Then y that guy wanna lower standard? If what he said is right uk would hv followed ma.

Anyway llb um can enter llm Cambridge , means standard not so bad right...
But that was gen y era...

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Oct 21 2012, 04:56 PM

Especially in conveyancing.

Yet Malaysians keep expecting the best for cheap and in also in good packaging ("Peng Leng Zheng").

So Lawyers keep cutting each other's throats by undercutting to survive and take in loads of cases to live on.

When shit hits the fan, all Malaysian lawyers are craplah, thislah, thatlah.....

That's why I always tell people in college don't ever choose law. Life's tough....

But once you jalan that road, no choice lor...

The older generation always say the younger one not so good.

Even if this guy is right and the quality of the graduates are low, this guy doesn't seem to be doing anything to improve the situation. He complains that the universities do not include skill learning, but their own CLP exam is just 100% exam based. They assume the ability to answer questions on a paper equates to representing a client in a court room. If he feels that local graduates are of low quality, modify the CLP first and then suggest that local grads take the CLP as well.

As for the salary issue, I do not know which world this guy is living in. When he started out as a young lawyer, he might have worked hard. But his salary was enough to survive in that economic climate. RM 2000 in KL in today's economic reality? That is chicken feed. You can't expect employees to work their ass off and also better themselves when you do not offer them any incentive to do so. Sounds like a classic case of employers not wanting to offer employee proportional increase in salary to the inflation rate.

He complains about low quality grads, but he still hired them didn't he? Why not increase their salary but make them attend workshops or offer them better guidance on how to improve their skills?

Makes sense.

problem is probably this monkey had RM2k starting pay during his time, and now he think it's justified even in such economic climate.

nope. It was never second class upper to begin with. Thats just absurd. with just 2:2 u can be called to the bar alrdy.

The same can be applied to Gen-X. Its simply a case of people forgetting how they started off.

Low quality keee pimpinan atas BAR yang taknak turun turun?

Young lawyers are like our sp3rm, the old ones worked in the 60's 70's 80's and the new batches can come deformed, two headed or blanks

This post has been edited by Love6: Oct 23 2012, 03:07 PM

from an employee's point of view, fresh grads do not deserve high pays unless they are talented and have the advantage over the other candidates. don't expect us to pay you a huge sum while you slack of your work.

This post has been edited by stix: Oct 23 2012, 03:12 PM

It seems our citizens oso low class, can't tell the difference between lawyers, the judiciary and legislation. Worst of all, still want to tok a lot.

BAR...what happen to our abolisment of CLP?

talk coke sing song..ptui not effective also

you seems to be quite oblivious on how lawyers, judiciary and the legislation of our country runs.

This thread can be quite a LAWL too

You dont need lawyer. You just need bright future. Wink wink.

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i'm learning a lot here.. please don't stop.

tot rahmatlim pays better than wong & partners nowadays?

it depends one la. best starting pay as chambee i saw is RM 3.1k