can chose between original and non-original, and prices are much better than in Malaysia. Also almost everything got stock. If you have to get through TCEAS you may have to wait, to be honest. So ideally you have contacts in SG or can travel there. Otherwise an Avanza may be a wiser choice, not sure.

2 row, with an optional 3rd row bench. Some cars have it, some not. You can remove the bench to make more space, but reinstalling can be difficult if the screw drops (I asked the SC to weld them to the car... laugh.gif ).
user posted image

The car can lean a bit in corners (if you drive fast), and there is oversteering if you really push it (I do have Michelin XM2, which are rather rubbish for fast driving). But I find the handling to be rather unterrifying and comfortable, even at 140-150. The gearbox is of the "what on earth is it thinking" sort (Renault claims it is intelligent and learns... must be a mentally challenged one), and being a 4 speed performance is... well, it's not a sports car. I drive it pretty hard and get around 10-11l/100km, but I often accelerate full throttle (and usually I'm the fastest). The Kangoo has 75 hp. Don't expect it to be fast... top speed probably 140-150. But it won't scare you at those speeds.

The Alza is quieter, but less comfortable.

It was also designed to be easy to maintain and repair, changing the wing mirror can be done in a minute, with only one screwdriver. Plastics are robust, but feel a bit cheap.

I have heard many positive comments by passengers, and all the critical comments by family uncles and aunties died down once they have been passenger. Even people who drive VW or BMW. Girls also seem to like it... the design. It's cute. laugh.gif (Well, Australian girls anyway). Some passengers consider buying one.

In any case all I am suggesting is finding one and test driving it. Also do the same with the Avanza and whatever other options there are (Fiat Multipla? Well, if you are blind anyway). The Kangoo is very popular in Europe, not just with companies. If you prefer the Avanza, by all means get one. Just don't think the Avanza is the only option on the market.

Hm. I can list what I have changed. Owned it for 2 years now, bought when it was 5 years old (with 80k on the clock, now 105k).

At 80k catalytic converter was replaced by a not so good, not original one. More like a silencer sad.gif . Original ones are damn expensive. Around 7k shocking.gif Paid way less than that (didn't know I could go to SG back then, maybe otherwise it would have been more affordable.) Auto gearbox btw. around 6k, but I haven't had to change it. The pump for the front windscreen washer was already broken when I bought it, replaced it. Only part I ever bought from the SC (previous owner agreed to pay). At 90k the motor for the central locking in the boot failed, got one for like 30 SGD from a Singaporean chop shop. Also some rubber parts to keep the steering and suspension system clean were replaced. At 100k rear brake cylinder and the thing that presses against the drum were replaced, front brake pads also. Engine mounting and gearbox mounting. Absorbers changed (I think... small parts? Rubber IIRC? Not the big shock absorbers). Power steering switch changed (raises the idle when full lock... not really necessary to change). All changes except for the catalytic converter were done at the SC, they give me the parts number so I can look for parts elsewhere. Sometimes original, sometimes not, they don't mind (and non original can be much cheaper). I also have the private phone number of the service advisor, so whenever there is something I can contact him directly.

I think these things are all rather reasonable, especially since I do make use of the decent suspension. I don't go like a snail over speed bumps for example. There is no need to. In the Rusa I take off at 10 km/h, in my car 20 km/h not even uncomfortable. Up and down, that's all.

Btw. when new the Kangoo was around 70+k, so a bit more than the Avanza at the same time. There are some with a rather nice looking leather. If possible also look for a unit with the 2nd row aircon blower. You'll want it. Really. I do.


Added on December 3, 2012, 10:25 pm
What do you mean? You drove an Avanza for a week, and are already fed up with it?
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yes i do buy a used avanza 1.3m at rm26800 2006 car... quit ok from my friend he is upgrade d car

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nice info. not really like d kangoo design, but d practical part of it seems awesome.

is there more info on chop shop/service centre / 3rd party workshop/china brand replacement parts for renault around kl area?

m gettin a mpv most probably next year.

d catalysic convertor is really nesscary? cannot direct throw away? i knew some car threw it away. not sure ab kanggo though.

thinkin to swap in carburetor to replace injection since alot prob heard alot sensors problem..lol
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Sorry for the late reply. Was quite busy.

I know there is a non-official SC in KL that is supposed to be really good. Can't remember which one though (there shouldn't be too many Renault oriented ones...). Maybe they'll also know more about spare parts in KL. Btw. the OEM ones are not necessarily from China, I also have German made non-original parts for example. Well, at least by German brands, where they are actually produced...

Do test drive it, and see how you like it. You can also look at the ads they ran in Europe, some are rather funny.

The car can drive without the catalytic converter, however the exhaust gases will be quite bad for the environment and others. So if possible please do have one. Maybe if I find an affordable one I'll refit it...

I don't have any engine problems. Had more problems with carburetors than with modern engines, and that's despite not even having owned one. I only see downsides to carburetors. If you do want to change the engine... the Waja 1.8X has an engine that was used in the Clio II, and the Kangoo is very much based on that one. If you like speed the 170 hp 2.0 from the Clio Williams will fit. Also possible should be the 1.2 from the Proton Savvy, actually the 1.4 used in the Kangoo in Malaysia was in other countries replaced by the 1.2. My favorite would probably be the 1.5 diesel (apart from the 2.0 of course). Frugal, should be long lasting. My old Renault diesel had 255k on the clock when I sold it, and the engine was still going strong.

@Kenny: Congrats! That price sounds rather low for an Avanza. Manual somemore...
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yup d price is really lowwer thenmarket price ..
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any ida the new avanza price now for 1.5e n wat offer now
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Avanza really can feels the car as bumpy ride all the road. TS you might be reconsider others car.

What I saw and feel sad to the owner.
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won't the new avanza already soft it
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Avanza really can feels the car as bumpy ride all the road. TS you might be reconsider others car.

What I saw and feel sad to the owner.
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just change the absorber will solve this problem. No need to feel sorry. Most typical drivers doesn't know or care about this as driver's side doesn't feel this. This is considered minor problem compared to getting a car with gearbox problem or engine not reliable after 5 years and so on. Look at that kangoo..7k for parts not even the original.

I also see old wira/waja when cross bump bounce like crazy. Then again, some changed their absorber to super powderful where they can pass speed bumps at high speed also no problem. So I should feel sorry for the bump for being abused?

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ermm hear sa told got improvement on new avanza
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QUOTE(abubin @ Jul 10 2013, 11:44 AM)
just change the absorber will solve this problem. No need to feel sorry. Most typical drivers doesn't know or care about this as driver's side doesn't feel this. This is considered minor problem compared to getting a car with gearbox problem or engine not reliable after 5 years and so on. Look at that kangoo..7k for parts not even the original.

I also see old wira/waja when cross bump bounce like crazy. Then again, some changed their absorber to super powderful where they can pass speed bumps at high speed also no problem. So I should feel sorry for the bump for being abused?
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What? 7k for parts? Where? Only the catalytic converter is that expensive, and that is an original part. Aftermarket or from SG I would probably have gotten a much better price. I don't think I spent 7k for parts in 3 years... probably more like 2k or so. Wear and tear lah. I think gearbox they told me was like 3 or 4k... I don't think you'd spend less on other brands.

No problems with engine reliability or the gearbox, and the car is 8 years old now. Why can't the bloody gearbox die?!
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let me repeat the wonder prices of UMW here also

RM3k for ONE drive shaft and RM1.5k for ONE shock
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let me repeat the wonder prices of UMW here also

RM3k for ONE drive shaft and RM1.5k for ONE shock
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And don't forget that awesome handbrake button. laugh.gif

Before getting a new Avanza I would look at the Alza, Exora, Grand Livina, Freed and Eastar first.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 10 2013, 01:54 PM)
What? 7k for parts? Where? Only the catalytic converter is that expensive, and that is an original part. Aftermarket or from SG I would probably have gotten a much better price. I don't think I spent 7k for parts in 3 years... probably more like 2k or so. Wear and tear lah. I think gearbox they told me was like 3 or 4k... I don't think you'd spend less on other brands.

No problems with engine reliability or the gearbox, and the car is 8 years old now. Why can't the bloody gearbox die?!
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oh..ok ok..you just quoting the prices. As long as car reliable then it should be fine. Doesn't matter it's what brand.

and I agree..there are a lot of other better brand than avanza in the market now. Especially for secondhand cars...it really depend a lot on how the owner take care of the car.
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oh..ok ok..you just quoting the prices. As long as car reliable then it should be fine. Doesn't matter it's what brand.

and I agree..there are a lot of other better brand than avanza in the market now. Especially for secondhand cars...it really depend a lot on how the owner take care of the car.
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Yup. I agree. And TC (like most SC probably) will wring you out when buying parts from them, luckily their workmanship isn't expensive though.

Most important though is the previous owner (and you yourself as an owner). Always service properly on time, always replace parts on time, how they drove, ...

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