aiya no need fight la, just go test both car your own and choose the one suitable to you.. without test drive your own even thousands feedback here also no use because sometime ppl think ok but you can't accept it..

Alright. Fair comment. But i dont think its fair to make general assumptions that since the previous models were crap hence the current ones will be crap too. Nobody knows at this stage if the current models will be durable in the long run or otherwise. Even i dont. They could prove to be more durable than even Toyota or worse than Proton. Lets just wait and see.

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Added on October 19, 2012, 11:42 amI dont feel uneasy bout anybody bashing anything. But bash based on facts. Durability for the current models are unknown so its pointless to generalise that since previous models were problematic hence current models would be the same. As ive said many times, every car has its drawbacks and the K5 isn't without its own.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 19 2012, 11:43 AM

Sir... what is this question imply? Car manufacturer shouldn't keep improve the stability if we don't drive fast?
should stop there?

if NO.. then what is ur question about?

Sir.. U mean any car with bigger Rim will be stable? what do u mean by taking corner there? in what degree, what speed etc?


thank u sir...

I vote K5 lah, come lah join me to book the car when the new engine arrived
dont worry on reliability since the car was engineered for 10 years warranty
but sound system on focus impress me lah. radio look just so so but the sound wau!

Maybe u should read your own statement before asking. I was refering to the K5 rims and based on my own experience. Or didnt i make it clear enough? I asked the question for more clarification from the person who posted it. Wait for his reply instead of asking counter questions.

taking along the same line

previous protons are crap, so the newer ones are crap too..

fair ka?

mayb the other way round
last time T been very good now T is good also?

Maybe you should ask those who made such comments. I actually think the Preve was a good step up for Proton.

I voted the Ford. But it is up to you, test both cars and decide your own.

Both car doesnt come with cheap price. Make sure u got all satisfaction before pulling the trigger.

I am also facing the same problem... but m more towards the k5, cause:

1) The design is great, no doubt about that...
2) I am 185cm, when I sit in the focus, i need to push the driver's seat almost all the way back, then left with a space only enough for kid..
3) The optima has been lauched for quite a long time now in US, so far, no bad comments, or and recalls.. for tat u can always check youtube and surf around the net and look for it...
4) Ok, may be this is a bit too much, but the glove box is kinda too small in focus, and I dont like the centre arm rest cabinet, cause if u see carefully, it is held closed by plastics, I mean, both hook and lock are made of plastic... (feels a bit cheap)
5) The push button start for focus, is not really a nice 'push button start' system, wat i mean is, you need to press and hold on to the button till the engine stays on, whereas most other push button start system, you just need to press and release..
6) Although focus comes with push button start, but you can notice they didnt redesign the dash properly, cause it wont take long for u to notice that there is actually a hole (looks like originally for the key ignition) which is covered by a plastic cap.
7) There is no doubt the driving experience is better for focus, you can really feel it, just the steering and suspension, ford has done very well here...
8) The DRL on focus is quite dim, or may be the angle is directed towards the floor, cause I can hardly make out the DRL in focus, even in the night...
9) The parking assist is awesome, although I hav only tried it in a wide parking space, since I couldnt find a space thats narrow enough... but the focus parks the car nicely in the spot... but also, I hav asked the SA regarding the parking assist, he honestly told me most drivers used the parking assist is only 20% of the time, cause it wont be able to detect parking space thats too narrow (esp in m'sia) and which comes to my main point, the front and rear parking sensors do come in handy
10) this is my personal preference, I dont like the handbrake design in focus, it feels like the break is pulled out of the central console next to the gear shift, worst design ever ( for me)

Those above few points, are the few things I observed when I test drove both cars, these are my views..

Gud luck

The only reason u would buy the K5 over the Ford is because you need the space, everything else the focus is just better ( FC, handling, NVH, servicing wise i am not so sure, my ford is doing just fine ) and of course u can afford the extra 15k over the Ford.

I confirmed with Ford in the FoFo FB page that it is only meant as a side lamp, not a DRL. Similar system to the Preve.

My mom have 3 cars in mind to change her current Civic now.

Focus Titanium+, K5 and Passat Sport

Focus, test drove 2 times. The SA doesnt seem to know much about the car, the SC looks horrible. The interior space is so cramped. The interior colour gets dirty easily. The steering leather feels rough. No resale value

K5 - mom say its too big, high fuel consumption. And she watched the video on YouTube on some guys rattle issues with his K5. Also no resale value..

Passat Sport - went to showroom at Jalan Ampang, no SA even bothered to attend to us..

Aspects which the K5 has an advantage over the Focus:

1) Being a D segment, the K5 offers much more interior & boot space
2) Exterior design (subjective)
3) The K5 has a higher NHTSA safety rating compared to the Focus (4 stars)
4) Unlimited mileage warranty

Not very major factors but still factors nevertheless.

In the city, I think the ford focus will be more fuel efficient than the K5

All 3 cars wont have good resale value. So why bother comparing a limiting factor that all 3 cars share?

How do u know the K5 has high fuel consumption? Did you check it out yourself? Ive managed to travel 780km on 80L of fuel with 80% highway at 160-170kmph. The remaining 20% in stop start KL traffic. This is considered quite good considering that the K5 is actually underpowered for its body weight.

Are you trying to look for the perfect car then? Sadly, u aint gonna find it. You have access to the internet. Do some research on the various problems which have plagued ALL car manufacturers in the world. The Focus itself has faced 2 recalls in the America this year alone. But does that make it a bad car? Surely not. What about the millions of Toyotas which were recalled a number of times in the past few years. So is Toyota crap too? In 2010, Ferrari issued a wordwide recall of its brand new 458 Italia after a number of these cars caught fire at various locations around the world. How does this compare with some Youtube video about a rattling issue? So are you gonna say Ferrari's are crap too?

If these are your criteria's in choosing a car, then your mum's best bet would be the public transport.

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Added on October 22, 2012, 10:33 pmSurely. Much lighter car.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 22 2012, 10:33 PM

Were looking for something that wont give us problems. Once in a while can lah, but not the cars that needs to send to SC 2 times a month.. (got a pug that have build quality issues already at home, rattling and squeaking),

And we rarely travel outside of KL. so yeah, fc is gonna be bad. Mom's current civic gets around 9.7l/100km in city drive..

This post has been edited by Boy96: Oct 22 2012, 11:52 PM

Well, FC depends alot on your driving style. Some ppl think they are driving economically but in actual fact they arent. You can still rake up high fuel bills on a car thats supposedly 'high consumption'. When driving cars that arent economical, you need to adjust your driving style to suit. No high revs from standstill, faster upshifts while cruising, avoid hard braking & acceleration, etc. If you can emply all these methods, you will find that a supposedly 'uneconomical' car can actually be quite economical in the long run.

But even if fuel costs are higher, how much higher are we talking about here? You say your mum gets 9.7L/100km currently with her Civic. If her new car only gets her 10.5L/100km for instance, ure talking about 39km less mileage for a full tank of 50L or 3.8L (RM 7.22) of extra fuel to reach the same range as your mum's Civic. Assuming she fills 2 full tanks a month, ure talking about RM 173 more in fuel costs to cover the same distance.

Yes I agree on all your points above, the main selling point is the SPACE it offers. For sure u will be more comfortable in a more spacious car, exterior design the K5 really looks good, but the focus is not ugly either . The unlimited mileage warranty is another important point to consider as well but now that the latest focus has 200k km warranty i think that's more than enough for 5 years of driving

i had just went test drive both the car
for ford focus i love the handling stability especially in cornering but space too small for me

for k5 space is good but handing not as good as focus

currently i'm driving nissan sentra b14 which i felt the space is just fairly enough