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 Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists

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Davy123
post Dec 12 2012, 04:56 PM

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question :
do u think taskar & theo is good gloves for melee wiz?
specs smth like :
40-50 str,dex,vit and int
+250armor( total near 600armor)
70AR
7-9aspd
8chc
1 o/s
Davy123
post Dec 12 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Dec 12 2012, 05:00 PM)
melee..using spectre? but how is the crit proc like?

I saw some of those gloves...expensive!
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The idea of using Takar Theo and Strongarm bra are always on my mind..i have been debating yes or no, but cnt seem to find good cm wiz in battlenet tht uses those..both are cheap upgrades into achieving good mitigation and dps..but it can never b an end-game material.

Strongarm bra is cheap..lol but it has knockbacks which spoils our locking ability. But nevertheless, high int, high armor, life%,nice chc.

T&T is mor expansive. 60-80m a good one. Gives less dps, but a hell lot of mitigation. AN end-game glove shud b trifecta int brows.gif

Macam mana?

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post Dec 12 2012, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 12 2012, 05:00 PM)
Thanks for the idea of using T&T with AR, sometimes the elemental damage can be a little too nasty for my monk to handle.
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Bro, take off ur shield lar..dps ftw! lol.
MoC + implosion plus a cm wiz to lock=mp 10 joke hahaz.
Mayb a barb to ensure minimum deaths
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post Dec 12 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Dec 12 2012, 05:10 PM)
meh although 2 levels way, u know how much EXP required? ROFL. plus now bored of wizard unless helping my friends in ubers

So far did ubers with Davy and  yuhhaur tongue.gif my attack speed belum reach 2.75. Can't stun lock them. am at 2.65 now
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Dec 12 2012, 05:13 PM)
I found strongarm for all classes but the knockback is not welcome for my CM style LOL

Anyway, I think the proc rate for spectre is not high enough ? unless not CM style
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No, spectral blade cnt beat wicked wind and yes proc rate isnt good.
Lol we never did ubers together if im not mistaken..only mp7 farm with yurhaur..
oppa mabuk style? rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 14 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(CloudDave @ Dec 14 2012, 11:05 AM)
Hey guys I just got my Attack Speed up to 2.81 and I must say as a CM/WW build with Meteor that it is GOOD. I can even do MP10 Ubers without dying now which I think is a new benchmark for me. Hehehe. Anyway I need to know what my next step is. Can anyone just take a quick look at all my gear and skills and recommend me what I can still improve without blowing my wallet? Thanks!
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Enough aspd bro, the breaking point of aps 2.73 and 3.01 isnt much different..settle for 2.73aps and u can have mor offense n defense options.

Im pretty sure u can tank well with prismatic/PBarier now..so i guess the nex step is to pump as much AR so u can switch prismatic to shocking aspect..with SA, u can literally see ARMAGEDDONZZ hahaz..im thinking 4k armor at least, 800AR with impunity u shud b able to survive mp10.

Gloves go for Tasker & Theo if want cheap ass upgrade. (50AR,250armor,7-9aspd,7-8chc,o/s)
BT with AR
Zuni iwht AR
Lacuni go for 50AR,200armor,4chc, (u can neglect the int)
chant force with 200-250 average dmg and 3-5ap reduction on metoer
*i think they are ranked in more expansive order.

Also, dont do meteor shower, use liquefy for better proc rates or molten for burst dmg
switch Mag Weap(-10%dps) for Chain rxtion.
switch Blur passive to cold blooded(+20%dps).

Also, dont be bothered by the paper dps. It isnt important, if ur able to spam liquefy/Impact while in Shock aspect, its alrdy very high dps output.

GJ on breaking 2.73 icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 14 2012, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 14 2012, 02:44 PM)
my friend on the EU doesn't use SA but PA. I think good enough la. Meteor is the trick. That's what i think la.

We combo last night to deadly effect. Elites were melted.
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Haha, good to have a believer..not all can believe wiz can dish out good dps apart frm being glass tanks in game.
A good dh dpser does the melting job effectively too =)
Do u play US server? come join us brows.gif
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post Dec 14 2012, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(GoGo.Net @ Dec 14 2012, 06:29 PM)
Meteor swap with EB ?? Please advice... below are my current build

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/GoGoNet-6129/hero/6913320
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u can do meteor if u change to diamond skin-prism rune..or, get a chant source with 8+Apoc and 4-5ap on meteor..

nvr take out chain rxt bcos 3 times boom boom boom in 2s is good proc rate..meteor take over sparkflint =) go for liquefy if ur AP pool keeps on empty..

and u nid 2.73aps to be mor tankish and cast meteor easily

thts my 2 sens =)
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post Dec 18 2012, 11:58 AM

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Pro archons out thr,

heard ppl saying:
mp5=400k dps archon to sustain and play with 1hand on the mouse only.
how much gold to build a 400k dips archon? shocking.gif
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post Dec 18 2012, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Dec 18 2012, 06:06 PM)
by da billionz  brows.gif

da no pro speaking  brows.gif
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Im estimating 1-2billions too..but i hope to get a mor detailed answer..lik which item is a must (i spotted quad-fecta tal rasha) and how much..

i'll go battlenet check up in detail when im free and update u guys..jz now look at them 400-600k dps archon also saliva come out.. drool.gif


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post Dec 18 2012, 10:03 PM

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Ya true.. ww/cm SNS meteor is still cheapest way to achieve high dps while being glass tanking..but smtimes i jz wanna sit back n play with 1 hand u noe? facerolling thru mobs..thats archon mang..archon..

and archon is 4x paper dps
sns is 8x paper dps
so logically, archon shud b double the price of sns wiz XD
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post Dec 18 2012, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(xiaosin @ Dec 18 2012, 10:03 PM)
items still worth so much ah?? d3 so boring lately gay wilson say wanna release pvp notes but never out
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Prepare high dps gears bro, for pvp..either archon or hydra up..anticipating pvp yah brows.gif
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post Dec 19 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Dec 19 2012, 02:40 PM)
i'm wondering how u guys farm enough gold for those crazy wep... usually how much u guys farm per session? fo rme 1 session (1 run in act 3, battelf field, bridge + azmodan himself) will be around 300k.... how do u guys farm up to few million so fast? being super patient?

I left out my archon style recently, back to blizzard + shock pulse... a bit boring after long hours of playing.... (never tried ww b4)
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Get to 170-190k dps, 4% LS at least and around 700-800ar archon buffed, hav 10-14pickup radius and u can finish the alkaizer run in 20mins for mp1..u will rarely die even with playing 1hand and golds are good..for me i do

1. tower of damn (charge up archon)
2. core
3. lv3 keeps (only if dint get 5nv)
4. lv2 keeps
5. rakkis (run down to fields)
6. slaughter (one circle of the map)
7. areat lv1
8. areat lv2

hope it helps


Added on December 19, 2012, 4:03 pmand to the high mp farming archon wanabes our there..

2b-4b to get to 400k+ dps archon the ang mo said..wtf..

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post Dec 24 2012, 06:19 PM

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Try to search the GAH by equivalent stats, some poor archon players might want cheap 1k dps black weapon w/o LS for the dps boost..i have a few archon friends tht dun use LS main weapon..can sell i believe..

Merry christmas and Happy new year my wiz bros rclxms.gif

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post Dec 27 2012, 12:22 PM

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Grats oilman, wats next? brows.gif

Btw archons out thr,
Do u tink it's wise to swap GW for CB? Then equip scoundrel with 1.5asp bow with cold dmg.
I'm assuming u run passives GC,GWard and CM
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post Dec 27 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Dec 27 2012, 01:39 PM)
hhhm no idea...will it make a difference i mean..everything still dies almost immediately

I used to swap GW with blur tho biggrin.gif

I'm only churning out 200Kdps(after buff) and I only play MP1 with that.

sad.gif no LS on wand
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I'm hitting mp3 archon smile.gif 25mins alkaizer/doodle run wit pinpoint..cos my fren says mp3 yield better drops thn mp0-2..So the xtra 20% on elite is good, trash mobs excluded. So, take out GW- which sustain archon better for mor dps? Or remain GW which is a lot of regen and keeps archon up easy

And oilman, 500m can build 300k+ dps archon with good survivability..I check up gears a few days ago..want? Want? brows.gif

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post Dec 27 2012, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 27 2012, 04:48 PM)
Don't worry, having PL100 does not mean that you are strong. It only prove that you can run endless of times sweeping the mobs in low mp levels.

Moba you are still my (our) LYN MP10 god notworthy.gif

All hail Moba, all hail Moba!
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Apa khabar bro, whrs my souvenir frm vietnam? haha

If u put it that way,
Then starts the debate 1 run of mp10 or 5-10runs of mp0-5 gets better quality & quantity of rares n legends..yes that means endless times of sweeping the mobs..
seriously mp10 is nothing mor than confirmed keys and men's ego, period..mayb also for the fun of challenge when ur other 3 friends r around..but it is not efficient..majority of ppl alrdy vote mp5-7 as the best efficient farm area..but if its to show whos stronger..lol..yah mayb moba can be 1 of them.. nod.gif
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post Dec 27 2012, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Dec 27 2012, 06:08 PM)
fight the shadows, make sure ur party members are guding geared.

thell them die, then u can fight 4 shadows on ur own LOL  brows.gif
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Lol at first i tot tht was a lyric line..

Yo moba, yah u hav a point..to check ur gears if they are near high-end by doing well in mp10..bt im pretty sure u noe AI mobs and human players are diff..not to mention we dont noe wats the skill change in pvp..dps, mitigations, play styles..once its out, might take awhile to get used to the new skills..pve and pvp will b completely diff world..and who knows, mayb the most unpopular wd can b king of pvp..hahaz..

gona bump my ques up this page..
CB or GW for higher mp archon farming? the other 2 passives are cm & gc..
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post Dec 27 2012, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Dec 27 2012, 07:35 PM)
Hhhhm I haven't tried MP3 with Archon and pinpoint.

but I m back to playing CM style, MP5. Better drop chance lolz. Rotating between all characters and leveling my Witch Doctor.
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Hey witch doctor~ give us the magic word~

i wan to make my archon mp5 viable..but its so hard..
lol somtimes i envy u working guys..keep play nia..meh exam here so near christmas n new yr making me stress lik a fcktard..
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post Dec 27 2012, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 27 2012, 08:07 PM)
i'm a student too XD
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Hah hi5, nice nice..met a few LYN d3 students here too..they r all mp10 viable..hope they all students can handle papers the way they handle mp10..including us.. rclxms.gif

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post Dec 27 2012, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 27 2012, 08:38 PM)
u said u have exams right? which uni? i might be invigilating your exams you know.. hehe
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Lol, so ur trying to say ur a master's student invigilating me undergrads? so many univ having exams right now..dun tink we r in the same one..cut things short, im in penang lol..and if ur my invigilator, haha close one eye when i look around wei

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