QUOTE(GP mad man @ Nov 23 2012, 05:44 PM)
Just now say no money wanna pay insurance road tax, now say wanna soundproof firewall....Not cheap alsoPROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V35, Hali hali bikin keleta ooh, haiyoh...
PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V35, Hali hali bikin keleta ooh, haiyoh...
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Nov 23 2012, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Nov 23 2012, 05:56 PM) Sorry for using the work "kick in"...maybe it is more suitable for those Turbo car ba.. As you move up the RPM range you wil accelerate faster and faster because the engine is generating more and more torque, until you reach 4k RPM when the torque will decrease after that.What I mean is when the IAFM started to work or something GREAT happen to the engine, I can notice a the RPM accelerate faster. For example I am going around 50km/h which RPM around 2.2k like that. While the RPM going up slowly suddenly I feel the engine sound like "kick in" and the RPM go higher constantly in a faster pace and the car will feel more acceleration than normal (while doing 50km/h). Is this acceleration feel caused by the IAFM ? bcz I can be sure something happened in the range of 2.2k - 3.2k RPM which causes the car to be more LIVELY. Maybe no kick in effect la but I am sure it must be due to the IAFM. Anyway to not pro-long this "kick-in effect" right or wrong or maybe it is just my imagination afterall Thanks guys for prodiving useful information to me Just refer to the torque curve in the pdf document I posted about the IAFM. Added on November 23, 2012, 6:13 pm QUOTE(mengsuan @ Nov 23 2012, 06:00 PM) This is interesting, I always thought IAFM changes intake length just for torque dip zone. You are right that the IAFM and VIM was developed to fix the torque dip, just not as directly as you thought Anyway, some technical research paper for the interested: http://ejum.fsktm.um.edu.my/article/686.pdf CFE skipped the whole variable intake manifold shebang by using VVT. This post has been edited by dares: Nov 23 2012, 06:13 PM |
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Nov 23 2012, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Nov 23 2012, 09:26 PM) dun understand Added on November 23, 2012, 9:40 pm QUOTE(kenjilew @ Nov 23 2012, 09:21 PM) Tomoro most likely kansel This post has been edited by dares: Nov 23 2012, 09:40 PM |
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Nov 23 2012, 10:36 PM
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Nov 23 2012, 10:39 PM
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Nov 23 2012, 10:42 PM
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Nov 23 2012, 10:49 PM
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My FLX SE also had the tek tek tek tek sound when new, but not as loud.
Added on November 23, 2012, 10:50 pm QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 23 2012, 10:46 PM) part of it is due to the faulty gearbox which sometimes wont shift up. And occasionally, when you stomp on the throttle, it will straight away drop two gears. The result is, engine going bonkers, roaring at 5,000rpm~8,000rpm i gonna return it tomorrow and swear to god, my saga is so much better. The saga has better throttle response, it has better low end power, it has better suspension (for cornering). lol Even if my throttle isn't "nut-ed" yet, the response is still much better. lucky I dint buy over that car. This post has been edited by dares: Nov 23 2012, 10:50 PM |
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Nov 23 2012, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 23 2012, 10:52 PM) Mana tau dier, engine knocking badly gua QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 23 2012, 10:52 PM) yup. I oso heard it before from an auntie's car going pasar. lol Ignorance is bliss. makes me wondering, they really dont know it is a problem or they choose to be ignorant about it... IAFM problem? what is IAFM? I oni know Ai.FM, no problem ah! |
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Nov 23 2012, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 23 2012, 10:58 PM) Sometimes ignorance got its advantage too geh. Know too much like us, will always scratch our head to find the solution, waste of time and money. True also. Sometimes hear some minor sound that is out of normal, whole nite kenot sleep Added on November 23, 2012, 11:02 pm QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 23 2012, 10:57 PM) i open the CRV hood today to check on the power steering fluid and I noticed there's some date and mileage written on the block. I guess my friend's father has the engine rebuilt before. Rebuilt on 2009. I guess he was facing knocking issues too back then. This post has been edited by dares: Nov 23 2012, 11:02 PM |
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Nov 23 2012, 11:48 PM
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I dunno whether to laugh or cry at the stupidity that continues to plague our automotive industry
Honda Jazz Hybrid CKD – From 89,900 QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 23 2012, 02:11 PM) - Drum Brake All the good stuffs thrown out, for a measly RM5k in price reduction from a CBU unit. And when the tax exemption is retracted, we are once again stuck with a sub-par sushi hybrid car.- 2 Airbags - No Paddleshift - No Cruise Control - Not leather wrapped steering - No buttons on steering - No auto sensor(s) on windscreen and for lights |
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 23 2012, 11:50 PM) Such features reduction alone should cost down more than 5k, somemore consider CKD, only 5k from CBU is non sense. QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 23 2012, 11:56 PM) from the beginning, 95,000 for a tax free hybrid is already a joke, considering the petrol variant costs RM105,000 with tax. lol I wonder how it would sell after the tax exemption is retracted It is so stripped down the only reason to buy it is because of it's low FC. But I can probably get the upcoming Kia Rio or Chevy sonic for...say....RM70-80k? RM10-20k is alot of petrol Not to forget that Honda's IMA isn't really as efficient as Toyota's HSD. I also wonder what the CKD Prius C will be like |
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Nov 24 2012, 01:51 AM) hi all, maybe im late on the news, dunno whether u already noted coz this saga thread is really fast n furious,just sharing a bit info. Ecu n tcu reflash for iafm+ for flx n flx se is available now, but not sure whether all already has that. For the moment i heard only branch sc has it,whether prtn@eon. If u updated the ecu n tcu, do share ur review. Bye. Any details as to what aspects of the ECU/TCU does the update addresses? |
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Nov 24 2012, 09:25 AM
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Nov 24 2012, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(vantoria @ Nov 24 2012, 09:52 AM) allrighto. G'morning guys, just got my new unit of SE this week. Been driving it for weeks. It's awesome. Although persona is nice to but i prefer this small sedan car size for me. =D Just got it this week but drove it for weeks This post has been edited by dares: Nov 24 2012, 09:54 AM |
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 24 2012, 10:18 AM) TBH, the only benefit from the recent Preve ECU update is the VVT cleaning function. The new mapping sucks. For the old mapping, there is a solution for the lag. Issit, Allen and a few owners say gooding wor NUT. lol Added on November 24, 2012, 10:29 am QUOTE(ckdenion @ Nov 24 2012, 10:29 AM) This post has been edited by dares: Nov 24 2012, 10:29 AM |
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Nov 24 2012, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 24 2012, 11:07 AM) no need to reduce parking on slope. Just practice timbang timbang the throttle. lol I know in D the CVT has hillhold assist, R dont have kah?treat it like a manual, without a mechanical clutch. Added on November 24, 2012, 3:51 pm QUOTE(modskywalker @ Nov 24 2012, 01:42 PM) Hi SAGA owner, I thinking to get a proton saga FLX 1.6 Se this month. Before i made the booking can anyone/new owner share your experience with me? There are no issues unique to the FLX SE. the drumbrake sounds, rattlings are present in all FLX, but nothing that hurts drivability or safety.I have test drive the car and i heard the sound from the CVT when pickup, do anyone also feel the same? I need more advise like problems with the 1.6 cvt model , what to check when getting the car. This post has been edited by dares: Nov 24 2012, 03:51 PM |
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QUOTE(modskywalker @ Nov 24 2012, 05:01 PM) do you mean every saga sure have sound from drumbrake? Not every FLX, depends on your luck. some also get exhaust buzzing after 2k RPM, most dont, though.Both are known issues to Proton and fixable. |
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QUOTE(modskywalker @ Nov 24 2012, 05:05 PM) besides those you mentioned is the CVT grearbox will bring any problems? the sound of the cvt during pickup is normal? CVT malfunctions are far and few in between...there are a few members with problematic CVT but mosy are problem free.The CVT is manufactured by a reputable Belgium manufacturer who also set up a division here wih their staff to handle Protons CVT problems. The CVT whine during acceleration is normal. |
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