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650MIL Hero, Which hero can i roll
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peinsama
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Nov 4 2012, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:12 PM) Cuz i have always wanted to use that armor but never found space for it on my DH. A CM can't use Tyrael? its possible actually, been thinking about it as well comparing it with Zuni Marrow and Tyrael but it turns about as a CM, attack speed from Tal Rasha Relentless Pursuit boost its effectiveness alot more since upgrading IAS is much more important. However, the temptation is too hard to resist for the AR from Tyrael and also its damage boost against elites and demon. Unless, you have other items (especially trifecta item, lol) to boost iAS then i think you can give Tyrael's Might a go.
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SUS2890
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Nov 4 2012, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 4 2012, 02:17 PM) its possible actually, been thinking about it as well comparing it with Zuni Marrow and Tyrael but it turns about as a CM, attack speed from Tal Rasha Relentless Pursuit boost its effectiveness alot more since upgrading IAS is much more important. However, the temptation is too hard to resist for the AR from Tyrael and also its damage boost against elites and demon. Unless, you have other items (especially trifecta item, lol) to boost iAS then i think you can give Tyrael's Might a go. Yeah i get u, the bonus from tyreal is just so tempting. Well, i'm drafting one in my head and hopefully early next month i get to implement it. Maybe compensate the IAS of Tal Rasha on a mempo? I know most wiz doesn't use mempo. How much is Slovak Madness with socket and base crit?
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xiaosin
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Nov 4 2012, 04:33 PM
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you want as much crit and ias for a cm build so you can perma cc the mobs which overall add dps (cold blooded) and roll a barb  i think wizard will get some major changes in the future since they already mention they dont like how wizard current works This post has been edited by xiaosin: Nov 4 2012, 04:35 PM
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peinsama
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Nov 4 2012, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:21 PM) Yeah i get u, the bonus from tyreal is just so tempting. Well, i'm drafting one in my head and hopefully early next month i get to implement it. Maybe compensate the IAS of Tal Rasha on a mempo? I know most wiz doesn't use mempo. How much is Slovak Madness with socket and base crit? The bonus is indeed tempting. Yeah, mempo seems viable (especially if you can get the one with CC  ) Not sure about the Slovak madness but i recall there was once i saw a 2 socketed Slovak. Imagine if put 2 RAdiant star emerald. Epic damage. I'm currently developing a living lightning CM build and try to perfect that build. So far so good. Gonna increase my CC instead of iAS.
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SUS2890
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Nov 4 2012, 07:35 PM
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I think a intel rolled mempo with CC should be cheap compared to the dex rolled ones. In the EU server, a dex rolled with CC is gonna be billions. So hopefully 200mil can net a intel rolled one. wishful thinking =)
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peinsama
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Nov 4 2012, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 07:35 PM) I think a intel rolled mempo with CC should be cheap compared to the dex rolled ones. In the EU server, a dex rolled with CC is gonna be billions. So hopefully 200mil can net a intel rolled one. wishful thinking =) Should be. I will check later for you once i finish with my presentation slide for my boss.
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SUS2890
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Nov 4 2012, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 4 2012, 08:09 PM) Should be. I will check later for you once i finish with my presentation slide for my boss. Alright. Thanks bro.
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peinsama
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Nov 4 2012, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 08:10 PM) Lol, i'm abit itchy cos im in a state of trance mode right now I've double check. On average most of them are priced at the level 120 mil-300 mil. The higher the CC, the crazier the price. Mempos are socketed as well.
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rockroll5022
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Nov 4 2012, 08:27 PM
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Barbarian#1 most op class in d3.. With that gold, u can roll a min 130k dps and yes I am pretty good when it comes to barbarian class.. And yes u can use tyrael's might on barb (female class because it looks so stupid in male barb).. As the matter of fact, I am in transition changing my chest armor to tyrael's.. All in all, if u want to get all the end game gears and still dies few times in a run, roll a wiz.. If not, roll the super OP barb that jay Wilson loves so much..
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chchan_89
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Nov 4 2012, 08:37 PM
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the dps u guys mention if before buff?(without wotb and battle rage)
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rockroll5022
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Nov 4 2012, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Nov 4 2012, 08:37 PM) the dps u guys mention if before buff?(without wotb and battle rage) Unbuffed dps of course.. Without battle rage and wotb..
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Sabenarian
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Nov 4 2012, 08:40 PM
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yeah...curious also... i see good bracer with high AR and 5-6 cc with stats (Str and vit) can go billions..not talking about other armors and 2 good weapons.
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chchan_89
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Nov 4 2012, 08:43 PM
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actually whats d main stat that buffs the most dmg?
ias or cdmg or ccrit? assume all at max roll.
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peinsama
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Nov 4 2012, 08:47 PM
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definitely CD.
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SUS2890
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Nov 4 2012, 08:48 PM
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Funny thing, CC gives me the most damage followed by IAS. i'm talking 1 percent CC compared to 1 percent CD. haha. TROLLing
This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 4 2012, 08:48 PM
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chchan_89
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Nov 4 2012, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 4 2012, 08:47 PM) thx, means now i will filter cd priority.. what about crit and ias?which will gives more dmg? and also, if i have low crit, will cdmg still give the most dmg output?
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SUS2890
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Nov 4 2012, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Nov 4 2012, 09:35 PM) thx, means now i will filter cd priority.. what about crit and ias?which will gives more dmg? and also, if i have low crit, will cdmg still give the most dmg output? I dunno how it works on barbs but i was talking to a WW barb the other day. He told me IAS is the most important. Something about being able to crit. Well, don't take my word for it. Do some research and find out. Added on November 4, 2012, 11:46 pmQUOTE(rockroll5022 @ Nov 4 2012, 08:39 PM) Unbuffed dps of course.. Without battle rage and wotb.. I think u told me battle.net balance could be brought forward right when u make a region switch. Well guess what. not possible. So goodbye region switch unless i get to do a 3rd party transfer. This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 4 2012, 11:46 PM
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peinsama
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Nov 4 2012, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Nov 4 2012, 09:35 PM) thx, means now i will filter cd priority.. what about crit and ias?which will gives more dmg? and also, if i have low crit, will cdmg still give the most dmg output? Really depends on your build and skills. For example, Wicked Wind CM wizard prefers iAS more than CC (given CD is substantial). My build though which is Living Legendary Lightning CM wizard emphasize more on CC compare to iAS cos the way living lightning does its damage is slightly quicker than Wicked Wind, not to mention its quite efficient aiming more enemies nearby compare to living lightning. Always remember CD is dependable on CC. IF your CC is low, i find it pointless to have high CD, because the focus is to crit often.
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paranoid
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Nov 5 2012, 10:37 AM
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barb is first choice if one were to roll anew. with the same amount of gold, you can hv a very strong barb, and DH/Wizards are normal only.
if you have a >100k dps DH/Wiz it's normal if you have >100k dps barb, it's godly enough to own at high MP ubers. a lot of ranged class friends which rolls high dps but they die very often too. not to mention barb gears are cheaper compared to wizard gears/dh gears (last i know, not rly sure how far the market has changed now)
most ppl run ubers, they need barbs, monks for the buffs and shouts. ranged class doesnt really offer much in coop other than dps itself. (disclaimer: although there are realllly good dpsers out there i dont stereotype hehe...)
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HaRuaN.X
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Nov 6 2012, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Nov 4 2012, 08:37 PM) the dps u guys mention if before buff?(without wotb and battle rage) this one also i'm always confuse, some say unbuff is the damage on your char screen before buffing anything, some say its the damage without everything including passive... unbuff..to me i think it would be the one on DiabloProgress web page, since that one removes everything rite? just ur pure damage without buff & passive....or am i wrong ?
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