QUOTE(masao343 @ Oct 16 2012, 03:55 PM)

Hope this is clear enough.
Example :

HU or Speaker First
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Oct 16 2012, 04:18 PM
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Oct 16 2012, 04:32 PM
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Oct 16 2012, 04:52 PM
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Jumping in to add some comment.....
Would suggest to wait for a while and change HU & Speaker together and work to getting something that compliment your budget (save up more). Change together maybe can save some installation cost and get better compatibility. Currently if ichy hand/butt can do sound-deaden for the car as insulate external noise will enhance current stock system slightly and as first step before jumping into next step. Also help on ride NVH levels. |
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Oct 16 2012, 09:51 PM
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i say you change speakers first...
HUs... well it depends... sometimes if its a b**** to change, i wont change it... adding a processor works a lot more wonders than just changing a HU... |
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Oct 16 2012, 10:12 PM
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I say component speakers 1st.
For some ppl thats the end of their ICE journey. Still not enuf then go buy ODR, eh sorry, I mean a better HU. |
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Oct 17 2012, 01:23 AM
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Oct 17 2012, 02:24 AM
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since it's 50/50, i believe a spk will be more beneficial to user since the sound stage are immediately being pulled up on the dash..or even on the right position after changing speaker, while changing hu will only make the detail better but still singer lying on the foot area and sing for you....unless u were playing some "other" type of music in the car then maybe sound from down there will be making more "sense"......
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Oct 17 2012, 10:46 AM
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can i ask... if i upgrade speakers first (and i hope it ends there) but not satisfied, instead of changing HU, will adding an amplifier helps? coz someone mentioned the risk of the standard HU not powerful enough to drive the new speakers.
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Oct 17 2012, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Oct 17 2012, 02:24 AM) since it's 50/50, i believe a spk will be more beneficial to user since the sound stage are immediately being pulled up on the dash..or even on the right position after changing speaker, while changing hu will only make the detail better but still singer lying on the foot area and sing for you....unless u were playing some "other" type of music in the car then maybe sound from down there will be making more "sense"...... Why everything this fler said sound...."dirty"?QUOTE(masao343 @ Oct 17 2012, 10:46 AM) can i ask... if i upgrade speakers first (and i hope it ends there) but not satisfied, instead of changing HU, will adding an amplifier helps? coz someone mentioned the risk of the standard HU not powerful enough to drive the new speakers. Of course it will help. But it is more like changing different item to achieve different objective. You change something to achieve 1 objective, not changing something to achieve nothing. |
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Oct 17 2012, 12:44 PM
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usually change speaker first u will get more difference in sound than changing HU first, however some ppl need to change HU first due to feature constraint, like no usb input, or no aux input, etc etc
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Oct 17 2012, 01:28 PM
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Yeah.. I agree wtih zennn, change speakers first
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Oct 17 2012, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(masao343 @ Oct 17 2012, 10:46 AM) can i ask... if i upgrade speakers first (and i hope it ends there) but not satisfied, instead of changing HU, will adding an amplifier helps? coz someone mentioned the risk of the standard HU not powerful enough to drive the new speakers. tat's called ICE poison. i already kena. haha. i bought a light-pwred 50W RMS compt speakers, seriously hoping no need to pasang amp. but sadly found out d HU (also bought brand new for d features) cant drive them properly on mid-low volume. sounded a bit flat, esp d tweeters.then add an ecomonic budget amp (i'm poor) from Howie, then found d compt speakers came so much more alive. haha. happy icing and get poisoned! recommendation? of cos go to Howie.... he got lots of 'drugs' to sell from low to mid to high end depending on ur budget n d amount of poison u already kena. his installation charges of cos not the cheapest in town (wad to do, doktor pakar mah) but u can be assured of excellent workmanship n materials used. |
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Oct 17 2012, 05:53 PM
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this is what i'm afraid of!
but i'm a person of simple requirements. i just need something that sounds nicer. coz the one in the FLX seems to sounds insufficient, even compared to my other national cars. weird as i thought they should be similar |
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Oct 17 2012, 05:56 PM
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My opinion...
b4 decide which. .need to know what kind of speaker r u getting.are u using amp or output of the player? if no amp chg hu first because scared ur hu output cannot push ur speaker if u get those branded speaker. or better chg hu & speaker one shot This post has been edited by vickyz: Oct 17 2012, 05:59 PM |
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Oct 17 2012, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(masao343 @ Oct 17 2012, 05:53 PM) this is what i'm afraid of! tat's ICE journey. I'm a beginner too! btw, i'm driving BLM. like u, i dont hv high requirements and on limited budget. but once started, hard to stop le... hehe.but i'm a person of simple requirements. i just need something that sounds nicer. coz the one in the FLX seems to sounds insufficient, even compared to my other national cars. weird as i thought they should be similar do soundproof 1st, then save $$ for comp spkrs. then u'll feel d spkrs cant play well in certain range cos not enuf pwr. then u will consider pasang amp. but to add amp u'll need aftermarket HU cos stock HU dun hv RCA pre-out. then aft tat u'll start to think about sub to get more bass. haha. tat's y very hard to stop one.... |
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Oct 17 2012, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(masao343 @ Oct 17 2012, 05:53 PM) this is what i'm afraid of! Ya ya, on that. You need to have a budget first, then go to shops and start listening to different speakers.but i'm a person of simple requirements. i just need something that sounds nicer. coz the one in the FLX seems to sounds insufficient, even compared to my other national cars. weird as i thought they should be similar Take your time and bring your fav CD along, no CD cetak rompak ya. If MP3, then just use shop owner's CD will do. |
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Oct 18 2012, 12:28 AM
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To TS, I think I can share some experience.
Not driving a FLX but Preve. Not happy with stock speakers, went for a combination of 2ways component speakers + amp. Crossover din install though as recommended by the installer where my amp is good enough to handle all the 4 channels. Rear speaker? Disconnect the wire. So far, I'm pretty satisfied with it. The sound not really till dashboard yet but not far from it. At least not on the floor anymore. If u into music listening, dun use the FM modulator..... Happy hunting. |
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Oct 18 2012, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Oct 18 2012, 12:28 AM) To TS, I think I can share some experience. Understand what you mean coz by using Radio frequency thing the level drop but what to do , can't keep buying cd / burning CD. So that is why i need to ask advise from all the sifu here. Coz money is the main source of the issue here. Of coz if is possible i would like to do one time of thing but don't have money. So have to stick to the ground and think which i can see the difference straight without killing my wallet to much. Not driving a FLX but Preve. Not happy with stock speakers, went for a combination of 2ways component speakers + amp. Crossover din install though as recommended by the installer where my amp is good enough to handle all the 4 channels. Rear speaker? Disconnect the wire. So far, I'm pretty satisfied with it. The sound not really till dashboard yet but not far from it. At least not on the floor anymore. If u into music listening, dun use the FM modulator..... Happy hunting. |
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Oct 18 2012, 12:48 PM
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a player with USB input, is much better than using FM modulator.
Even if it just 320kbps MP3. I would say change HU first. This post has been edited by allenultra: Oct 19 2012, 07:46 AM |
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Nov 18 2012, 07:38 AM
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In my opinion u shud change d speakers first. Reason is now a days most of cars coming with usb input so d source will b same (mp3) whether u play on stock hu or aftermarket, d quality will not differ much unless u go for audiophile HU means u buy new HU but u will feel not much difference in quality
U shud change speakers cz stock spk r made of paper cones n usually come without tweeters. At louder volumes sound will start to distort n in few months cone will rupture. Aftermarket spk will sound much much better especially components with stock HU using usb or CD. This post has been edited by mughal90: Nov 18 2012, 07:40 AM |
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