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Hi-Fi Audiophile Bookshelf Speaker: X-LS Encore, Rated 5-star from audiofi.net

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post Jun 21 2014, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Jun 20 2014, 11:08 AM)
Ya, please do a Justice Bao listening session to compare those 2 drool.gif

Can't wait for you all reviews cool.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Hi bro, I have to tell you this will not happen. My friend in KL have called and SMSed this fellow but got not response from him eventually.

By the way, I have called Taiwan www.AudioTaste.com.tw, who designed the speaker, and spoke to Mr Chung, and I was informed this is a speaker is to imitate BBC LS3/5A. Currently, it is priced at NT$8999 (RM899) with NT$1500 (RM150) discount voucher, and it is made by AAA in China. The two drivers are built by Jamo (I also heard Jamo has discontinued this drivers, for a reason they do not know).

I also spoke to MS Chen in AAA, China, where she promised me to point me to a speaker engineer and again it was never happened. It looked like they only able to read the spec from the website but not able to answer most of my questions.

Most importantly, after hours, nobody has or able to show me a SPL chart.

I have also spoken to my friends in Taiwan and Singapore and none of them realized the existence of the speaker. But one of my kind Taiwanese headfi friend, Mr Ching, pointed me to a forum thread,

https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Headphone/M.1372947283.A.ACE.html

Accordingly, the impression of AAA 3/5A is as

" 喇叭區擺放的喇叭不多,以PSB、AAA、Amphion、KEF等廠牌為主 進去的時候,喇叭區唱歌的喇叭是AAA的復刻JM-3/5A 不大清楚是哪台AMP推的 聲音有點粗,低頻偏少,中頻還可以,高頻有點雜 各種聲音的搭配間夾有粗糙的顆粒,導致聲音銜接不是很流暢"

Google translated,

"There is not many speakers in the area: PSB, AAA, Amphion, KEF and other brands, the playing system is JM-3/5A AAA and an unknown amp, the acoustics was a little rough, no bass, mid is acceptable, high register is messy, the convergence of high, mid and low are filled up with rough particles, making the overall sound not very smooth"

Are you you still tempted?

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post Jun 22 2014, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(burdiespooler @ Jun 22 2014, 12:39 PM)
Most people use Tube amp to drive LS3/5a which they claimed is the better setup than pairing with SS amp. May I suggest the comparison of both speakers to be conducted under both SS and tube amp? at least under fair basis.
The AAA JM3/5a selling by another lowyat reseller in fact is 'obsoleted'product, the taiwan company introduced second edition some time ago (yes the one dropped to NT8999), but with Open Back design which betray the original design philosophy.
I have asked a few LS3/5a owner (regardless Roger/Kef etc) about this triple A imitate (or can we use reproduce) performance, none of them 'encourage' me to buy it, by giving reason such as "better buy well known or original brand" "you get what you pay for, in other word cheap does not guarantee quality" and the killing/cooling statement like "you don't have tube amp, what for you buy it".
Well, after cooling off for quite some time, i come across this Encore and almost buy from GR-Research (if not because of custom duty and the expensive courier charges....) But luckily I found one selling at Malaysia.
After having Encore for few months, I would say i love it more than my other price double speaker, especially after adding tube buffer (poor man tube setup). I don't know how to use those audio term to describe it (as all are personal judgement) but i like it more with tube buffer.
My fellow Encore owner here, have any of you mob the cap and resistor at the crossover? (FX20 might not agree). I kind of itchy want to upgrade the cap to sonicap (widely use by oversea Encore owner) or may be Mundorf cap... Please share here..
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This is what I think about your thought on crossover. The current Encore facilitates high quality metallized polypropylene caps and air inductors. The purpose of crossover is to filter high and low pass. Changing the caps or inductor may improve the acoustics, probably smoother roll-offs, but I believe the money spent may have little effect of the output.

If you still want to try to play with crossover, I suggest you to look into this, DSP 2.4.

http://www.emeraldphysics.com/p/digital-processors.html

It worth the money to play with this alternative. Besides, it also fun to play with it.



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post Jul 14 2014, 01:00 AM

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Coming soon ... MTM, a perfect match for XLS Encore.

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post Aug 26 2014, 06:40 AM

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Introducing X-CS Encore ...

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The Mid-Tweeter-Mid (MTM) is our new addition to the X series line of speaker since we have introduced X-LS Encore in 2013. X-CS Encore is originally meant to be a center channel to match X-LS Encore who loves multi-channel listening experience.

One of the significant fact about this speaker is the X-CS Encore is a sealed box which is attributed with slow bass roll-off and can be easily balanced with a subwoofer which provides a larger sweet spot for the low frequency crossover compared to ported speakers.

The best part is, with two units of X-CS Encore, they can be placed vertically on speaker stands functioning as stereo speaker. The on-axis listening height will deliver the smoothest sound on most listening material. We assure you that the female vocalists sounded sweet and clear, and male vocalists sounded rich and strong.

For more info, please visit

http://www.curveacoustics.com/x-cs-encore.html
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post Sep 15 2014, 01:57 PM

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Audiofi.net has rated XLS-Encore with 5 stars.


"There was nothing to dislike about the Encores, from the sonic perspective. They serve up a generous scale, and are well-controlled and finely detailed, conveying much of the musicality inherent in a recording without fuss. Whatever your musical diet, these black boxes have a handle on it. And there’s the bass…"



Please read the full review at

http://audiofi.net/2014/08/x-ls-encore-spe...for-bass-heads/

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post Oct 2 2014, 01:57 PM

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Since a lot of people asked me what is the use of copper cap in the woofers, here is the answer.

It is used for reduce impedance increment at high frequency and reduce the nonlinearity due to inductance modulation.
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post Nov 19 2014, 09:17 PM

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Nice.

Any significant difference with the sonicaps?
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post Nov 20 2014, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Nov 19 2014, 09:26 PM)
Hi Chin How

I understand from Mr Lim he is finally getting a unit in to his shop. Looking forward to finally trying out the X-LS Encore.

Please extend my apologise to your friend for not taking up his invite.

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Mr Lai, I visited Lim last Saturday and I have promised send him a pair for him to play with. Hopefully, it will be there this or next week.

Sorry for taking this long to settle.
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post Nov 20 2014, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(carcrazy @ Nov 20 2014, 12:18 AM)
Definitely big difference. In fact i posion the owner to upgrade further to flat copper foil inductor soak in wax for more harmonics n separation..hehe
i have removed the tweeter bypass cap 0.1uf as its not needed since the new main value caps are of similar grade unless its a sonic teflon caps.

the speaker will be at my place in PJ till this sat only. Owner taking them back. Ur welcome to drop by for an audition
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Wow, sound like you have brought the speaker performance to another level in term of the bass speed and detail. I am glad you like it eventually. Perhaps the next upgrade will be damping material? No-Rez, anyone?

I will definitely want to audition, too bad I am in over-the-sea-Sarawak now.

What your owner used to run the speaker?
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post Nov 20 2014, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(carcrazy @ Nov 20 2014, 12:25 AM)
Speaker is excellent. But din like the cardboard make for the rear port..but then again at its price, cant complain much lar..
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We have requested to change the PVC port to MDF due to sonic differences not the cost. In fact, they cost almost the same. MDF port has less resonance compared to PVC. We have a reference here from the original AV123 with PVC port, to compare with.
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post Nov 20 2014, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Nov 20 2014, 09:11 AM)
Have you done similar a similar thing to Monitor Audios Silver Speaker?

How much does something like this cost the owner?
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Mr Lai, you should go and audition it, it is like once in a life time chances, rclxms.gif
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post Nov 22 2014, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Nov 21 2014, 03:18 PM)
And Chance GRABBED!

The Speaker sounds... FANTASTIC

For THAT price range and the size the sound is AMAZING!!!

The detail, VERY TRANSPARENT!!!!

I am sure the setup had something to do with that...

Now that I have the chance to listen to the "upgraded" version, I really look forward to hearing it before the upgrade.

MR LIM!!! When is your set arriving!!!!

Seriously people, especially the ones who are looking for your first pair of Hifi speakers, seriously consider this!!!

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The stock crossover is a better one when compared to the original ones. You still have the smooth high, clear mid and punchy bass.

Lim is playing with the speaker now.
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post Nov 22 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(carcrazy @ Nov 22 2014, 10:00 AM)
Mov freak,
Thank you. We need to share so give ppl more options.
rather than depending on reviews whic sometimes is not accurate
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I have listened to your line array at klav 2014. I thought it was really good in construction and sound.

Unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to listen to your Aphologee(sorry if I spelled it wrongly).
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post Nov 22 2014, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Nov 22 2014, 09:59 AM)
Hello, can I come to your place oso? i'd love to audit others setup  biggrin.gif
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Be careful of what u wish. You may be poisioned.
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post Nov 24 2014, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Nov 24 2014, 03:33 PM)
if i get a pair whats a budget way to power these bad boys?
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We have heard good result with Topping TP60, Marantz Stereo amp, any modern tube amp. It's all depend on your budget. I have a number of serious customers driving the speaker with 2x Emerald Physics EP100.SE as monoblock and the sound was stunning from high to low frequency.
Anyway, the speaker is versatile and easy to drive.
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post Nov 24 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Nov 24 2014, 05:33 PM)
well im already spending quite a bit on the speakers so was thinking either 1/3 of the speakers price or at most maximum 1/2 the price of the speakers. So anything that's the best budget-ish bang for buck-ish!
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Usually, the speaker is the final node in the hifi chain and I would spend as much as I could on speaker. For around RM600-700, you don't have much choice except TP60.

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post Nov 28 2014, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(ogony75 @ Nov 28 2014, 03:08 PM)
How the sound quality compare with audioengine a5+?
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First thing, you can't defy the law of physics. The size of the driver basically give you some info already, assuming that both speakers are probably built.

Secondly, if you look at the SPL chart of XLS Encore, it is flat, aka balance and can easily pair with most of the amps.

Last, both are designed for different purposes, desktop vs big space.

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post Nov 28 2014, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(TheGardener @ Nov 28 2014, 02:11 PM)
Tq all.

will bring my amp over to try the speakers.. hohoho.
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What amp are you using?
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post Nov 28 2014, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Nov 28 2014, 03:16 PM)
much better, I came from Aktimate Mini which is better than ae5+

So, Xls Encore> Aktimate Mini > Ae5+
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Of courselah bro, you are using a highend power amp. The immediate different is the soundstage.

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post Nov 28 2014, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Nov 28 2014, 09:58 AM)
don't intend to have too pricey system for this setup as it is going to be my secondary setup
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I always believe and wanted a affordable system. thumbup.gif

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