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post Nov 2 2012, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Nov 2 2012, 05:43 PM)
where is the TT?
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EA-murni-albarkath-MERZ TT

Location : EA Autoworks, then Al-barkath or Murni
Date : 3rd November 2012
Time : 12 noon onwards

Attendees:
1. V12kompressor
2. r3apers
3. nickzkuso
4. Iskazulka
5. dares
6. kenjilew
7. GPmadman
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Maxwell6635
post Nov 2 2012, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 2 2012, 06:45 AM)
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How big you want your brake to be? How strong your master brake pump is? ^^

The above picture is a Mits VR4 disc brake, minimum rim size 15". Couple with an AISIN master brake pump taken from Honda Accord SV4. No doubt its very pretty with that huge disc brake. But I'd say there will be a lot more trouble in the future after upgrading disc brakes.

1) Bearing senang rosak, sebab rim size besar
2) Absorber senang rosak, sebab knuckle + disc rotor + caliper sudah tambah berat
3) Getah lower arm senang rosak, sebab kedua² atas.

How effective such super power brake system can benefit a less than 1 ton vehicle? I'd say minimal for street use(even for highway). Do you think you can brake from 160km/h to 0km/h in very short time with such huge disc brake? Sorry it doesn't solely depend on the disc brake itself. The weight distribution of the whole car takes into account. Is your rear chassis setup higher than your front? Engine positioned before front wheel or after?

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And if you're thinking of adding disc brake to your rear wheel to improve your braking power, that doesn't affect much too? The more powerful brake is drum brake. A cheaper solution will be tighten your drum brakes slightly.
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lol...sure this brake system very expensive...haha....i will never convert my rear drum to brake disc....not affordable...becos 70% brake come from front 30% only from rear............^^if i got money i will go for it......^^thank for you info...


Added on November 2, 2012, 6:08 pm
QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 2 2012, 08:09 AM)
Hi & Good Morning, Everyone!!  notworthy.gif
Re Bro Maxwell's brake master cylinder change, IINM the whole system there was changed ie including the Vacuum Servo/Booster Unit.
If that's done, IINM there shld be easier braking with significant increased pressure on all 4 brakes.  tongue.gif

Me rber that was quite a common mod 4ole gen Sagas/Iswaras 2improve braking power. Many swap Ori ones for Perdana ones....eg Dbl-layer Servos.... whistling.gif
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oh really.....erm how much for that?...^^...if cna i go make for it...i only know saga brake system not good...even a waja can brake easily....although is 4 brake disc...^^

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post Nov 2 2012, 06:23 PM

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For air-cond service matter:

Under 2 scenario:
1) Olskol aircon setup with R12 gas, without cabin filter, compressor without torque cut out. You NEED to do aircon service under routine bassis.

2) Neuskol aircon setup with R134 gas, with cabin filter, compressor got torque cut out function, you only NEED to do some regular DIY maintenance or send in aircon guy/SC to let them cut throat.

Things to take care:
1) Olskol aircon came with R12 gas, low pressure, high cooling effect, bad thing is because it cool so fast and the gasket/insuflex suffer from drastic changed in temperature. It will develope symptoms like gas leak, dirty condensor(residue of koyak gasket). Regular service is inevitable, because those days cooling coil was blown directly by the blower. U know I know blower suck recycle air from the passenger glovebox compartment. Without paper filter, human slime/saliva kena suck in & lekat at the cooling coil, later dust kena stick by the saliva. After 2-3 years of none stop accumulation, your coolig coil can't even squeeze an ant. At that time, u go service aicond, the mech use chemical to clean, if your coil still thick can stand la. Otherwise like Z1 cakap will bocor then your money gone.

Some preventive action may reduce chance of money fly away is to make sure your passenger side floor mat is clean! This will reduce dust being suck in by the blower. If you use coil mat, buy an extra RUBBER MAT put on top, RM8/pc only. Make sure u soak the rubber mat with soap water 1st before use, otherwise those chemical smell can make u high. Refrain from using clip on liquid freshener(increase of slime). Ask your passenger talk gently, don't spill saliva. Vacum your cooling coil & wind channel once in a blue moon. Your olskol aircond system can easily lat u 5 years+ before any major issue occur.

2) Neuskol aircon is easier to take care. R134 gas need higher pressure, but slower cooling effect compare to olskol. However, car manufacturer use high speed blower to overcome this problem. Basically the whole aircon system was designed to withstand outside high heat, cabin cold environment. We GaGa citizens consider blessed bcoz new technology applied. By adding a piece of paper filter can draw extra moisture/human slime(saliva)/body odor from recycling. When cooling coil dry means dust very hard to stick. If you don't have a paper filter, buy 1 and install it. Change your cabin filter if wind doesn't get through. Other than that, normal maintenance like cleaning wind channel will do.

Some common stuff
I personally don't do air-cond service until something wrong. Just take note on these few things and u save your wallet being punctured a big hole.

1) If aircon suddenly not cold, please switch off aircond immediately. It could be cooling coil too dirty, dirt stuck at cooling fin become ice, wind couldn't get through. If keep on powering up aircon, refigerant also become ice, ended up extreme pressure may blow -» cooling coil/hose/compressor. Service cooling coil.

2) When sometimes cold sometimes not cold, could be thermostat jammed. When this happened, your compressor could overworked and keep charging refigerant into the cooling coil. As a result, condensor overheat may cause radiator boil oso.

3) When traffic jam time, aircon not cold. Could be your radiator fan. Bear in mind GaGa only got 1 fan. Get the fan thoroughly inspect, or you may melt your engine.

4) Continue number 3, radiator coolant too low, sensor didn't get trigger to spin the fan. Check radiator/water pump whether function properly.

5) When aircon kick in can hear fry clam sound from compressor... You have a leak hose previously. Refigerant came with lubricants, when u leak gas you tend to lose lubricant. The wear off piston/valves/fin in the compressor normally developed after refigerant leak. Nothing much u can do to rectify. Add a can of additive to the compressor to try your luck see how long can it last. Don't bother to service your aicond system at this time, unless you already planned to change the compressor.

In short, whenever you discover aircond no longer cold, it means lost of refigerant/valve sumbat. Turn off your aircond and send for service immediately. I'm not talking about no wind come out, if no wind check blower. I service repair my aircon in Taman Kinrara YKS behind AmBank. Not the cheapest in town, but price is reasonable & very honest tauke. Whenever thing can be use back, he will try to retain. Very detail thorough work, lots of explaination when asked. 5 thumbs up, 2 hands, 2 legs and... Nevermind la thumbup.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 06:37 PM

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Thanks bro for clarification... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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2) Neuskol aircon is easier to take care. R134 gas need higher pressure, but slower cooling effect compare to olskol. However, car manufacturer use high speed blower to overcome this problem. Basically the whole aircon system was designed to withstand outside high heat, cabin cold environment. We GaGa citizens consider blessed bcoz new technology applied. By adding a piece of paper filter can draw extra moisture/human slime(saliva)/body odor from recycling. When cooling coil dry means dust very hard to stick. If you don't have a paper filter, buy 1 and install it. Change your cabin filter if wind doesn't get through. Other than that, normal maintenance like cleaning wind channel will do.



Bold item is the filter that u all do bulk last time? hmm.gif rclxub.gif sad.gif

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GP mad man
post Nov 2 2012, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Nov 2 2012, 05:23 PM)

dont wan bruce.gif
i tiong ppl only as per iska statement and i duno how to go oso whistling.gif

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post Nov 2 2012, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(smokey @ Nov 2 2012, 11:39 AM)
hi guys..

my BLM manual gear shifter's spring has snapped...now the gear stick moves freely when at Neutral position...where can i get it fixed without going to Proton SC? How much to get it fixed? Dont want to get chopped...

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hohoho ! ur the 2nd one that kena here... lols... i did it at serdang price around RM25-35... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(AmeiN @ Nov 2 2012, 11:41 AM)
Spring broken already mybe???  hmm.gif

Go to SC free only.. tongue.gif
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Free ur head ! wear and tear item la ! -.-

QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 2 2012, 12:12 PM)
btw tmr who going EA??

user posted imageuser posted image
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i`m going ~

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 2 2012, 12:49 PM)
Bulk sudah finish.  cry.gif I try tomorrow at EA TT lo.
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aiyo... ask bro david see got extra mou la...
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post Nov 2 2012, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 2 2012, 06:23 PM)
For air-cond service matter:

Under 2 scenario:
1) Olskol aircon setup with R12 gas, without cabin filter, compressor without torque cut out. You NEED to do aircon service under routine bassis.

2) Neuskol aircon setup with R134 gas, with cabin filter, compressor got torque cut out function, you only NEED to do some regular DIY maintenance or send in aircon guy/SC to let them cut throat.

Things to take care:
1) Olskol aircon came with R12 gas, low pressure, high cooling effect, bad thing is because it cool so fast and the gasket/insuflex suffer from drastic changed in temperature. It will develope symptoms like gas leak, dirty condensor(residue of koyak gasket). Regular service is inevitable, because those days cooling coil was blown directly by the blower. U know I know blower suck recycle air from the passenger glovebox compartment. Without paper filter, human slime/saliva kena suck in & lekat at the cooling coil, later dust kena stick by the saliva. After 2-3 years of none stop accumulation, your coolig coil can't even squeeze an ant. At that time, u go service aicond, the mech use chemical to clean, if your coil still thick can stand la. Otherwise like Z1 cakap will bocor then your money gone.

Some preventive action may reduce chance of money fly away is to make sure your passenger side floor mat is clean! This will reduce dust being suck in by the blower. If you use coil mat, buy an extra RUBBER MAT put on top, RM8/pc only. Make sure u soak the rubber mat with soap water 1st before use, otherwise those chemical smell can make u high. Refrain from using clip on liquid freshener(increase of slime). Ask your passenger talk gently, don't spill saliva. Vacum your cooling coil & wind channel once in a blue moon. Your olskol aircond system can easily lat u 5 years+ before any major issue occur.

2) Neuskol aircon is easier to take care. R134 gas need higher pressure, but slower cooling effect compare to olskol. However, car manufacturer use high speed blower to overcome this problem. Basically the whole aircon system was designed to withstand outside high heat, cabin cold environment. We GaGa citizens consider blessed bcoz new technology applied. By adding a piece of paper filter can draw extra moisture/human slime(saliva)/body odor from recycling. When cooling coil dry means dust very hard to stick. If you don't have a paper filter, buy 1 and install it. Change your cabin filter if wind doesn't get through. Other than that, normal maintenance like cleaning wind channel will do.

Some common stuff
I personally don't do air-cond service until something wrong. Just take note on these few things and u save your wallet being punctured a big hole.

1) If aircon suddenly not cold, please switch off aircond immediately. It could be cooling coil too dirty, dirt stuck at cooling fin become ice, wind couldn't get through. If keep on powering up aircon, refigerant also become ice, ended up extreme pressure may blow -» cooling coil/hose/compressor. Service cooling coil.

2) When sometimes cold sometimes not cold, could be thermostat jammed. When this happened, your compressor could overworked and keep charging refigerant into the cooling coil. As a result, condensor overheat may cause radiator boil oso.

3) When traffic jam time, aircon not cold. Could be your radiator fan. Bear in mind GaGa only got 1 fan. Get the fan thoroughly inspect, or you may melt your engine.

4) Continue number 3, radiator coolant too low, sensor didn't get trigger to spin the fan. Check radiator/water pump whether function properly.

5) When aircon kick in can hear fry clam sound from compressor... You have a leak hose previously. Refigerant came with lubricants, when u leak gas you tend to lose lubricant. The wear off piston/valves/fin in the compressor normally developed after refigerant leak. Nothing much u can do to rectify. Add a can of additive to the compressor to try your luck see how long can it last. Don't bother to service your aicond system at this time, unless you already planned to change the compressor.

In short, whenever you discover aircond no longer cold, it means lost of refigerant/valve sumbat. Turn off your aircond and send for service immediately. I'm not talking about no wind come out, if no wind check blower. I service repair my aircon in Taman Kinrara YKS behind AmBank. Not the cheapest in town, but price is reasonable & very honest tauke. Whenever thing can be use back, he will try to retain. Very detail thorough work, lots of explaination when asked. 5 thumbs up, 2 hands, 2 legs and... Nevermind la thumbup.gif
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thanks bro^^..for ur info....just want ask open the air con will make the car more heavy?


Added on November 2, 2012, 7:07 pm
QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Nov 2 2012, 04:01 PM)
hi

just coming back from SC doing 5k service. total damage RM139.75  icon_rolleyes.gif

this SC located in puchong. somewhere at DHL area. SC name Yes Car Service Centre Sdn. Bhd.
so before i go there's, had made a call to this SC 2 days ago. Answered by a man. I ask i want to go service need appointment or just walk in. with polite sound, he say can be both. so no need appointment then i'll just walk in

arrive there, greet by one chinese supervisor. he looks really quiet person but always smile one. i say to him want to servise 5k. then open service chelist form, tell me what to change. i also complaint about malfunction door knob operate remotely & shaking power window. he confirmed to attend to it while servicing. about door knob, ive post here last time it didnt working at 1st place and then magically it works back again. still, supervisor will check for me
last time use shell helix hx7 10w40. now pour in petronas symthium 800 10w30. oil filter change too and put new oil nut gasket. also put in windscreen washer fluid, as it finish ady. then attending my problem. it seems door knob actuator working. so no replacement needed. on shaking power window, he put some silicon spray inside window rubber frame. it works like a charm

all works faster faster done. mechanic move like speed of sound and very cermat one. one funny thing, all workers do their job without open their mouth  blink.gif
really quiet. only those machine sound heard. without realize, my servcing done in 1/2 hour

then go pay at counter. luckily, amoi there cun  brows.gif . while waiting her print receipt, i see see look look at their glass display cupboard. there's a lot of achivement certificate from proton liao. best perfomer 3 year in sequence, best account management, best debt management, best service... wahhhh. no wonder got certificate. their staff works very efficient

on the way back, try my wiper and power window. wiper no more shaking, power window also no shaking
on that wiper, i just clean it up with clean cloth an wipe out some debris bottom part of windscreen, where wiper blade rested there

for this SC, i rekomended. 4 out of 5 star  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
why not full star? their worker no mounth liaooo.  ohmy.gif  doh.gif
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what the ...so nice service...my SC...is the worst i had ever see......never done this before...and somemore test my car like racing car...==did they charge u the government tax 6%?....

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 2 2012, 07:03 PM)
thanks bro^^..for ur info....just want ask open the air con will make the car more heavy?
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Yes it does. It can support up to 2.0litre engine, therefore its slightly heavier. According to vacuum reading, almost 30% of the engine output went powered the aircon compressor sweat.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 08:14 PM

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GUYS! got my 1.3 flx. elegant brown is nice! biggrin.gif

just need a tip. where to get auto lock?? really dun like pulling and pushing the lock. is there a way to fix auto unlock when engine stops?
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QUOTE(jacktay94 @ Nov 2 2012, 08:14 PM)
GUYS! got my 1.3 flx. elegant brown is nice! biggrin.gif

just need a tip. where to get auto lock?? really dun like pulling and pushing the lock. is there a way to fix auto unlock when engine stops?
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congrats!
u can get it from the forumers or most accessories shops I believe.


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30L, still waiting for light to bling bling...

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post Nov 2 2012, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(jacktay94 @ Nov 2 2012, 08:14 PM)
GUYS! got my 1.3 flx. elegant brown is nice! biggrin.gif

just need a tip. where to get auto lock?? really dun like pulling and pushing the lock. is there a way to fix auto unlock when engine stops?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 2 2012, 04:34 PM)
wah, wind blow where, then so fast face that side...
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So ... you were talking about the nut? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 08:38 PM

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somene is nut obsessed... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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Nut is really irresistable. Most who tried a nutted GaGa surely kena poison geh sleep.gif

V12kontena shld really konsider open shop sell nut liao icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Nov 2 2012, 05:23 PM)
petronas 800 not 10w40 meh? hmm.gif
and got free wash and wax thingy a?
got leh nod.gif
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mana ada free wash/wax shakehead.gif
windshield wash liquid. put in window washer tank liao. its like sabun basuh pinggan
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post Nov 2 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 2 2012, 09:00 PM)
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post Nov 2 2012, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Nov 2 2012, 09:31 PM)
wanna hire assistant on that ? tongue.gif
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reply pm!! tongue.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 2 2012, 07:03 PM)
what the ...so nice service...my SC...is the worst i had ever see......never done this before...and somemore test my car like racing car...==did they charge u the government tax 6%?....
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let me recheck back my bill

syntium 800 10w30 1 litre = rm32
syntium 800 10w30 3 litre = rm86
oil filter = rm12.22
plug oil drain gasket = rm3.32
screenwash 300ml = 5.71

total damage = rm139.25

nope. no gov tax 6%





by the way, forgot to tell. mecha that operate my gaga TAKE OUT MY POLLEN FILTER to clean it
sure he perasan my cabin filter. but he looks didnt care about it, leave cabin filter unharmed
he just clean it then put back blush.gif


as i've gone 2 different SC, so far they treat me good. well done to them. list of good SC so far. If you have good SC that service u well, please do put int he list as i wrote below. To locate the exact below SC, you can find it in http://proton-edar.com.my/Visit-Us/Service-Centres.aspx
TS, just ask opinion. put list of best SC on front page. Ok or not?

- Bercham Motors Sdn. Bhd - Bercham, Ipoh (located somewhere at the back of Giant Bercham)
- Yes Car Service Centre Sdn Bhd, Taman Perindustrian Puchong, Puchong (located at big DHL warehouse, next to Bandar Putri Puchong)

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