really? lol the 3hours of invigilating wud b much better used to do other things man..ur not thinking right bro..dont do it man..lol..but yah, i tink the best part is when u see ppl taking out their calculators n start counting stuffs even tho the paper isnt related to numbers..thats when u noe, they are finished, counting their marks to see if they chance to pass..

IMO,
chant is the best set for ww/cm..if u want to meteor, use chant too..vry expansiv tho..cheaper gear is a good roll slorak-oculus, but u cnt get 2.74 aps with this..main thing is to bump aps up to 2.73(2.74 to b safe) its the best breakpoint for ww..then with 500-900 loh, 800ar unbuff, 50chc, 2 apoc sources, ur good to go with SA at mp7-10..mp7 is the sweetest spot for me at 130k dps..mp10 i nid to swap in meteor for tele for quick kill but without tele i die +/-10 times per run..but its alot less when a barb is around..the thing is, SA with 2.74aps is a killer..gives 8-10x paper dps..cnt beat sick barbs at 13x paper dps..but ww/cm wiz excel at groups of mobs..mor mobs mor cm procing, mor loh,mor apoc and mor skill spamming..prepare anti-finger sprain medicine..haha or jz use macros which till now im still not sure its legal..

triumvirate has highest dps boost bcos of the near 20% element boost when coupled with black weap..this is preferable for archon, ww/cm using this may b at around 2.5aps, still can do mp10, but not as effective as a 2.74aps wiz..yah biatch can b a good archon player, if he swap chant set in, he could b real good with ww/cm.

hope it helps new apprentice

This post has been edited by Davy123: Dec 28 2012, 11:19 AM

Yo, 3 weeks i tink..i can play awhile once awhile these days..so, i ask my younger bro to play my archon in my place but he says no ..instead he plays new barb bcos looks lik Thorin Oakenshield..facepalm

No prob, i love helping ppl..
Ya hobbit its superb beyond words..im a big fan..but its a boys movie, girls get bored keep yawning
Lik twilight..i freaking slp halfway of the movie..and girls cant watch or play games bro chit chat..majority of them lol they will yawn yawn n slp..
A house party is preferable if ur home alone

btw, jz check the chant sets..freaking cheap..doenst make sense..source was near 300m min bid post-1.05/1.06, now its 40-50m a good an average 200dps source..with -ap meteor its 100m..damn dissapointed

This post has been edited by Davy123: Dec 28 2012, 11:50 AM

Yo gym, ya i miss fighting side by side with u guys..gona b inactive sometime..

Eh chant is cool la..the item pic may look lik a flower wand, but in game its a wand with a fireball at its tip..

@Gogonet
SA=shocking aspect

@varador
nowadays many variations in ww/cm..lol do what u like..the main thing is tht u aim for 2.74aps, 50chc, 20apoc, 500+ loh and 4k armor & 700AR buffed, then u can easily sweep cut thru mp5-7

actuly it depends on how u define freeze..som ppl are pretty satisfied with 2.4aps..some need 3.01 aps to b satisfied..for me, 2.74 is the sweet spot tht allows a wiz to near-perma lock 2 ubers..they dun really move about..i need a video to justify tht, will try to do it..

meanwhile with 2.4aps the 2 ubers can move and still do stuffs..2.74aps will make ur party members alot satisfied having a wiz..in farming, a 2.74aps wiz can near-perma lock 3elites..sometimes, they dun even attack at all..for 2.4aps, i tink u nid 5-6mobs around to near perma lock..so, u see both can still near perma lock..so it depends on how u see it..cheers man..

ps:dont pump all into ww/cm yet, this build is still considered 'd3 mechanics exploit'..it isnt fair to freeze mobs to death without getting hit by them once the entire fight..sry, im a bit pessimist bout d3 by the way gay wilson treat wiz..it will be safe it wilson dint nerf us after the pvp is out..archon on the other hand is a safe bet =) keep ww/cm as a secondary build..

Hah thx, bt i still wana do som recordings..jz for the fun while in ubers again..hmm i nid to do it at a cc..my laptop sucks..frap causes too much lag..mayb when im free..

What do u guys think about archon full a3 farming (including NON-alkaizer route) ?

I use evocation and LL to squeeze archon timer as much as possible throughout the run. Jz did 1 mp3 run, cnt sustain archon as good as the alkaizer route but it isnt that bad..not to the point of total unplayable..usually when my archon runs out, i jz need 1-2 large group of mobs ~10 and archon is back up again..but using LL on RD pb is suicide..i need to kite on pb while not in purple monster mode..mayb bcos i hav low AR =(
But the point is ppl said full farm yields better leg drop..i personally think so..Jz need to pandai pandai accumulate lots of archon kills b4 going on the non-alkaizer route..i need to test test somor..hopefully got archons out thr help me test or criticize this idea..

lets try to make archon mor farm-friendly as well as party-friendly..

Oh no, i think u are doing it wrongly..archon needs chc while in archon downtime..at 140k dps i tink u can hit mp0-1 by sustaining archon pretty well.. but if u accidentally died, u need a lot of time to cm up archon..it also means ur archon now is very good in solo, but not in party..unless u plan to solo all the way, then its ok =) aww man, shuda wait for olman or metalfreak (very friendly and helpful ppl in wiz LYN comunity) to help u out..

Your next upgrade, if u want to maintain solo mp0-1, jz go mor dps..if u want to make it up higher mp, u need to farm a lot mor gold to get chc gears..high mp archon/ able to party in ubers is never cheap..cm is a lot cheaper..

Yo ryei, 280k dps buffed here wit Pint Barrier and scoundrel..last check can do mp5 two ppl party..any higher or mor ppl in party kills my archon timer..in solo, mp3 is my sweet spot..able to kill pb with RD(but not all the time)..mp4 or higher i cnt sustain archon effectively and i die many times..need 400AR on eq to excel at mp4 above according to battlenet info..and i tink 190k dps can do mp2 easily..but 1 point to note is tht there is a difference in alkaizer run and full run..full runs yield better legs..in AKzer run, mp0-3 i dont see any diff also..

Ur eq is good for now..upgrading any of it would req ~10m at least..i tink if u die a lot jz change scramble for pin barrie or prismatic..scramble din really help me fsaten the run also..yup i did keep let mobs hit me to run fast bt when i compare prismatic run and scramble run..its only 1-3mins difference..not lik 10mins diff @@..passive blur helps to deal with RD ur in the right track now..stay at mp0-1 for mor survivability..mp2 dun really giv better loots nor exp than mp0-1 Hope it helps =)

Haha moba seems very happy wit his new wiz..i lik ur lacuni bra and the nat boot n ring you sure know what ur doing..u'll b a good cm..real good eq u got thr..fcking rich man
And for the thing with chant will..got an useful info here mayb u hav heard of mayb not..the overall aps in the paper dps is directly related to the main weap..lets say chant(1.65aspd) and ur bonus apsd frm eq is (70%)..

So 1.65 * 1.70 = 2.805 shown as 2.81

If ur using ef(1.4aspd) and bonus aspd frm eq is (70%)..

So 1.40 * 1.70 = 2.38

Thats the difference..

This looks interesting..archon with deep freeze to hasten up archon cm..http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004698743

Yah sick stats i know..achieving that requires 1b at least..full tank plus high dps 400k+ requires 2b-4b..but prices are dropping..hehe, i did some calculations and 1b can achieve 400k dps buffed with decent AR..play cm wiz bro, cheaper..i saw ur wiz and its quite cool, we shall try the uber gg.com wiz union need some time here to prepare up first

@morningstar-gotta be real proud to have imba malaysians in hardcore..congratz if he can hear..i dont even dare play thr..

This post has been edited by Davy123: Jan 8 2013, 03:52 PM

fingering skills~ ahem ahem
yah i'll b active next week on, 4cm?

Lol, i think we can see perma freeze again with 4cm..no need much AR if the ubers stand still frozen to their deaths.. but lets mp8 to be safe before hitting higher mp..

Will try to do it on the weekends if u guys are up to =) but then again, i dont think my laptop can stand 4cm lol..even 2monks in party gives me the lag
But we can try..

Lets go during the weekends..sat/sun..i'll go purple monster..2-3 freezers then..mp10 kah? dont think my dps is enough..lol lets try mp8 first?

Don't give much hope to be happy yet..blizzard is one of those ppl to tell u good news before bad news the nex day ..anyway, those little buffs for wiz isn't gonna work in farming I believe, mayb on pvp..but with thT increase aspd gem, most likely they nerf ww again..or else ppl may break 4.0 aps buffed and it's gonna break the game..that's my two sens

I'll play archon then..freezers will need to research for new breakpoints n stuffs..mor mitigation n mor dps here n thr to balance up the 1.06 freezers..too much pain in the pocket..hahah..I'll play archon..hopefully they make it party friendly..lai lai über/ farm time..after lunch

I think we misinterpret what the blog means by the change in ruby gems..it further increases average dmg, not aspd..Damn, my english sucks for failing to grasp this meaning at first read up. Got the meaning after seeing the battlenet.

"We also took the opportunity to modify the Ruby effect in weapons. At the moment, the Critical Hit damage bonus provided by the Emerald is a clear choice for anybody looking to do more damage with their weapon. The new tier Ruby is a significant bump up that should make it the preferred choice for those who favor attack speed over Critical Hit chance, or for those who use skills which do not benefit as much from Critical Hit such as Sentry and Hydra."

Hes trying to say tht those who loves atk spd but with love crit chance might want to use ruby gem(increase avrg dmg) more than a crit gem (bcos with low crit chance, u aint going to crit all the time). Its a good idea to push up players with low crit chance to be on par with players with high crit chance. Thus, there is a possibility that ww/cm wiz might survive this patch

Anyway, a good tanking cm ring for sale here, pm me if interested :


This post has been edited by Davy123: Jan 13 2013, 10:32 AM