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 Nokia 808 - V03 - [The King of Camera Phones], the legendary 41mp phone cam hidden gem

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post Apr 17 2013, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(stephen2282 @ Apr 17 2013, 02:57 PM)
Seems like a solid device to use. Will look into it in my nearest phone stores. Thanks for info.  biggrin.gif  And the price is cheap too! I'm expecting something like RM1700-1800. lol
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If u go randomly to shop..they will quote price rm1799...
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post Apr 17 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(haki @ Apr 17 2013, 02:59 PM)
If u go randomly to shop..they will quote price rm1799...
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That's a huge difference! shocking.gif
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post Apr 17 2013, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(stephen2282 @ Apr 17 2013, 03:13 PM)
That's a huge difference!  shocking.gif
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Ya huge diff...but i found cheapest at shah alam rm1100...find aaronac he sell 999....
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QUOTE(haki @ Apr 17 2013, 03:16 PM)
Ya huge diff...but i found cheapest at shah alam rm1100...find aaronac he sell 999....
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Okay I will look for him. Thanks biggrin.gif
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post Apr 19 2013, 09:12 PM

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+ excellent one-hand ergonomic. back matte gives good grip.
+ symbian flies with 808 spec, 512mb memory is nice!
+ dedicated GPU for photo processing etc is good
+ excellent display even in full sunlight
+ no need to say about 41mp. lossless video zoom is amazing.
+ strong phone and map performance.
+ always like nokia build quality.

- standard qwerty keyboard needs some tweaking
- no video call over skype!

great upgrade over n8. wish i had bought it sooner. i am not an app person
almost bought n9, but 808 is really nice. who says symbian is dead!
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post Apr 19 2013, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 24 2013, 06:23 PM)
rm 69 , orginal nokia from LYP nokia store(opposite the mac store) got 3 , when i got there .. one red, two black ... i chose red .
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Thanks for ur info...just bought ori case there and its rm69...i feel nice on hand not to bulky imho...
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post Apr 19 2013, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(haki @ Apr 19 2013, 09:45 PM)
Thanks for ur info...just bought ori case there and its rm69...i feel nice on hand not to bulky imho...
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Got speaker hole?
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Apr 19 2013, 10.29 PM)
Got speaker hole?
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Ya got speaker hole...really love it...
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post Apr 20 2013, 04:49 PM

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since when the original got speaker hole??

btw, im still surprised that almost all of you are fine with the banding issue.. im talking about low light photos and videos.. ok, i get it, high iso cannot go but for low light video?? I AM VERY SURPRISED ALL OF YOU DIDN'T COMPLAIN!!
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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Apr 20 2013, 04:49 PM)
since when the original got speaker hole??

btw, im still surprised that almost all of you are fine with the banding issue.. im talking about low light photos and videos.. ok, i get it, high iso cannot go but for low light video?? I AM VERY SURPRISED ALL OF YOU DIDN'T COMPLAIN!!
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FYI, Someone in LYN already selling revised version (with cap speaker hole) since Jan 2013 https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2441535/all
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QUOTE(realjazzcoke @ Apr 20 2013, 06:06 PM)
FYI, Someone in LYN already selling revised version (with cap speaker hole) since Jan 2013 https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2441535/all
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now that is a PureCapHole PCH! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Apr 20 2013, 04:49 PM)
since when the original got speaker hole??

btw, im still surprised that almost all of you are fine with the banding issue.. im talking about low light photos and videos.. ok, i get it, high iso cannot go but for low light video?? I AM VERY SURPRISED ALL OF YOU DIDN'T COMPLAIN!!
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go to nokia store...they already sell it.....
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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Apr 20 2013, 04:49 PM)
since when the original got speaker hole??

btw, im still surprised that almost all of you are fine with the banding issue.. im talking about low light photos and videos.. ok, i get it, high iso cannot go but for low light video?? I AM VERY SURPRISED ALL OF YOU DIDN'T COMPLAIN!!
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Nothing to worry about. So far I have yet to encounter any need to force ISO 1600 in low light situation. I haven't try video though.

QUOTE(haki @ Apr 20 2013, 05:35 PM)
go to nokia store...they already sell it.....
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Which Nokia store did you get this from? Is the cap easy to remove and install?

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post Apr 20 2013, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Apr 20 2013, 07:15 PM)
Nothing to worry about. So far I have yet to encounter any need to force ISO 1600 in low light situation. I haven't try video though.
Which Nokia store did you get this from? Is the cap easy to remove and install?
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its pretty obvious for low light situations, its like recording with 5800xm it has so many unwanted ugly noises shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

if nokia fix this, no doubt that i'll be buying this phone again

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post Apr 20 2013, 07:18 PM

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this is the prototype of 808, notice the fast zoom feature (now slow down a bit but its fine for me)

and don't tell me you guys didn't notice the weird flashy blue light and major noise distortion (purely detail but purely ugly distasteful color noise!!) came out on the video,
i was hoping for nokia to fix the problem both photo/video but they didn't..
this is a HUGE mistakes made by Nokia and I can't see why people are ignoring it..

IT BOTHERS ME A LOT!!! A LOT!!!

This post has been edited by ulwan25: Apr 20 2013, 07:20 PM
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post Apr 20 2013, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Apr 20 2013, 06:15 PM)
Nothing to worry about. So far I have yet to encounter any need to force ISO 1600 in low light situation. I haven't try video though.
Which Nokia store did you get this from? Is the cap easy to remove and install?
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Nokia storw at lowyat plaza..opposite mac shop...not so hard to open if right way....
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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Apr 20 2013, 07:18 PM)


this is the prototype of 808, notice the fast zoom feature (now slow down a bit but its fine for me)

and don't tell me you guys didn't notice the weird flashy blue light and major noise distortion (purely detail but purely ugly distasteful color noise!!) came out on the video,
i was hoping for nokia to fix the problem both photo/video but they didn't..
this is a HUGE mistakes made by Nokia and I can't see why people are ignoring it..

IT BOTHERS ME A LOT!!! A LOT!!!
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only happen to low light? what about bright condition, also got this blue flare noise too ?

i don't find the video camcorder is very good unless your hand is very steady or use some stabilizer, else a little shake can cause the video so blury.
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post Apr 22 2013, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Apr 20 2013, 07:18 PM)
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this is the prototype of 808, notice the fast zoom feature (now slow down a bit but its fine for me)

and don't tell me you guys didn't notice the weird flashy blue light and major noise distortion (purely detail but purely ugly distasteful color noise!!) came out on the video,
i was hoping for nokia to fix the problem both photo/video but they didn't..
this is a HUGE mistakes made by Nokia and I can't see why people are ignoring it..

IT BOTHERS ME A LOT!!! A LOT!!!
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Do you still have some shots of yours that indicates the problem as stated? care to share?

As far as I'm using it till now, minor noise on low-light shots was normal, at least acceptable to my eye. Others issues like inaccurate indoor WB, slow shutter on auto modes, these i can live with it. The image quality for low-light already surpassed my P&S 12MP Canon SX200 (minus the optical zoom). Not to mention in daylight, 808 dominates my compact camera in overall image quality. Examples of my recent experimental lousy low light shots, comments are welcome:

Handheld (low-light)
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1/10sec, ISO400, EV -0.7

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1/12sec, ISO400, EV -1.7 (still think that should go lower on EV, but just a quick shot)

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1/8sec, ISO500, EV -1

Stabilizing tools used (evening)
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1/8sec, ISO800, EV+1

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2.7sec, ISO50, EV+1 ND not sure izit on or off (as if the scene was low light enuf, it can still achieve 2.7 sec without ND)

Nokia no longer going to produced any Symbian phone as we know, if it is a hardware issue, you can only hope for the WP series. Period. BUT, are you certain that this fix can be carried out by software hmm.gif ?

Still, im still amazed that these images actually comes from a cameraphone brows.gif you can visit the gallery for more sifu's action on 808 performance icon_idea.gif (38MP Full resolution Gallery tongue.gif )
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post Apr 23 2013, 03:19 AM

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it was about an old discussion (sorry for opening it again, I just can't control myself) about the higher ISO prominently visible if you push up to 800 and 1600 and snap at a very low light condition or night

http://discussions.nokia.com/discussions/a...oot_pic1600.jpg

I am bothered because I highly use high ISO than lower one.. oke, I get it! ISO 1600 was too ridiculous ever to put on a phone but at least make ISO 800 usuable!! I prefer non blur movements in night rather than blurry pics with killer quality,, it just doesn't make sense at all.. seeing that Nokia can't solve this, It'll be worth looking for the next WP 41mp

btw, apart from all,

N82, N86, N8, 808, L920 (i don't consider this as great cameraphone though, small sensor lahaiii shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif )

I highly preferred N82 and N8, good shots less problem even N86 got this weird purple-ish cloud pictures and now with the problematic 808 had cause me a major letdown.. c'mon man, the best cameraphone in the world but tak bleh solve masalah kecik inih ayyyaaaaaaaaaaa record inside house in 1080p with bad lighting causing the phones got weird flashy noise WATTAHELLISDISSSSS baik record dlm format VGA lagi bagus rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Apr 23 2013, 03:19 AM)
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No problem, at least to me is still new...haha. I haven't gone up to ISO1600 before (nor i will going to), doh.gif as for those discussion shots, both in ISO1600, i mentioned earlier, either u wan steady shot with noise, or blur shot with no noise, your call. To me, at least both shots are pretty usable (Judging by those situations) And for what i can see from the shot, it can actually achieve much better results without cranking up to ISO1600 (the stuffed toy pic, since the shutter speed is 1/614, for me, 1/100 or 1/50 is enough to get a clear shot, in the same situation, with reduced ISO level, T & C apply la laugh.gif ). To tell you the truth, even my Canon SX200 ISO1600 is worst that 808.

All your listed cameraphone have their own unique, something you must know that, 808 evolved from those models, without them, no PureView today. Either they are good or bad, they are still the reference camera that Juha's team take in to consideration to create the sensor room and optic size for 808, with the collaboration with Carl Zeiss.

There is no such thing as best cameraphone "forever" edi, only time will tell, maybe best cameraphone on certain era, yes, i agree. Have you noticed how Samsung tops their best Galaxy every year to wow the crowd? How long will the top last ?

How sure you know that this is a small problem anyway? not always software do the magic part, hardware & components are crucial too.

High ISO originally will naturally create more noise in reality (even PureView Tech wont save you from this, as super pixel sampling process with noise at the end you will still get... noise). You do alot of night shots without flash often? prefer high shutter speed priority? In that case, may i suggest that you consider a real DSLR or camcorder? Big names like C, N or S have been in this field more than 10 -20 years or more. It is time to move on bro! You already known 808's weakness, and yes, every phone has its own weakness tongue.gif

Cameraphone is still just a "camera" phone, it will not going to replace the DSLR or dedicated professional imaging tool in future.

I hope you are happy with your 808 while it was still alive back then... sweat.gif

This post has been edited by realjazzcoke: Apr 23 2013, 11:45 AM

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