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post Oct 21 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(coldogno7 @ Oct 21 2012, 03:13 PM)
so they sux because they are young
what about old graduate ppl

btw they all started as young lawyer too,they could be sux when they young
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but they stayed on and worked on it until they became good. not like the new young lawyers, crappy but want higher pay or else they leave
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:21 PM

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Considered extra time and money had spent on investing to study a llb with CLP..indeed lawyer in malaysia is the worst paid job...
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ Oct 21 2012, 03:18 PM)
but they stayed on and worked on it until they became good. not like the new young lawyers, crappy but want higher pay or else they leave
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Problem with the industry is that lawyers are charging too low. Competing by way of predatory pricing. That's why lawyers cut on quality.

Keep the profession expensive. It's meant to be that way.
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(figuremeout @ Oct 21 2012, 03:00 PM)
a junior partner, u can earn 10k.
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how many years you need to work your ass off to get the title of partner. there's equity partner also wei

QUOTE(zeroonetwo @ Oct 21 2012, 03:14 PM)
Steven Thiru being politically correct. What he meant to say is that the primary factor resulting in the problem of shit young lawyers = local grads. That is to say, there are shit foreign grads too, but that's like blaming one person's cigarette smoke for causing global warming. Local grads are the cow-fart equivalent. 

You see la UITM la, UKM la, even the so called Le Magisteria UM, macam taik kucing the grads I tell you.

Don't blame the senior lawyers. Blame the system for allowing shit students to study law in the first place.
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not everyone is Gopal Sri Ram ma. hahahha. still say blame students. really monyet.
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:26 PM

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So sed. And I wanted to take law as my 2nd Bachelors sad.gif
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:26 PM

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post Oct 21 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Balaclava @ Oct 21 2012, 03:22 PM)
how many years you need to work your ass off to get the title of partner. there's equity partner also wei
not everyone is Gopal Sri Ram ma. hahahha. still say blame students. really monyet.
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You're not talking about complex analysis of the law dei. The senior lawyers are complaining about the basics: English, critical thinking, analysis.

Local grads, ini Semua mostly kosong.

I don't expect your English to be Raja Azlan Shah's standard, but I mean kamon la, speling and grammar can correctness or not?
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Oct 21 2012, 03:26 PM)
So sed. And I wanted to take law as my 2nd Bachelors sad.gif
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No reason to lick your ass, but for what it's worth, I think you have what it takes. smile.gif
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(zeroonetwo @ Oct 21 2012, 03:27 PM)
You're not talking about complex analysis of the law dei. The senior lawyers are complaining about the basics: English, critical thinking, analysis.

Local grads, ini Semua mostly kosong.

I don't expect your English to be Raja Azlan Shah's standard, but I mean kamon la, speling and grammar can correctness or not?
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Memang alot got these kind of problems. even from overseas i know a few. barely can talk properly in english whistling.gif


QUOTE(wastematime @ Oct 21 2012, 03:27 PM)
A lot of good foreign grad students fail the clp, sounds like another protectionism law whistling.gif
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only people who fail complain about the quota. i know cause i sat for it. this year passing rate was around 24% for first-timers and 14% for resitters. the problem is not much people GET it. i know i quite weak in application, that's why i started early, thank god i didn't flunk it. lol
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:33 PM

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Serious question (not being snarky). The field is saturated, the pay is low, the workload is heavy - why do people want to be lawyers?
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(zeroonetwo @ Oct 21 2012, 03:29 PM)
No reason to lick your ass, but for what it's worth, I think you have what it takes. smile.gif
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I don't want to practice. That's for sure.

My sister and mother are both lawyers and I figure that's enough. Just want to broaden my horizon and maybe move into engineering consulting.
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QUOTE(juchoo @ Oct 21 2012, 03:33 PM)
Serious question (not being snarky). The field is saturated, the pay is low, the workload is heavy - why do people want to be lawyers?
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i'm being quite frank with you. if i get into an interview and they ask me why should they hire me. i wouldn't be hesitant to say: cause i got what it takes and i beat 80% of the other candidates to be here.


the entry into legal frat is so damn restrictive. it might be just behind if not on par with actuarist.

btw 012, which firm you recommend i chamber in? brows.gif
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(juchoo @ Oct 21 2012, 03:33 PM)
Serious question (not being snarky). The field is saturated, the pay is low, the workload is heavy - why do people want to be lawyers?
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The lure of glamour. Which would quickly be erased upon seeing a typical Malaysian lawyer's cubicle (lol u think u so nice straight get room? Pls la)
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Balaclava @ Oct 21 2012, 03:36 PM)
i'm being quite frank with you. if i get into an interview and they ask me why should they hire me. i wouldn't be hesitant to say: cause i got what it takes and i beat 80% of the other candidates to be here.
the entry into legal frat is so damn restrictive. it might be just behind if not on par with actuarist.

btw 012, which firm you recommend i chamber in? brows.gif
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What you wanna do? Crim? Corp convy?
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lecturer say conveyance are for women worrr. im looking at M&A(yes i know its f***ing dry), or IP loh.
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(Balaclava @ Oct 21 2012, 03:41 PM)
lecturer say conveyance are for women worrr. im looking at M&A(yes i know its f***ing dry), or IP loh.
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PM me. Come join my firm.
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QUOTE(zeroonetwo @ Oct 21 2012, 03:42 PM)
PM me. Come join my firm.
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where one? brows.gif
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oh noesss. we have a bad ass lawyer here.

hide ur a$$ everyone
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Balaclava @ Oct 21 2012, 03:47 PM)
where one? brows.gif
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