well, i'm really confused now. i'm currently waiting for my spm results and is wondering about how matriculation works.

you see, i applied for the government matriculation last year... and my counsellor told us that we can go overseas after completing both matriculation and a degree in any malaysian universities but she didn't elaborate much about it.

however, when i consult my friends from other school, they told me that their counsellors said that malaysian government matriculation is only recognised in malaysia. and after the degree, our chances to be accepted in foreign universities are very slim... and that we might only be accepted in indonesia. is this accurate?

This post has been edited by WinnieH: Mar 1 2006, 05:32 PM

the chances in furthering your studies in foreign universities, i think depends on how you are doing in local universities.slim chances or not, i dont know.

Hmm...im oso waiting for SPM results thts gonna be available soon.
I dunno wats matriculation so im planing to go for foundation at UTAR.

WinnieH, borrow ur thread for a while~

Hi, i'm a SPM graduate too, just want to ask how much it cost(foundation at UTAR)? Is it 3 years and after that u get a diploma?

marticulation is like speedboat to and island compared using the normal way either using diploma or STPM ticket. matriculation is something like A-level or Pre-U level where you gain faster access to a degree in local Uni compared to STPM where you need to have a good result to enter your preferable course. You need to get certain cgpa in matriculation to entitled to enter it.

as for the recognition of matriculation, I'm not so sure bout it. Maybe feynman could elobrate more. It is better still if you insist wanted to go foreign Uni, an A-Level or which ever is required is much better because they have set a standard requirement in this exam.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Mar 1 2006, 08:37 PM

matriculation, highly unlikely that you can use it to enter a foreign university. The reason is because of the method of assessment. Unlike A-levels, STPM, Australian and canadian grade 12, matriculation isn't really moderated by a examining body, too many things related to matriculation is in the dark, things like who sets the standards? Who marks the papers? Are there any external observers to ensure that standards are maintained? Matriculation is simply not transparent, if something is not transparent, there sure are some hanky-panky things going on. However, I believe that it can be used as a proof of secondary education for American Universities. Don't take my word for it, call up the university concerned to find out whether they are aware of something called malaysian matriculation and if they do, ask them whether they accept it or not.


Our degrees are recognised, you can use them to pursue masters or doctoral studies at foreign universities.

Matriculation, A-levels, STPM are all pre-u courses.



No, UTAR foundation takes you only one year to complete. Upon completion and if the necessary grades, you will be guaranteed a place at UTAR.

oh thank you guys! that was a great help. so, if i get a degree in any a malaysian university, i DO have a chance to go to overseas then?

that's great. thanks y'all once again!

what ur counsellor said is true. if u can get in matriculation and later finish off a degree from any local U in msia, u can go for a second degree/masters/phd overseas, generally because our degree is recognized internationally (well, most of it laa).

what course r u planning to take?

if ur applying international universities using matriculation, ur chances are virtually none. even msian universities have problems accepting matriculation graduates from other msian universities. matriculation is university specific. if u took matrics in UM, u will end up in UM. any application to other msian universities are dealt in a case-by-case basis.

well i'm planning to take up pharmacy. by the way, what's the difference of matriculation in universities like UM and the matriculations in each state? you know, like kolej matrikulasi melaka, kolej matrikulasi negeri sembilan...etc.

and if i plan to do my masters overseas, will take look at my matriculation certificate as well eventhough i've got a degree from a malaysian university? i've heard many people saying that they might pick a stpm or A levels holder rather than an unknown ( maybe to them) matriculation holder.

The one I highlighted one is true!!

Matriculation doesn't guarantee you a place in local university. It's a just speedboat pass.

Speaking about recognition, how about a marticulation from Singaporean polytechnic?

Ohana Means Family

Matriculation is useless at that point, what matters most is your bachelors.

Just like admission into your first degreem while your SPM shows that you are a consistent worker, it is not referred to for offers to be made.

In what sense?

Locally or globally (Malaysia, Australia)? Admission to colleges ...

Ohana Means Family

That is subjective.
It may be possible for IPTS but not for IPTA.

You need to contact the relevant universities for clarifications. Polytechnic diplomas are usually for those intending to enter NUS or NTU.

I also have this idea too ...

Ohana Means Family

Sorry but...

Matriculation (KPM) does guarantee you a place in local university as long as you pass the minimum CGPA (2.0 only). But it does not guarantee you to get your highest choice in your UPU application if you have a so-so result.

We're talking about KPM matriculation here... not specific Pre-U matrics like UIA matrics or such.

And it is true that matriculation is only for local universities. But so far, with matriculation result you can also apply for degree courses from other local private/franchise university. But it is also possible for international universities to accept KPM matriculation result.

I know coz I've been there.

Mind to elaborate?

i applied for curtin university degree course with my matriculation result

curtin sarawak?

If i not mistaken, certain overseas universities accept malaysian matriculation result. My friend had applied for medical course at 4 universities in ireland and it requires minimum 3.8cgpa for malaysians matriculation (this include Pusat Asasi Sains UM) . It also state the minimum requirement for stpm candidates.

edited:

Matriculation in UM, u mean Pusat Asasi Sains UM a.k.a PASUM. Pasum only accept malay, and they get higher chances to enter UM compare to other people from KPM matrics. But, bear in mind that their syllabus are totally different and they take 4 main subjects compare to normal KPM matrics which take only 3 subjects.

I think when u want to do master in overseas, they wont look at your pre-u result. U already got your degree, why they want to look at your past 4 or 5 years certificate?

This post has been edited by hyperx: Mar 5 2006, 12:47 AM

imho, matriculation like second spm..... as told by me senior

still iving a bit like school,..... if u are excelence, u can apply for local uni... dunnoe bout other U... but if u so-so.. u'll be lelong....
send to unimas, sabah, or other course that's so-so...
u'll hav to strugle a lot... coz all subjects was like been compressed....
then hav to fight among each other.... coz many great student there
my counsellor said.. the diff between matricualtion in every state also like our shool... got better matric, got so-so matric....

so which is the better matriks and which is the so- so matriks??

many people say that matrik johor,melaka are the best.... the so-so i dunnoe, maybe the other matrik.....that's what people say laaa...

i suppose matrics are more or less the same between one another, due to the similar template used in the curriculum. i think what we should be discussing is what makes one place better than the other? i could come up with a few:

i. teachers
ii. environment
iii. facilities
iv. crowd
v. location from other amenities

etc...

it's good if we could point out exactly why one place is better than the other, it'll help others to make out or decide where to go.

oh that's good news to me since i apply for negeri sembilan, johor, and melaka.

kmj got better teacher... facilities are new
kmm too,
matrik kedah, my counselor said got water prob a bit...
matrik pahang/.. a bit jauh nun di hutan
actually kinda forget.. coz told by her long time ago....

lol! that's pretty funny. a bit jauh nun di hutan*.

haha....

well i heard my friend's sis say kmns's facilities are good and the kolej looks quite nice.

kindda.... i'm applying for that too....
but not looking into martik..... maybe wanna go straight to the U..
coz i'm not hard strugle person as in matrik.. we need to strugle a lot
many geniused there...

yes

but the entry requirement is the same as curtin australia

during my time... KPM matric had 4 subjects, compare to now which is only 3 subjects

i did physics, chemistry, math and computer science ..... at KML (kolej matrikulasi labuan) 2001/2002 session.

This post has been edited by soulfly: Mar 5 2006, 08:42 PM

Did you correspond directly with Curtin Perth regarding the recognition of matriculation?

Good, I'm from Melaka and the johor's one is not so far from my place.

I apply for Melaka, Johor, and N.Sembilan.

yup, but anywhere also need to work hard to get good results lol... be it matriks or stpm or A levels... so gambate! let's work hard together!

never bothered to.... wasting time

curtin sarawak and curtin perth... both are just the same because curtin sarawak is also an international campus, not just normal franchise.

you should, they did not indicate any thing about Malaysian matriculation. So it i very likely that it is not recognised.

You should not assume that what applies in Sarawak applies to Perth too, you should be aware of that. Monash Melbourne and Monash Malaysia are different.

my friend did it this way....

he was from matriculation. the 1st semester of 1st year he studied locally.... then the 2nd semester he applied for a transfer to perth....

walla.....

It doesn't mean that they accept matriculation either.

your friend went to Perth with his 1st semester credits, not with his matriculation.

If he went there straight after matricalation, then there is something to talk about.

Whatever the case, it is very unlikely to use matriculation to enter a competitive foreign university.

This post has been edited by feynman: Mar 7 2006, 04:56 PM

I dunno what you're trying to prove by arguing with my points here, but earlier I mentioned that international university might accept matriculation result.

Monash, Curtin, Swinburne.... these are international universities eventhough they are situated locally. I did not mention anything about foreign universities.

... until you drag to Curtin Perth or whatsoever.

To find your answer, I suggest that you make the enquiries yourself.

This post has been edited by soulfly: Mar 7 2006, 04:43 PM

just to be certain whether matriculation can be used to enroll one into a course in a foreign university.

The findings is that it's possible to use it so long as the institutions are within Malaysia but the same cannot be said for institutions outside Malaysia.

Erm... matriculation only has 3 subjects? What are them? (Science stream.)
I failed to google it out.

Bio, Chem and Maths?
or Chem, Phy and Maths?
Many would do Chemistry and Mathematics for science stream..
You have options to choose either physics or biology.. if you interested towards Medicine or Pharmacy, then take Bio.. else if you want to go towards IT or Engineering, take Physics

but what if i'm interested in bioengineering? do i have to take both physics and biology? (i'm asking on behalf a friend). i myself is interested in pharmacy. actually i've just sign up for my jpa katalaluan.

physics is more important.....

Can take more than 3 subjects or not?

this thread really help to reduce my confusion

i'm actually in dilemma whether to go for KPM matrix or dip in ICT

any opinion guys?

The core subj for pharm is chem and maths.Phy students are eligible for pharm.

No you can't, if you are referring to core subject.

You also will learn English and Pendidikan Islam (for Muslim; I think its rest time for non-muslim) as well. Bear in mind that you will have MUET while you spending 2 semesters in your matriculation.

I do not familiar with ICT field, but I think I Dip in ICT sound more relaxing than studying in matriculation.

what about the job after finish study??

are there any demand in that field or hard to get job?

Marticulation = low CGPA, you gonna get lelong course.

And again, I do not familiar with ICT field. But matriculation do able to provide you more dynamic range of courses - provided that you have CGPA 3.5 and above.

Just to share with you guys, my teacher's niece (Chinese) didn't get offered any doctor courses eventhough she's so interested in it. She got 4 flat for her KPM's Matriculation. So sad, right? I hear she's doing nursing now at UKM

that's unfortunate. she should check how many of her friends from the same matriculation applied for the same course. normally u can find the answer right there.

rather than take nursing, i'd rather take my chances, take a break for a year and reapply again next year. medicine is like several tiers above nursing. it's like she almost married brad pitt, but suddenly settled with the geek next door. but do pray the geek is the next bill gates, and she's golden .

For biomed engineering in UM,preference is given to students who take biology whereas in UTM only physics students are accepted.

Matriculation certs only work for a year I thought....

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Added on November 28, 2011, 3:35 pmWhat is her muet grade?? Band 2 is not allowed....Koko marks???

It is abnormal if 4 flat students do not get their desired courses....unless she is not 4 flat students....

This post has been edited by Makira: Nov 28 2011, 03:35 PM