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Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists
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peinsama
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Nov 8 2012, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(AdamNg @ Nov 8 2012, 10:16 AM) I sacrifice my vitality...buy cheap2 item with high INT & CC (this one really help) in AH with the price less than 50k. Spend less than 200K. Now dps up from 45k to 75k. Now I can beat ACT 3 easily... yup, i did that as well. All you need to do is to be extra cautious sometimes. A reduction in Vit has a price at some point. At least, it helps your farming activity. This post has been edited by peinsama: Nov 8 2012, 10:23 AM
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AdamNg
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Nov 8 2012, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 8 2012, 10:23 AM) yup, i did that as well. All you need to do is to be extra cautious sometimes. A reduction in Vit has a price at some point. At least, it helps your farming activity. Then, use force weapon and sparkflint...it should more than 80K dps..
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GoGo.Net
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Nov 8 2012, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 8 2012, 10:09 AM) surprising....a 52% crit is actually way more than enough to lock down a group of mobsters and single monster. I'm at 36% also find it comfortable to do lock down enemies, mayn but i guess we know where's the weakness in this. Your iAS. Try boost that up and we'll see how you progress from there. You are right, previously 1.93 speed, keep not enough arcane to spam skill.. now much better... Tried with living lightning, but it took too long to kills mobs
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peinsama
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Nov 8 2012, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(GoGo.Net @ Nov 8 2012, 11:49 AM) You are right, previously 1.93 speed, keep not enough arcane to spam skill.. now much better... Tried with living lightning, but it took too long to kills mobs Not for me, especially when im able to lock and stun them  remember, the focus is to lock them then use your EB chain reaction to finish enemies off. It's a lil unrealistic to depend on Wicked Wind or Living Lightning to finish enemies off because we're using them to generate critical mass and AP.
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olman
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Nov 8 2012, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(GoGo.Net @ Nov 8 2012, 11:49 AM) You are right, previously 1.93 speed, keep not enough arcane to spam skill.. now much better... Tried with living lightning, but it took too long to kills mobs until blizz decide to buff energy twister and other signature skills which is now on the low side of dmg, you use it only to proc cm not to kill
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metalfreak
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Nov 8 2012, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(olman @ Nov 8 2012, 01:35 PM) until blizz decide to buff energy twister and other signature skills which is now on the low side of dmg, you use it only to proc cm not to kill  bro, peinsama said you are using meteor? Can I see your build bro? I tried yesterday but tak biasa la.
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chriswoo
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Nov 8 2012, 01:52 PM
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guys actually I would like to know what other nice combination skill other than CM/WW that efficient at MP 8 above. I sick using my finger press nonstop button 123 and left/right click all the time for every run
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peinsama
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Nov 8 2012, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(chriswoo @ Nov 8 2012, 01:52 PM) guys actually I would like to know what other nice combination skill other than CM/WW that efficient at MP 8 above. I sick using my finger press nonstop button 123 and left/right click all the time for every run there are many out there but since you mentioned mp-8, its narrowed and it still lean towards CM/WW. I'm trying to develop living lightning/ EB build pack together with slow bubble+teleport in preparation for higher mp. Tried it at mp5. It's doable but because of my gears, its not efficient in the long run/haul. So rather than blaming on the skills, i blamed it on my gears set. So far, i'm loving my build. Probably will switch my stretch time skill slot to Meteor Liquefy rune skillz once my CC gets a boost. P.S. : Y'all don't follow me my style, once it starts to kick ass, i will patent it. OH WAI
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metalfreak
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Nov 8 2012, 02:40 PM
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I feel like using slow time(time warp for 20% more damage) and sparkflint
then i have to sacrifice teleport >.<
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peinsama
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Nov 8 2012, 02:50 PM
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yes, i used time warp, its awesome but the orange color irks me. So i use stretch time cause its blueish.
No way, im going to sacrifice teleport lol. Especially against those jailer, waller, frozen type
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olman
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Nov 8 2012, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 8 2012, 01:42 PM) bro, peinsama said you are using meteor? Can I see your build bro? I tried yesterday but tak biasa la. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/rambo-1416/hero/19736234i testing meteor only, i swap different skills on the left mouse click the rest remains. anyway my current skills are rojak, imusing it to paragon lvl up only, my usual playstyle is CM/WW
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peinsama
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Nov 8 2012, 02:58 PM
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DPS manyak cantik man
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olman
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Nov 8 2012, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 8 2012, 02:58 PM) DPS manyak cantik man  wer got cuntek, u should see wallance, thales dps if i recall ur dps oso higher than mine noob dps
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metalfreak
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Nov 8 2012, 03:07 PM
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yeah, too much to sacrifice teleport. may be ditch sparkflint for time warp
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peinsama
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Nov 8 2012, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(olman @ Nov 8 2012, 03:02 PM) wer got cuntek, u should see wallance, thales dps if i recall ur dps oso higher than mine noob dps nolah, yours way higher but im catching up
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chriswoo
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Nov 8 2012, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 8 2012, 02:31 PM) there are many out there but since you mentioned mp-8, its narrowed and it still lean towards CM/WW. I'm trying to develop living lightning/ EB build pack together with slow bubble+teleport in preparation for higher mp. Tried it at mp5. It's doable but because of my gears, its not efficient in the long run/haul. So rather than blaming on the skills, i blamed it on my gears set. So far, i'm loving my build. Probably will switch my stretch time skill slot to Meteor Liquefy rune skillz once my CC gets a boost. P.S. : Y'all don't follow me my style, once it starts to kick ass, i will patent it. OH WAI  quite sad as I try so many other combination but still not very effective at mp 8 and above especially elite with motlen + fire chain and frozen, my feeling too only build the most least death is lean to CM/WW This post has been edited by chriswoo: Nov 8 2012, 04:12 PM
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peinsama
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Nov 8 2012, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(chriswoo @ Nov 8 2012, 04:11 PM) quite sad as I try so many other combination but still not very effective at mp 8 and above especially elite with motlen + fire chain and frozen, my feeling too only build the most least death is lean to CM/WW yup that's why when you mentioned mp 8, there's really not much choice there. Even if you find a sweet spot, there's a possibility you need to change gears which i believe you have invested alot in your current build.
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olman
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Nov 8 2012, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(chriswoo @ Nov 8 2012, 04:11 PM) quite sad as I try so many other combination but still not very effective at mp 8 and above especially elite with motlen + fire chain and frozen, my feeling too only build the most least death is lean to CM/WW true cm/ww is the only viable build hence wen blizz nerfed sc. ppl complain like hell. cos thats the ony viable build for wiz in higher mp and it now requires loads more gold for upgrades to make it work pre 105 but still not as efficient. pipu complain blizz nerf without giving anything in return and no blue response at all in bnet forum. whers the luv? This post has been edited by olman: Nov 8 2012, 04:25 PM
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yuhhaur
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Nov 8 2012, 04:31 PM
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Anybody with low hp (VIT) effectively use Energy armor rune force armor? I read a rather dangerous build - to stack up your LOH/LS as high as possible and forget about stacking health. use this rune to tackle the low hp issue.
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peinsama
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Nov 8 2012, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 8 2012, 04:31 PM) Anybody with low hp (VIT) effectively use Energy armor rune force armor? I read a rather dangerous build - to stack up your LOH/LS as high as possible and forget about stacking health. use this rune to tackle the low hp issue. i rather focus on prismatic to be honest. Last time when i use this rune skill, its not that effective. However on the contrary, i see its importance in higher monster power level. Combine with LOH and LS, oh yeah...it shines. unfortunately, im not interested in armor skill already. I go for a bigger one...slow time.
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