not even a problem but want to exaggerate.

when claim warranty, only take out. normal service, not necessary to take out.

both are different item which connects to different component which serves different purpose. Imagine you have a piece of steak. Without salt, it would be bland, and without pepper, it would be only salty but not spicy. WIth both salt and pepper = ???

lol wad. What no power steering? lolz.

it has power steering and it is a bit to the heavy side.

What is your previous car/the car you're driving currently?

Not trying to bad mouth almera here, but can you actually feel where your car is going/turning during on straight road and also during cornering? I feel so disconnected from the car when I am test driving the Almera.

almost all Proton cars has weighted steering for a reason; it offers better feedback and instill confidence during cornering, part of it is to compliment the "Proton Ride & Handling".

"too much feedback".

if you stomp on the accelerator and expect the car hits 100kmh in a blink of an eye, then sorry to say, you're not used to CVT characteristic yet. Eventually, you will find fault with the Preve as well unless your mindset adapts to how CVT works.

Well, both of us has different perception on "expectation", "feel good" and "decent feedback". Perhaps its due to the difference on how each of us look at cars and how the car behaves like according to our own preference.

Furthermore, when you have set your mind (and money) to get a Preve, why bother looking at other rubbish car like the Saga. Just get the Preve Premium which comes with almost all the bell and whistle. At least you don't need to fix the car everyday like Saga owners do and the chances of getting osteoporosis is significantly lower in the Preve than the Saga.

Another plus point is, the recent ECU remap helps significantly in city driving.

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Added on November 19, 2012, 1:43 amand no, the steering wheel cant get any lighter.

unless you rajin rajin terjun lubang and loosen up some parts of the steering and suspension parts.

This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Nov 19 2012, 01:43 AM

can fit reverse camera to make reversing an easier task.

that dares cannot tahan fix Saga everyday so have to sell it. he wants a better machine to do gymkhana.

This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Nov 19 2012, 01:54 AM

most B-segment sedans cant have their seats fold flat anyway.

if your kelisa is so awesome, why bother parting with it anyway since it has adequately weighted steering feedback (by your definition), can zip here zip there, zip till holland, easy to park, easy to steer and you can put the whole of Ikea in it.

no arm rest.

aftermarket arm rest for the Preve one has yet to make a debut.

Vios good. At certain part of the states, when people look at you driving a Vios, it is like you driving a BMW.

unfortunately, no. Unless you rip off the tiger emblem and place a Honda or Toyota logo.

time to sell off the fiesta and get a Vios. Then people will look highly of you.

the Vios looks the best. The smoked headlights makes it looks so nice. Its like winnie the pooh wearing dark shades. Then the front grill, OMG, so huge and so cute. That provides me a lot of assurance and I know I will be safe if I ever need to hit the tree in case the brakes couldn't stop the Vios in time.

what mitsu lineage? copy from mitsu adalah!

the first car I've driven is the Kelisa.

sadly, i only driven it for less than 10 yards.

I was 14 at that time.

This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Nov 19 2012, 02:54 AM

you cant put the whole of Ikea in a CRZ.

sorry, typo.

I mean 10 yards.

time to sleep. lol

if you want the paper cabin filter for preve, just g to toyota spare part shop and ask for Camry 2.0/2.4V filter.

it fits.

older camry (XV40).

yes, the same thing.