hi ,

I want to know and learn steel welding in penang mainalnd.

is it a short course , or i can get small fire and cutting equipment and learn myself ?
just normal steeel bar/block and pipe weld .

not some industrial / sea things .

i very interested this.

This post has been edited by myva: Nov 22 2012, 12:40 AM

u want to get some sort of cert or what? i mean what purpose..
if just to learn for DIY, go part time at welding shop la..
can learn & get some cash bro

if u go those gomen course u'll get less learning, but more wasting time

i want direct learn DIY , part time learn abit hard , my place wleding is my ex shop neighbour ,

they not stupid hire me , they hire 50 year old single man and bangla only....

they dowan people become competitor lol....

i think want buy the fire , and cutter la , learn myself can a

sure can.. dah nama pun DIY

better for u not to try the oxy-acet first.. it's space & cost consuming.
just research a bit on arc welding/SMAW..
go buy a grinder & a mini/hand held welding set one, & u are good to go

This post has been edited by C.B.S: Nov 22 2012, 01:20 AM

i have zero knowledge can learn myself or not?

sure can la.. see youtube
SMAW is the easiest & simplest type of method

: )

welding +10 manliness

I'm thinking the same thing. But in KL instead of Penang. Been watching quite a few of those youtube videos. Does not look that hard. But I have some remaining questions.

I see C.B.S says SMAW, but anyone have more detailed recommendations on the equipment? Where to get, what to get, approximately how much it will cost (simple set for beginnner).

Can get 2nd hand. Where. Is it advisable, or would a newbie be better off buying new (since they cannot evaluate if the equipment is good or defective).

but welding come with risk ,to health ,

i now also takut want do

This post has been edited by myva: Nov 22 2012, 07:48 PM

i use this brand. local made
http://www.wim.com.my/webpages/wimproducts...=Stick%20(SMAW)
used mildly for DIY, 5-6 yrs ady.. no issue since day one. cost me ard rm500
other than that, u'll need grinder, gloves & face mask. rm200+

if getting a 2nd hand, better to ask what purpose it used prev-ly.. if used in welding shop, better not.. if for maintenance, diy etc i think no prob..

for me, ironworks are easier than woodworks. Potong & weld here n there, shape it & u'll get a strong everlasting product.

my advice;

when u weld a vertical joint, start from top to bottom, not bottom to top. many places u see people weld bottom to top, result look like melted candles.

U want to bukak bisnes pagar ka?

my advice,

A lot of practice and

After u done ur practice,pls take panadol b4 u go to sleep,if not...next day u will 'cry' a lot.

Been there done that

Lol.. cry for 2days.. seriouslypain..

TS, I would seriously suggest you to take part time enrollment. Get yourself certified.

Welding is serious business. Our government's vocational scheme, SKM (Sijil Kemahiran Malaysia), as far as I recall, is still widely recognized. Even if you take part time, 2 years is all you need to get a LEVEL 3 certification (which is pretty darn good, enough to apply to work with major weldsmen).

Level 4 and Level 5 is mainly for high-risk welding (like underwater welding, etc).

But i really would suggest, even if its basic, get a level 1 certification from any places that does SKM certification level 1.

how much the cost to enroll , i interested , just basic certification.........

CIDB ada.
Not sure the training is good at cidb or not but i know they offered welding course.

http://www.cidb.gov.my/cidbweb/index.php?lang=en

Let say u change ur mind not going training or course but want to DIY,
just make sure u practice safety first.
Always wear safety glass, glove.

Seriously bro? I find it much easier to weld from bottom to top when doin vertical...

depends on where you are... i am not sure how to help. io'll try though.

enroll to course is basic understanding and also how to operate with safety.
To do good welding all u need is practice, and practice makes perfects!! I seen alot ppl with those cert recognise by government weld sucks than those indons without cert.

you seem like a pro so 1 question, do yo have a some kind of 'rule' saying that for each welding rod it should cover only few inch ?

ask yourself again
what you want to weld
what material you want to weld

no need to go course unless you seeking for certification to work in marine / oil&gas

the best way & cheap to learn is get yourself electrical welding at hardware shop ... if not mistaken about RM1xx for fanless welding box

easiest will be CO2 but machine n gas tank will cost you around 3k

if you looking for precise & small welding, argon welding will be the best but expensive

remember always always have SAFETY googles & gloves

I learn welding in University at IUKL (previously KLIUC). Under Automotive Engineering course.
They thought us welding with stick welding and MIG welding.
Is not hard, is matter of getting that comfortable position.

Never happen to me.

what a wastes if lidat.. even if the rod is rusty i still use it, till really near the other end..
as long as it joints & chun, sure can la. diy one no need have to surpass certain test etc

i no pro der. i think more like hardcore-ed addicts to diy. especially welding.
compared to masonry & woodworking, what you can make & use by welding are limitless. fr auto, furnishing, house-related etc.. plus it last longer & the cost is cheap too

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Added on November 27, 2012, 10:05 pmtrue that.. it's not hard to get the 'comfortable' post.. depends on our steady hands to get it done in right way

the teary-eyes is bcos of the smoke + inefficient air circulation.. which are typically happen at gomen training centre

This post has been edited by C.B.S: Nov 27 2012, 10:05 PM

bro , you dont know welding dont teach people lah.....

vertical welding is from bottom move toward top lah .....

people only do from top to bottom is because it easier to weld that way , but often time the weld is in very poor quality

even my bangla at my factory know the correct way to weld ........



KLIUC welding course sucks .....
i know that because i m from KLIUC also !

If arc welding, remember to cover up properly. Else kena "sun burn".

I agree on that. At least from nothing at all, to something.
Just welding course or what?
For me, they only teach how to do beading and how to do T join.
Because the class involve with machining, so only 1 month i think learn. That is only like 1 class per week.
And the rest of the week only learn to do machining.

Any part-time course or short-term for own hobby/DIY ?

i mean to get a better welding, or you increase the current setting?

i heard welding the sperm quality reduced , thus risk wont get babies ...........

is it true

possibly the fumes from welding but that is why they recommend that welding be done in a properly ventilated space.

as long as you cover yourself up properly with welding specific PPE, you shouldn't have to worry.

the steel block etc is take from who, is it take direct from factory like southern steel?

or take from dealer .

can take for little ?

the weld that you make in the training does little to nothing when you step outside for work......
the metal plate they using around 3 mm thickness , which is freaking easy to weld
even a newbie can learn how to weld that without a hole .....


i learn the the truth is a cruel way after i finish my course
i work as a welder , the pipe / metal plate that currently using in the industry
usually around 1mm , 1.6mm , 2.3mm , 3mm thickness

even the usage of 2.3 and 3 mm is not common.....
if you apply the same way you learn i can guaranty you all you see is HOLES ......

i embarrass my self on my 1st day to work
only to know the world is freaking huge....

usually any hardware sell it. some hardware provide cut off saw for u to get the bars to be cut & fit it in ur car.
deswai i suggest u buy a grinder + a smaw set. u can plan the measurement 1st & straightaway cut at the shop.
the grinder is just for u to trim or maybe do some correction cutting only

yes u can buy even 1 piece. i always use 1"/3mm/6m angle bar if using smaw. around rm30/pcs

if u buy from dealer/steel hardware the price will be much lower

hahaha, true.
cause they don't even teach you how to setup the machine.
give you metal plate, go do beading.


seriously, if they had a class for welding only and machining only.
it better. kinda waste time just learn that only.
i really find welding fun.

i hope that i will able to get a welding machine for self learning in the future.

EDIT: since now you work as a welder, what kind of welding you do?

This post has been edited by bo093: Nov 30 2012, 06:57 PM

any hardware shop got sell steel block ?




This post has been edited by myva: Nov 30 2012, 09:06 PM

mostly SMAW and MIG welding .....
TIG also have but i m not qualify for that, usually my senior take over TIG

TIG is very hard to learn since usually we only weld TIG on stainless steel pipe
and the pipe we using is freaking thin, 0.8 mm , the thickest only 1.6mm.....



just go any hardware store they should have it,

the picture you showing is 1x1 & 2x1 (inch) or can refer to as 25mm x 25mm , 50mm x 25mm
thickness is 2.3mm ?

This post has been edited by katsumoto2011: Dec 1 2012, 03:35 PM

this is hollow bar. very not advisable for smaw or beginner. if MIG can la.. if u try weld on these sure lobang2 one
these hollow bar harder to get at most hardware as it only used in grill works.

what do u wan to diy actually?

i want do sporst equipment and rack

another is i want do at home outside , the neighbour and people can not satisfy?

This post has been edited by myva: Dec 2 2012, 10:28 AM

it remind me during 2nd semester , 1 of the subject for evry engineering student required to do welding.. got 2 types of welding, fire using methane and oxygen n electric welding which common nowadays...

the fire type quite hard as while welding halfway, the metal will blow (quite loud) n the spark are all over the place

the metal will blow because the surface is not clean or the metal got mix with other contaminant

that why before welding you must prepare the surface ......

didint your teacher teach you that ???

so anyone here got experience making armor or something like that?

if welding do at home , neighbour can report ?

my opposite neighbour is doing aluminium frame ,
cutting use circular handheld saw.
i from opposite can hear , i bet his beside neighbour sure suffer.....

but he clever , he maintain a good relations with all neighbour ,
and help neighbour ,

coz he dont want get himself trouble.........

i wan to learn too....do lot of research, thinking buying a TIG machine,bc it can do ARC weld too.... any advice?..or i should go for MIG?

prepare yourself for sandy eyes

If just normal welding it's quite easy, just remember eye shield and breathing mask and heavy duty gloves and also a fire extinguisher just in case.

If industrial welding is very tricky. Need to take exams. Because different materials react differently to different welds. Temperature, humidity, weld pattern, thickness etc need to be taken into consideration. Because later they will X-Ray the weld for inspection. Also after welding need to do grinding to smooth out the surface, and also paint it.

normal arc welding ok la

gas shielded one how o?

welding can help in carpentry work. those island at kitchen, u need weld hollow section to receive granite / marble as top. not bad le.

if u are serious u can contact me.

no i dont know how to do welding but i know many vendors who do.

ekceli u can work in my yard part time if you're interested. paid by the hour. can learn lots of things.

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Dec 27 2012, 11:01 PM

where r u from ,

i from sps

my yard is in bagan lallang, mak mandin.

where is sps??

seberang perai selatan ,

mak mandin far , quacker oat ; D

yes, quacker oats there...somewhere that road.