for a bias poll, the note 2 is doing quite well actually. the s-pen is great for short notes.but sometimes is better just to use your fingers when taking short notes. to take long notes, than the tab 2 10.1 is the choice. but the huge screen is very attractive coz i am a multimedia junkie.

for the iphone 5, its a phone. if u looking for a phone feature above multimedia features, than its a no brainer.

This is an interesting video 50 reasons s3 > iphone 5

http://www.phonebuff.com/2012/10/50-reason...xy-s3-iphone-5/

It's for s3, but the S3 feature is a subset of the note 2 so everything can apply.
For me I love reason 47 best. Btw, my I was searching for 50 reasons iphone 5 > s3 but i can't find any atm. I am not bias.

contrary to popular belief, many don't jailbreak their phones. they are the silent majority. even for android, many don't root or flash their phones. geeks are a very small percentage of users in this world. they are the noisy minority.

i think u mean no. 5. led lights don't exist in iphone. even if screen is black you can figure out what message u have pending to be read. for example, white - whatsapp, green - viber, yellow - sms, etc. flash light only got one color

2. no. 30. offline reading iphone also got. so i dono what the presenter is talking about. but desktop mode and "porn" mode is unique to android. don't u hate it when u watch porn and forget, then your kids just go to your history and view your porn! embarassment of the century!!!

3. yes u are right. iphone does it better. double tap on samsung is crap.

4. reason 47 is the killer app for android. perdictive typing, swype to type, creating themes, and sizing your keyboard are great examples. keyboard is a very personal thing. i don't mind if u can't customize your icons, but keyboards, they are very very personal coz it translates to being productive on your phone.

This post has been edited by ramz: Oct 17 2012, 03:27 PM

i have both the ipad and s3. i think the ipad "flowness" is the same with iphone 5. once upon a time android device really cannot compare with iphone as far as "flowness". that was 2010. then come 2011, much better, but still a bit off. come 2012, with android ICS on s3, its 95% of iphone's "flowness". but with jelly bean it is now 99% good. i reserve 1% coz there are certain apps that launches slower by a fraction, although the "flowness" is still very good. android has become very competitive since 2010, and i see microsoft wm8 to be the next serious contender.

ultimately i want a mobile pc on my hands. and i see android and wm8 giving me this requirement. apple is still very stubborn on making their devices like a PC. i am a pc user since the 90's, so of course i am bias to a mobile device that behaves like a pc.

what u mean? got black bars too? too pixelated?

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Added on October 22, 2012, 11:57 ami don't think ip5 and note 2 is targetting different market. if u look at the "venn diagram", there are the "wanna ip5" group, "wanna note 2" group, and the overlap of these 2 is the "both are good for me" group. this thread is dedicated for the latter group. as for the poll, is just to see the sentiements of people's preferences. but i agree this poll is done at the wrong place. ts is either intellectually challenged, or just not geniune about his query. i am sure is the latter.

This post has been edited by ramz: Oct 22 2012, 11:57 AM

i'm still waiting for 50 reasons iphone 5 is better than s3/note2. its been 2 weeks since the first youtube video, and still belum ada reply lagi. some people say the apps factor brings so much weight that it is more than enough of a reason. that's good for some i guess. and for some, they don't really care about apps other than the mainstream ones (i.e. viber, skype, whatsapp, facebook, evernote and the likes)

can u be specific which mainstream app is not so great compared to iphone. with examples please. i don't see any difference.

i hope u don't mind me being honest.

nfc - very useful. not as a payment method, but for automation. example enter car, touch dock - gps on, car mode on, waze on, all in just one touch. exit car - touch dock - gps off, car mode off, waze off. no fiddling when entering and exiting car. 30 seconds saved for every drive. everyday i drive. so its hell of a help. this is just one example. i malas mau panjang lebar.

haptic feedback - i have no use u are right (for me at least)

removable battery - no much use, although i see it quite useful during emergency. but i guess i'm spitting hairs.

live wall paper - i'm a pratical guy. so no use. but just like how people prefer their phones got high quality casing and all, its the same concept. people just like something nice to see and fiddle.

widget - very important. i see news headlines without even unlocking my phone. i see youtube "what's new" without even pressing any button. i see my to do list without even pressing any icon.

I think u mean samsung less resale value. Not no resale value. The resale value topic has many angles to it.
1. If you are like Mr xo then iphone is a better proposition
2. If u buy phone and never sell. Coz you just give the old phone to your family members while u indulge in a later model, then android.
3.value for money angle. for example s3 was 2.2k now 1.7k.for a person buying a phone now he saves 500 k. That is he also don't want to re sell. android is a better proposition.
4. If u not chasing for latest and greatest, then android coz u get it cheaper the longer u wait.

That is why iphone has this icon image coz the price don't depreciate much over time

1. you
2. can give also.
3 . android drop faster
4. Android drop faster.

I'm stating which has a better proposition base on the price factor. Let's not muddle it up with other factors.

I respect your opinion so no comments on that. But I like to comment that people just use their phone to do basic communication stuff. That trend is changing very rapidly. Even for me 2 years ago. I just use my phone like a phone. Now I use my phone like a computer. Remember the things u do on your computer? Like watch video, and download bittorent, skype, file management (keeping a small collection of work and personal files), document editing (this I admit a bit hard but I find myself doing touch ups a lot on the phone), reading, watching youtube and porn, banking. And answering long emails such as this one. That is is why people tend to like their display big nowadays. Even iphone acknowledge that

may i add things like hardcore gaming, programming and design related stuff (like autocad) and such is not yet there on the phone. but i don't see why it couldn't be. your phone may always have a small display but the cpu need not be low end. although not happening yet, i don't see why we can't play battlefield 4 on the phone. in fact lets not call it a phone anymore. let's call it "my portable cpu"

This post has been edited by ramz: Oct 25 2012, 10:21 AM

ello, s3 user here. youtube is hd, my videos are hd, my cameras are hd, my dolphin browser and chrome is hd, my games are hd too ( i don't play lot of games, but the ones i play are ALL hd. subway surfers look just as dashing on my s3 compared to my 2xHD ipad 3). in fact most graphic apps are hd.

Yes I understand where u coming from. yesterday I was purchasing airasia tickets online. I keep going back and forth between evernote (where I keep my passport information) and the browser. How I wish I can have these two apps side by side so that I don't have to keep switching back and forth. Or at least an alt-tab equivalent. That I admit is a useful feature. Less so if your screen is small. Perfect for note.

Interesting app. still not sure how it helps to fill in forms without me going back and forth between apps. For example airasia online requires me to fill in things like passport numbers, expiry date for every member of my family. I have 3 members so i find myself switching between evernote and browser 6 times to complete the purchase. If last pass can help me there that would be great . But atm I don't see how lastpass can help by eliminating the need to switch apps back and forth. I have no forms to fill at the moment so I can't demonstrate. Will try it when I have forms to fill. But my first impression is it is too complicating and requires lengthy setup to make it work. And it's not free on mobile phones.

I been doing banking on phones since 2010. I have lost millions of ringgit because of security issues but I'm still so stubborn coz what is a million ringgit compared to convenience I get in return.

Somebody can give 1st party story on security issue that happen to himself? Cerita 3rd party tak boleh diterima coz not credible. Just curious.

I would categorize u as no party. 1st party is u experiencing the security issue yourself. Telling from your own experience. Not hearing it from somebody else.

Just say u don't have first hand experience la. I know I can Google but i want to hear someone with personal experience. Is nice to hear somebody say things like 'u know yesterday what happened to me.....bla bla bla' rather than 'today I'm going to do a review of security on android'. That's all. Afterall where better place can i get personal other than the forum.

from my experience with android, u will mess up things if u take the initiative to just do that. my father have been an android user for years but he doesn't mess up things coz he doesn't know how. ignorance is a good thing.

i agree on your opinion to a certain extend. now i talk from personal experience. but i will state i am nitpicking here. for example my old phone galaxy s. when i first bought it my skype takes 15 seconds to load. but u know how updates are. every now and then the skype app get updated, and over the course of 1 year it got updated nearly 20 times. updating is good coz it puts more functions in there, but the hardware doesn't follow the same upgrade. so now 2 years later my skype takes 50 seconds to load. now, i am saying i am nitpicking coz its not constant throughout all apps. only some apps. also another reason, is u tend to overload the ram as time goes by. in the beggining i have nothing. then came whatsapp, then viber, then line, then yahoo, then...scramble with friends, then.....whatever else. everytime u install these apps it takes a chunk of your ram. u don't realise that coz endusers don't monitor ram like how geeks do. so after so many installations, your ram is so stuffed up u have no more room for your current apps to run smoothly. like my father for example. i load him whatsapp and viber and that's it. no other rubbish. he doesn't even know how to go to the play store to install other apps. and up to today his phone doesn't lag!

so back to the security issue. ignorance is the best security prevention mechanism.

Well for the ipad I hope apple thinks of making it multiuser. I hate it when my kids mess up my setup. Am I the only one sharing my ipad?