Hey there, I am currently doing 2nd year of Computer science at university of birmingham.
I am coming back to Malaysia this summer (June - September) I was wondering, if there is any IT related jobs that I can find? I don't want to work in starbucks or those kind of jobs. I think I want to concentrate on what I'm studying now. Do you think it's alright to become a IT helpdesk? web designer? I don't think i can become a very good programmer yet hehe..

You can try any software house in your area.

i don't think there is a company that wanna hire you for a short period of time.
maybe you should do some freelancing.

If u r no good @ programming after graduate, don't call urself IT graduate.

is that so? how come i don't notice that?


there is nothing wrong working as IT helpdesk or web designer don't worry, but as you can see the competition of fresh graduate will be there.

Bet you're one of the poor programmers... if he managed to graduate with an IT Degree, he IS an IT graduate... just not that competent in programming, there are many other things he can do with the IT degree...

And btw, Computer Science & Software Engineering are the 2 main streams (and some others) of programming degree, don't just call them IT if you don't know the difference

OK I admit, I don't really know the diff on IT or Comp Sc degree. My point is, make sure u learn the programming well.

This post has been edited by Ah-Ba: Mar 5 2006, 05:38 PM

programming is the prerequisite for any computer science students before they graduate. it's useless if u cant program with your CS cert.

Yeah there are a lot of companies that take in trainees, temp. But dont expect the job to be gratifying or to be something you expect (i.e. programming). Most companies would not want to let trainees/temp to do actual development because once they leave, they have to spend resources in skill transfers and maintenance of the written code. So it doesnt make business sense. Trainees/temps often end up doing testing, documentation, support, mock-ups, etc. But hey, if you're an undergraduate, any of those stuff, no matter how boring/tedious, is still a good experience. Even full-fledged programmers should have some experience, if not a lot, in these areas.

Yes, you are right. But I don't understand why company hired so many trainee, in the end didn't provide them a good training ground, some trainee do documentation, some do this and that. If they want admin stuff, they should get a probable staff right? I guess they use trainee as cheap labour, who ever last long enough, means they are loyal to the company? I don't understand, anyone knows?

If you know programming, the career scope would be a lot wider and better for u. u might want to consider taking those ccna or microsft or java certs for better chance of employment.

Yes it is cheap labor, but I dont see any problems with hiring trainees/interns that are still in college/uni to do technical documentation, QA, or testing. Sure it is not as good as hands on programming, but the trainee do get expose and a chance to experience and learn about writing technical docs, QA and testing. These are valuable experience for a developer. A good software developer should know how to write technical docs, perform QA (even if it is just simple functional QA on the piece of function he/she has implemented) as well as unit testing their code. All these skill are things a developer/programmer needs to learn eventually. So learning it while you're a trainee/intern is not a waste of time.

programming is the essence of IT but not an essential for IT graduates, i for one after years of freelancing (asp,php,vb, mysql, ms sql) during my studies decided to retired from programming after graduated and pursue a career in management and happy with it, programming is currently not my thang yo.

I prefer to order people around than being ordered

Hey Im really interested in project management now though cause I really luv doing that

get yourself a PMBOK cert and learn the six sigma, that could help you alot