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post Oct 10 2012, 01:51 AM, updated 14y ago

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Im 22 now and 5 more months to complete my degree in TARC.

Im bored with my social life here, indeed, the government aswell... I feel like put down everything here and leave for another country and have a restart of my life. Making new friends, new environment, and find my ownself and so on.

For those who migrate, i know is not easy to let go your home country, but still u made it right?? I wanna ask about how's life migrating to other country, how ur heart feels towards leaving ur family which will only meet them once a while. How how and how.

Please give me some opinion and advice, i would really cherish every single of you. =)


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post Oct 10 2012, 02:15 AM

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only 22 talking like you've been through life?
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post Oct 10 2012, 02:17 AM

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just expressing my feelings... So planning to..
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post Oct 10 2012, 02:18 AM

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post Oct 10 2012, 02:21 AM

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you can't even adapt to a place that you lived for 22 years... you think you can do better at someplace that people treat you as immigrant?
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post Oct 10 2012, 02:23 AM

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Most people move into another country because of social injustice (read it on some graph fact) and second followed by working offshore.

If you hate Malaysia so much maybe can start the 2nd choice. Try to work in a different country (but I dont think this will be easy too >.<)
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post Oct 10 2012, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(ocphangaz @ Oct 10 2012, 02:21 AM)
you can't even adapt to a place that you lived for 22 years... you think you can do better at someplace that people treat you as immigrant?
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Just i feel that this this place is not belongs to me..if not what can i do now to improve my life?


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QUOTE(EarendurFefalas @ Oct 10 2012, 02:23 AM)
Most people move into another country because of social injustice (read it on some graph fact) and second followed by working offshore.

If you hate Malaysia so much maybe can start the 2nd choice. Try to work in a different country (but I dont think this will be easy too >.<)
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Is not easy, yes, i agree with it. It is tougher than moving to another state in Malaysia. I love Malaysia, but i cant make it into peoples around me. Good friends 2 or 3? In other case like, most of them against me? I cant express myself, ppl wont give me a ear. Is my problem? Mostly all on my own, my family doesnt give me any support but just wanting me to follow what it should be... This is why i feel lke get out of here and find my own life. And i hope i can make it fast.

What do you think? what can i do next?

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post Oct 10 2012, 02:41 AM

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post Oct 10 2012, 08:27 AM

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post Oct 10 2012, 09:12 AM

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Have you travel to other countries before? If not, try travelling around the world - backpacker style. Or go for those work and travel programs, before deciding to migrate to another country.

To migrate to another country, you require some financial background, either that or you have to graduate from that country to be able to find a proper job easier. And even if you migrate, most of the time, the Asians will mix around with the Asians only, in fact, Malaysian will mix around with Malaysians only, maybe a few friends from other races but the main group of friends are still Malaysians.

And always remember the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
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post Oct 10 2012, 09:28 AM

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Your walk path isnt make to be smooth. You are the 1 who responsible to make it smooth. Every successful person come from a hard life too.. Its just like a mountain climbing, you will never know how good it feel to be on the top if you keep giving up in the half way. Everyone pass thru the feeling & moments you been thru now.
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QUOTE(Mazdasaga @ Oct 10 2012, 01:51 AM)
Im bored with my social life here

That's sort of a sh*t reason to want to migrate. Malaysia is where all your family friends, old friends, school friends, relatives, college mates, etc are. If you have a crap social life here, what makes you think it'll be any better in a new country where you don't know anybody?
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if you can't get along with people here, you can't get along with people from different culture.
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post Oct 10 2012, 03:57 PM

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problems with fresh graduates nowadays (heard from litefm or bfm yesterday)
1. expecting high salary
2. not up-to-date with latest news
3. no soft-skills

if you have one of the above, don't even think about being successful in another place
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post Oct 10 2012, 04:33 PM

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Not easy to let go your home country??? What rubbish. It 's all in your mind
Me?? I wasn't born with a silverspoon in my mouth. My grades were just 'average'. Finished F5 and can't get into F6. Relatives in Canada sponsored me over. When that day came, just packed my bags and headed to the airport and that was it. The unspoken rule was I aint coming back until I got my degree. In Canada, I did my G12. Again, average grades. Applied to uni and had to wait till early Aug to I get my acceptance letter Cream of the crops get their choice while people like me were fillers. Took me 5 years to complete my degree. Why?? cvos i bombed my Calculus on my first attempt. Calculus was a prerequiste course for some of the courses. So it was 6 years beore I go home. When I got home I cannot tahan the heat and humidity. House has no air con.Only fans. Still remembers taking 6-7 baths a day just to cool down
Was very happy when that day came when I headed to the airport. Back to Canada
Currently working with company whose clients are oil/gas companies, pulp and paper companies, mining companies and petrochemical companies. Coming back to Malaysia to work?? Forget it. I am just a BSc holder with average grade. I am sure Talent Corp consider me as a non talent. Despite the gov't taking some 25% of my paycheque, I am still better off financially. Car is cheap, gas is cheap. food is cheap, eating out is expensive but junk food is cheap ,electronic stuff are cheap etc. Eg Nissan Rogue AWD 2013 model is around $27k while gas is around $1.15/L, 10 pcs KFC plus medium fries is less than $21. Working and pay taxes,health care is taken care off. No need to buy expensive private insurance etc etc
My advise. if you thinking of migration, don't be sentimental. Cross the bridge and burn it


QUOTE(Mazdasaga @ Oct 10 2012, 01:51 AM)
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For those who migrate, i know is not easy to let go your home country, but still u made it right?? I wanna ask about how's life migrating to other country, how ur heart feels towards leaving ur family which will only meet them once a while. How how and how.


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post Oct 10 2012, 08:26 PM

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Agree with segamatboy.

Nak buat, then buat aje lah.

Only yourself will know the real reason for emigrating. There's nothing wrong if you want to earn more money or just want a life somewhere where no one cares about you.

It's not compulsory that you mix with the locals though doing so would make your life easier. If you're an introvert and prefer to stick to your old friends, then emigration will be a great challenge for you. If you're one who enjoys meeting people, building relationships, can get along with everybody then emigration will be an exciting opportunity for you.

Emigration after all means leaving your comfort zone, leaving familiarity and transplanting yourself abruptly into a foreign environment. The weather would be harsh, food will be different, language and popular culture will be different, your lifestyle will have to change. No mamak, no hawker store, no 24 hr shops, no pasar malam. If you can't make friends easily, you'll quickly get depressed.


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post Oct 10 2012, 10:41 PM

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If you have the opportunity take it, you still can decide once you have some experience oversea.

Doesn't matter what other's opinion are, its your life and how you write your history is suppose to be no one but you alone who decide.

Be a leader not a lemming in life.
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post Oct 11 2012, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(segamatboy @ Oct 10 2012, 04:33 PM)
Not easy to let go your home country??? What rubbish. It 's all in your mind
Me?? I wasn't born with a silverspoon in my mouth. My grades were just 'average'. Finished F5 and can't get into F6. Relatives in Canada sponsored me over. When that day came, just packed my bags  and  headed to the airport and that was it. The unspoken rule was I aint coming back until I got my degree. In Canada, I did my G12. Again, average grades. Applied to uni and had to wait till early Aug to I get my acceptance letter Cream of the crops get their choice while people like me were fillers. Took me 5 years to complete my degree. Why?? cvos i bombed my Calculus on my first attempt. Calculus was a prerequiste course for some of the courses. So it was 6 years beore I go home. When I got home I cannot tahan the heat and humidity. House has no air con.Only fans. Still remembers taking 6-7 baths a day just to cool down
Was very happy when that day came when I headed to the airport. Back to Canada
Currently working with company whose clients are oil/gas companies, pulp and paper companies, mining companies and petrochemical companies.  Coming back to Malaysia to work?? Forget it. I am just a BSc holder with average grade. I am sure Talent Corp consider me as a non talent. Despite the gov't taking some 25% of my paycheque, I am still better off financially. Car is cheap, gas is cheap. food is cheap, eating out is expensive but junk food is cheap ,electronic stuff are cheap etc. Eg Nissan Rogue AWD 2013 model is around $27k while gas is around $1.15/L, 10 pcs KFC plus medium fries is less than $21. Working and pay taxes,health care is taken care off. No need to buy expensive private insurance etc etc
My advise. if you thinking of migration, don't be sentimental. Cross the bridge and burn it
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Which part of Canada you stay? You are Canadian Citizen now or PR?

Canada is a very boring place, am I right?

Living in a white man world, never miss Asia?

No matter what, don't ever forget who we are, our identity. No matter what, we are always an Asian.


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post Oct 11 2012, 02:42 PM

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Malaysia best country woohoo... I would like to work oversea and travel but still Malaysia is comfort zone ... Meeting new friends is quite hard especially for introvert like myself.. I'm 20, a diploma holder and currently working in Singapore ... I plan to go further like UK or even Middle East if I have the chance ... Make life and no just plainly living it...
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it's awesome lol
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post Oct 12 2012, 08:36 PM

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Guys guys. I think you forgot something very important to tell OP

>implying you can land a job overseas when you're studying locally.
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post Oct 13 2012, 01:40 PM

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If you have the means, travel to some foreign country & live there abit

If not, try applying for some sort of temporary working permit etc, do some jobs to sustain yourself, & see if you really belong there or not
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post Oct 13 2012, 02:26 PM

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yup... as per many advises here.... travels to other places first... then try working / staying there for extended period... see wether can or not. uni time is the best time to adjust to new places.. often pipu work in near place of graduate
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Did it and loving it at the moment. Better money, better weather and lesser stress. Not sure about you. It depends on the individual.
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post Oct 13 2012, 10:17 PM

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New zealand is the best country for TS to tryout, with a working holiday scheme. People can be friendlier and more welcoming than anyone you've known, so it feels like home and easier to settle down. Just go south where there is less maori.
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QUOTE(ysoon @ Oct 11 2012, 12:54 PM)
Which part of Canada you stay?  You are Canadian Citizen now or PR?

Canada is a very boring place, am I right?

Living in a white man world, never miss Asia?

No matter what, don't ever forget who we are, our identity.  No matter what, we are always an Asian.
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QUOTE(segamatboy @ Oct 10 2012, 04:33 PM)
Not easy to let go your home country??? What rubbish. It 's all in your mind
Me?? I wasn't born with a silverspoon in my mouth. My grades were just 'average'. Finished F5 and can't get into F6. Relatives in Canada sponsored me over. When that day came, just packed my bags  and  headed to the airport and that was it. The unspoken rule was I aint coming back until I got my degree. In Canada, I did my G12. Again, average grades. Applied to uni and had to wait till early Aug to I get my acceptance letter Cream of the crops get their choice while people like me were fillers. Took me 5 years to complete my degree. Why?? cvos i bombed my Calculus on my first attempt. Calculus was a prerequiste course for some of the courses. So it was 6 years beore I go home. When I got home I cannot tahan the heat and humidity. House has no air con.Only fans. Still remembers taking 6-7 baths a day just to cool down
Was very happy when that day came when I headed to the airport. Back to Canada
Currently working with company whose clients are oil/gas companies, pulp and paper companies, mining companies and petrochemical companies.  Coming back to Malaysia to work?? Forget it. I am just a BSc holder with average grade. I am sure Talent Corp consider me as a non talent. Despite the gov't taking some 25% of my paycheque, I am still better off financially. Car is cheap, gas is cheap. food is cheap, eating out is expensive but junk food is cheap ,electronic stuff are cheap etc. Eg Nissan Rogue AWD 2013 model is around $27k while gas is around $1.15/L, 10 pcs KFC plus medium fries is less than $21. Working and pay taxes,health care is taken care off. No need to buy expensive private insurance etc etc
My advise. if you thinking of migration, don't be sentimental. Cross the bridge and burn it
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so you made ~50k/annum. not bad.jpg

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QUOTE(segamatboy @ Oct 10 2012, 04:33 PM)
Not easy to let go your home country??? What rubbish. It 's all in your mind
Me?? I wasn't born with a silverspoon in my mouth. My grades were just 'average'. Finished F5 and can't get into F6. Relatives in Canada sponsored me over. When that day came, just packed my bags  and  headed to the airport and that was it. The unspoken rule was I aint coming back until I got my degree. In Canada, I did my G12. Again, average grades. Applied to uni and had to wait till early Aug to I get my acceptance letter Cream of the crops get their choice while people like me were fillers. Took me 5 years to complete my degree. Why?? cvos i bombed my Calculus on my first attempt. Calculus was a prerequiste course for some of the courses. So it was 6 years beore I go home. When I got home I cannot tahan the heat and humidity. House has no air con.Only fans. Still remembers taking 6-7 baths a day just to cool down
Was very happy when that day came when I headed to the airport. Back to Canada
Currently working with company whose clients are oil/gas companies, pulp and paper companies, mining companies and petrochemical companies.  Coming back to Malaysia to work?? Forget it. I am just a BSc holder with average grade. I am sure Talent Corp consider me as a non talent. Despite the gov't taking some 25% of my paycheque, I am still better off financially. Car is cheap, gas is cheap. food is cheap, eating out is expensive but junk food is cheap ,electronic stuff are cheap etc. Eg Nissan Rogue AWD 2013 model is around $27k while gas is around $1.15/L, 10 pcs KFC plus medium fries is less than $21. Working and pay taxes,health care is taken care off. No need to buy expensive private insurance etc etc
My advise. if you thinking of migration, don't be sentimental. Cross the bridge and burn it
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Totally agree with this.. my uncle did the same as u,migrated to Canada and now his life is much better..
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post Oct 16 2012, 12:52 AM

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Let me tell u that is not easy to just migrate to other place.

Full of struggle and hard work..

Dont fcukin care abt ppl la..
Let them hate u n do whatever they want as long as u not get hurt psychally..
U r not gonna die just bcz u alone n dont have friend..

Try to enjoy ur lonely time..
Make urself comfortable..

After all its ur life..
Best friend not necessary to be alot..
That maybe social friends who come to u when u on top..

But seriously if u wanna go..
Just go now before u become more comfortable with ur life..
At certain age ppl tend to become lazy n just rather stay at their comfort zone..

Now its just the matter of money to support u out there..
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post Oct 16 2012, 03:21 AM

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You need a good financial background and working permit as well before u can migrate to another country....unless u planning on doin it illegally.

Its not easy but if u happens to earn the citizens right in another country then u can consider yourself lucky




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in london..for decades now.. happy with my life here.. mostly fair competitions, transperancy, you work hard..u get promoted n rewarded. left malaysia cos of double standard in education, job opportunity, housing etc ..
but i still love my own country n go home every year but no plan to go back permanently as i already have a good home.. friends here..
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u need 2 find a job 1st ba

thn c environment lor, food

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QUOTE(Mazdasaga @ Oct 10 2012, 01:51 AM)
Im 22 now and 5 more months to complete my degree in TARC.

Im bored with my social life here, indeed, the government aswell... I feel like put down everything here and leave for another country and have a restart of my life. Making new friends, new environment, and find my ownself and so on.

For those who migrate, i know is not easy to let go your home country, but still u made it right?? I wanna ask about how's life migrating to other country, how ur heart feels towards leaving ur family which will only meet them once a while. How how and how.

Please give me some opinion and advice, i would really cherish every single of you. =)
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Did that, but didn't work out for me laugh.gif Found out that grass is not always greener on the other side. Went overseas for all the wrong reason like you did, found out other country also have they own quirk that will annoy you. Also found out that wherever you go you need to adapt either way. If you can't do it here, chances are you can't do it there.
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post Oct 18 2012, 08:32 PM

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Pergi je. Go work 1st, no need immigrate. Then if u really can fit in then apply pr lo
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post Oct 19 2012, 02:30 PM

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Problem is, it is not that easy to migrate, there are quite a lot to fulfil. Maybe you should think about where to migrate first?
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my father told me , when he was like 17 ( his parents just send him to england alone to do his own things cause they had no money to travel with him nor knowledge about education etc ) and so my father had gone through the hard life of no guidance alone in england . working 2 jobs during his education years and trying to make ends meet .
i dont think nowadays students would work at the same time and study rite . more like parents fully finance them .

and now , hes and electrical engineer earning enough to support 5 people in the family + 2-3 ( on his relative side ) ,not to mention my mother side =.=

and yet he can still buy car and properties . O.O

fully finance my bigger brother to study overseas and now he graduated as an electrical enginneer . like father and son .

now its my turn , i just started uni for economics degree and again full blown financial help from him .
and education is not cheap ( not to mention if ure planning for overseas study ) at least rm250k+ overall.

imagine my bro , me and not long later , my sister . so im trying to get a scholarship to ease his burden .
i know i will never get to fully repay rm250K+ and time to him and when hes old , money is no longer a thing to him . right now , yes but by the time IF i manage to repay him , no !

sometimes i think , my father is like an iron man . able to support so many people with his hard earn money and yet still managable . and yet im still sitting here , fbing , youtube etc etc not thinking about how much to earn , how to climb the cooperate ladders, how to be successful at a young age bla bla bla =/



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QUOTE(Mazdasaga @ Oct 10 2012, 01:51 AM)
Im 22 now and 5 more months to complete my degree in TARC.

Im bored with my social life here, indeed, the government aswell... I feel like put down everything here and leave for another country and have a restart of my life. Making new friends, new environment, and find my ownself and so on.

For those who migrate, i know is not easy to let go your home country, but still u made it right?? I wanna ask about how's life migrating to other country, how ur heart feels towards leaving ur family which will only meet them once a while. How how and how.

Please give me some opinion and advice, i would really cherish every single of you. =)
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1st dont talk cock. TARC got no degree offered.Unless you talking about campbell university.
If you talking about the sheffield or liverpool degree summer course, your chances of migrating there is zero.ZERO.
only choice you have is singapore.
if signapore, donttalk like you gonna be away for so long and all.

22 so young., STFU and go and experience life first, if you bo song me, come TBR and look for papajahats any day,
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Try go Australia, quite near also
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One thing for sure, your TARC degree won't help much yawn.gif

Unless you migrate when you are a highly sought after professional/ skilled worker (nurse/ engineer etc)

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I am a foreigner living in Malaysia.
3 years ago, graduated from college and can not find a suitable job at my country,and I decided to go.1st time, everything not as what i was expected.Like you're on your own with no direction home - like a complete unknown. Pity the poor immigrant!
and I think that homesickness often hits people in ways that surprise them.
Living in a new country may be a little bit different from your accustomed way of life and after the initial period featured by curiosity and enthusiasm, you may find yourself bewildered and uncomfortable.Many difficulties that you may experience.
But everything will be fine.

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so many discouraging comments here

my advice to TS is, just do it, the word 'migrate' might not be the right word for now, just go there and try your new life there

but first important thing is you need $, with a lot of $, your life will be a lot easier there, so be strong, don't be afraid to fall down.

As long as you are happy with your new life there, this is what define life.
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Really??? My cousin graduated from TRAC in Accounting(diploma). After working some 10 yrs in KL, he uprooted his family and migrated to OZ a few years ago. He is now working as an accountant. How??? Went back to school and took some courses, wrote the exams and start all over ...from the bottom. No difference from a relative who obtained his accounting degree from UK. Came back and worked in KL for several years and than uprooted his family and moved to OZ( in the 90's) Like my cousin, he too had to go back to school, took some courses and wrote the exams and started all over from the bottom


QUOTE(klein @ Oct 23 2012, 09:14 AM)
One thing for sure, your TARC degree won't help much yawn.gif

Unless you migrate when you are a highly sought after professional/ skilled worker (nurse/ engineer etc)
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Added on October 24, 2012, 4:30 am
Do you know immigration rules keep changing??? Every few years, gov't keep raising the bar. if you think it is tough trying to emigrate now, just wait . It will be tougher in the coming years. If one has the chance, grab it and stop procrastinating. All i have to do is looked at my relatives. Canada opened the immigration door back in the mid 80s.It was easy to emigrate back then.Of all the relatives that migrated to Canada, 2 had primary level 1 had LCE, 3 had MCE and 2 had uni level education. A few procastinate.... you know.too cold, got biz to run, this and that. By the time they were raedy to leave, Ottawa raised the bar because the rest of the world discoverd Canada How my lesser educated relatives made it to Canada?? Prasys hit it right on the nail

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Pergi je. Go work 1st, no need immigrate. Then if u really can fit in then apply pr lo
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If you go other countries, like Europe or other western country this will happen... I miss the food over Malaysia especially rice and the warm weather.... Plus u only 22 years old and still studying in TARC, come on I also kena b4 the problem that you are facing when I was in college... Ppl dislike bla bla bla, ignore them tats all.... Dun giv a shit about them... Try to work in M'sia then slowly build up ur financial and life... Then only u do wat u wanna do.... Btw I am from TARC also... XD
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Not easy to let go your home country??? What rubbish. It 's all in your mind
Me?? I wasn't born with a silverspoon in my mouth. My grades were just 'average'. Finished F5 and can't get into F6. Relatives in Canada sponsored me over. When that day came, just packed my bags  and  headed to the airport and that was it. The unspoken rule was I aint coming back until I got my degree. In Canada, I did my G12. Again, average grades. Applied to uni and had to wait till early Aug to I get my acceptance letter Cream of the crops get their choice while people like me were fillers. Took me 5 years to complete my degree. Why?? cvos i bombed my Calculus on my first attempt. Calculus was a prerequiste course for some of the courses. So it was 6 years beore I go home. When I got home I cannot tahan the heat and humidity. House has no air con.Only fans. Still remembers taking 6-7 baths a day just to cool down
Was very happy when that day came when I headed to the airport. Back to Canada
Currently working with company whose clients are oil/gas companies, pulp and paper companies, mining companies and petrochemical companies.  Coming back to Malaysia to work?? Forget it. I am just a BSc holder with average grade. I am sure Talent Corp consider me as a non talent. Despite the gov't taking some 25% of my paycheque, I am still better off financially. Car is cheap, gas is cheap. food is cheap, eating out is expensive but junk food is cheap ,electronic stuff are cheap etc. Eg Nissan Rogue AWD 2013 model is around $27k while gas is around $1.15/L, 10 pcs KFC plus medium fries is less than $21. Working and pay taxes,health care is taken care off. No need to buy expensive private insurance etc etc
My advise. if you thinking of migration, don't be sentimental. Cross the bridge and burn it
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I wonder, is it easy to get to Canada these days?
I only have like less than 1 year working experience. sad.gif
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depends on u actually, no matter where u are if u fail to live, u will still fail. i've met many ppl like ts, usually they're the one that are introvert. interviewing them shows that. (im not saying ts). sure, they can become dentist, engineers etc but if they still lack of competence, thats ur own problem.

furthermore, their policy on foreigner has been changed, HR's giving priority to locals in this recession. in USA alone, many ivy league grads struggling to get jobs.

just my 2cents, if u feel unsure, why dont u go there for 2-3 months and mix with them, so u'll sure what you should do. smile.gif
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Excuse me, since when TARC got offer Degree?
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you SHOULD go to Taiwan,

open some road-side stalk,

jual choo chiong fun or hotdog

live there awhile, if dont like there weather,

can move back to China mainland.
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TS is only 22 - your real life hasn't even begun yet.

Take it from me, I'm in the process of migrating to Oz, got my PR a few years ago, saved up loads in AUD and have a friends place to stay until I get a job - btw, I have 8 years working experience in a Oil & Gas company.

First of all, where are you going to migrate to? Oz and NZ is impossible for you b/c of new SkillSelect program - you have to have highly skilled work experience and be INVITED to apply for visa.

In OZ = no visa, no work.

Does TS have enough money saved up just to keep you running for few months w/o a job?
Does TS has relatives to stay whever you are going?

If mati2 wanna migrate, then look for job in SG then. You still would prob need some working experience.
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Go for it. I kinda want to as well but I know my limitations so I'm compromising and just making my life here as "foreign" as I can if that makes any sense. Hate your friends, make new ones from DIFFERENT places. Hate your govt, well you won't like it in other countries as well because you're not a citizen of said country. Plus it costs a bomb to migrate.

But, go for it anyway. Work for a while in another country. If you like it, stay smile.gif If you don't then come back with a whole new experience.
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Well, the first thing you need, is money. Lots of money. Starting a new life in foreign country is not easy. You need rent, food, deposits, this and that.
and the most important thing, a job. And getting one decent one wont be that easy.
But i think the most important thing is that whether that country you are migrating to have a demand on people like you. For example, lots of American moved to Korea to be English teachers because Korea have a large demand of native English speakers.

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QUOTE(Mazdasaga @ Oct 10 2012, 02:51 AM)
Im 22 now and 5 more months to complete my degree in TARC.

Im bored with my social life here, indeed, the government aswell... I feel like put down everything here and leave for another country and have a restart of my life. Making new friends, new environment, and find my ownself and so on.

For those who migrate, i know is not easy to let go your home country, but still u made it right?? I wanna ask about how's life migrating to other country, how ur heart feels towards leaving ur family which will only meet them once a while. How how and how.

Please give me some opinion and advice, i would really cherish every single of you. =)
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I tell you ah, migration is not easy also. Even in other country also kena discrimination.

Like I got one friend who migrated there. In malaysia, he is a big time manager earning a cool RM15k a month. Migrated to australia, they don't even count his malaysian work experience, pay him AUD45k a year. Some more he has to pay for rental AUD3k a month for a studio apartment (1 room) with his wife. At work place, the aussie lady boss scold him like hell. Damn stress. Then only the aussies get promoted but the asian PRs still work in low runk jobs. After 2 years, my friend came back to malaysia to stay for one year because his aussie dream is in shambles. He say after this one year, he will go back and try again.
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Why u bored of social life here? Social life in Malaysia is one of the most happening.

You go overseas at most OZ, NZ, Canada, UK all these place you go to bed at 9pm one u like?



QUOTE(Mazdasaga @ Oct 10 2012, 01:51 AM)
Im 22 now and 5 more months to complete my degree in TARC.

Im bored with my social life here, indeed, the government aswell... I feel like put down everything here and leave for another country and have a restart of my life. Making new friends, new environment, and find my ownself and so on.

For those who migrate, i know is not easy to let go your home country, but still u made it right?? I wanna ask about how's life migrating to other country, how ur heart feels towards leaving ur family which will only meet them once a while. How how and how.

Please give me some opinion and advice, i would really cherish every single of you. =)
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Added on November 15, 2012, 1:09 amif they can't stand people ignore him blah blah blah in Malaysia, how you think he will fair in overseas? Maybe the harsh treatment he'll get there will make him change? Or maybe destroy him? Fight or Fly.


QUOTE(benjie88 @ Oct 24 2012, 11:21 AM)
If you go other countries, like Europe or other western country this will happen... I miss the food over Malaysia especially rice and the warm weather.... Plus u only 22 years old and still studying in TARC, come on I also kena b4 the problem that you are facing when I was in college... Ppl dislike bla bla bla, ignore them tats all.... Dun giv a shit about them... Try to  work in M'sia then slowly build up ur financial and life... Then only u do wat u wanna do.... Btw I am from TARC also... XD
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Added on November 15, 2012, 1:09 amMost people migrate because they get paid better. All about money. At least for Malaysians.



QUOTE(EarendurFefalas @ Oct 10 2012, 02:23 AM)
Most people move into another country because of social injustice (read it on some graph fact) and second followed by working offshore.

If you hate Malaysia so much maybe can start the 2nd choice. Try to work in a different country (but I dont think this will be easy too >.<)
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I tell you ah, migration is not easy also. Even in other country also kena discrimination.

Like I got one friend who migrated there. In malaysia, he is a big time manager earning a cool RM15k a month. Migrated to australia, they don't even count his malaysian work experience, pay him AUD45k a year. Some more he has to pay for rental AUD3k a month for a studio apartment (1 room) with his wife. At work place, the aussie lady boss scold him like hell. Damn stress. Then only the aussies get promoted but the asian PRs still work in low runk jobs. After 2 years, my friend came back to malaysia to stay for one year because his aussie dream is in shambles. He say after this one year, he will go back and try again.
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Your friend situation is very common. Almost everyone I know that migrated to Aus and NZ also will go thru something similar. A few of them are lucky and get good jobs with good social circles but not all are able to.

Those who migrate will always mingle around with Malaysians even when they are overseas. Racism is everywhere, cannot avoid it.
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Agreed. Not all people are able to adapt and adjust. However, if there is a wil there is a way. I have met mgirants who came to NZ as rags, living in caravan, but they worked hard and made it and became successful. I even met Malaysian who came here illegally and worked so hard now he is his own boss as a contractor. Have overseas holiday every year to Europe, US etc. His children received good educations.

At least, there are no barriers for you to succeed, no quotas for you to jump. It is a level playing field. It is up to you whether you are determined to make it happened for yourself. Remember the fittest survives, no matter where you are.

The greatest risk in life is not taking one.
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why TS so quiet ...

i want to see his response.
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QUOTE(syafiqkhalid @ Nov 16 2012, 05:05 PM)
why TS so quiet ...

i want to see his response.
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Haha, im actually keep an eyehere, really thank you all for giving me advice and tell me some happenings, im really appriciate on all of your response =)
But from a post from papajahats,i think he needs a really change in attitude. Anyway, im still eager to see more and more advice =)

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Hi TS,

If you are my neighbour son, i would encourage you to try your luck
(at least he parent can now have a room for store)

I had once think the same sfter i grad. Its all a worthless crappy teenage thought for a quick solution over the life u see as boring.

When i was a teenager, i had a habit of abandoning the stuff im doing if i felt bored, too hard, not interesting. I was a lousy crappy student, but thank god i got some brain. I always pass at border line. I got into a depression phase, and have to take some medicne to get out from that #%&%## period.
During at that time i was thinking to quot from my degree. Lucky, i force myself and manage to get the scroll.

I start my first job, after few months, i hop to ahother job. After less than 2years, i felt working under people is boring. I quit and tried to sell insurance.

Then after 2 years, felt bored, then join back being an employee.i got married already before i join this company.

I travel quite afew places. And i would say the age, mariage and seeing other people especially in a country like india, indonesia where people are so desperate to earn a living, it make me really think everytime i have a thought to resign.
I am 5years being employed now.

But what i would sharw to you is the thought i had everytime i am thinking of leaving the thing i had just because i thought it's boring.

Just because i feel stressed with the thing i am going through, i am finding or creating a reason to sort of give myself the strength to explore something new eventhough. I dont care if its a dirty job, shitty job or what so ever, as long i can get out from the trouble i am facing st that time.

Thats really not how a man should face his life. When i lookback, i hve done the same so many time, it doesnt make me any good.
Marriage does make me think more wise before makinga bold move, seeimg other people who are unfortunate does also help and also u hv to involve with this society,it make u feel very much fortunate and love what u have now.

There are few woman who havecertificate to become teacher in indonesia, but they choose to come to malaysia and become a house maid. Theycome from middle income family,but just because they thought malaysia is a better place than theirs, they take that job and migrate.

If u are thinking to migrate, and just grab whatever job u could find, then thats a really really not a wise move. If u want for a job that can pay you well, now is also not a good time. Next year is going to be a tough financial year. Unemployment rate will escalate when the economy growth is going down. U can read the country forecast, u can see where they are heading.

U might end up sleeping on the street unemployed. But if u are willing to take the job with small pay, u might be able toget a job.
Same like in malaysia., those indonesian can hv a jib in construction or plantation or factory bcos the local is not interesred. But u are immigran in their country, nobody know you. U dont haveto feel shame to work as agarbage collector.

If u dare to work as a garbage collector, i would recommend you to work in malaysia. I just love malaysia. Owh the food is just awesome

Thats just an exaggerate example. But yeah,if u feel that you are still youmg anddont mindto waste your next 5 years for this valuable experiene, then why not. It might work for you.
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Take it from me it isn't easy. There will be days when you just drop to your knees, swear at the Almighty and cry your heart out. Some days will get so hard you just want to lay in bed. And there will be many of those days.

I'm not sure you're the type that has commitment. But if you can be the type that sees things through, that takes a step forward regardless of adversity and a very thick skull. You'll do just fine here. Or anywhere else for that matter. Hell, if you have that mean streak that tell you to never give up, you could be dropped into Congo and come out a millionaire in 5 years.

If you want to migrate, be sure you have the attitude.
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Not easy to let go your home country??? What rubbish. It 's all in your mind
Me?? I wasn't born with a silverspoon in my mouth. My grades were just 'average'. Finished F5 and can't get into F6. Relatives in Canada sponsored me over. When that day came, just packed my bags  and  headed to the airport and that was it. The unspoken rule was I aint coming back until I got my degree. In Canada, I did my G12. Again, average grades. Applied to uni and had to wait till early Aug to I get my acceptance letter Cream of the crops get their choice while people like me were fillers. Took me 5 years to complete my degree. Why?? cvos i bombed my Calculus on my first attempt. Calculus was a prerequiste course for some of the courses. So it was 6 years beore I go home. When I got home I cannot tahan the heat and humidity. House has no air con.Only fans. Still remembers taking 6-7 baths a day just to cool down
Was very happy when that day came when I headed to the airport. Back to Canada
Currently working with company whose clients are oil/gas companies, pulp and paper companies, mining companies and petrochemical companies.  Coming back to Malaysia to work?? Forget it. I am just a BSc holder with average grade. I am sure Talent Corp consider me as a non talent. Despite the gov't taking some 25% of my paycheque, I am still better off financially. Car is cheap, gas is cheap. food is cheap, eating out is expensive but junk food is cheap ,electronic stuff are cheap etc. Eg Nissan Rogue AWD 2013 model is around $27k while gas is around $1.15/L, 10 pcs KFC plus medium fries is less than $21. Working and pay taxes,health care is taken care off. No need to buy expensive private insurance etc etc
My advise. if you thinking of migration, don't be sentimental. Cross the bridge and burn it
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haha.. would like to ask TS, who iron your shirts, do your laundry and serve hot food to you like u r the king

i sure TS cannot let go off being mama's boy
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I was studying in NZ for 5 years, got my PR after I graduated but couldnt find a job. So went back to MY to work for 1 year then moved to SG. My advice, work in MY first, financial stable then decide to move later
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haha.. would like to ask TS, who iron your shirts, do your laundry and serve hot food to you like u r the king

i sure TS cannot let go off being mama's boy
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So far im staying at hostel. So yea, all done my self except food i eat outside (duno how to cook) . Sometimes just go back home town 2 weeks once to see my mum. LOL
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I was studying in NZ for 5 years, got my PR after I graduated but couldnt find a job. So went back to MY to work for 1 year then moved to SG. My advice, work in MY first, financial stable then decide to move later
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Do you automatically get PR after 5 years in NZ even though it's for education purpose??

In the UK, residence for education purpose doesn't count towards getting permanent residency. sad.gif
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well, as for my opinion, if u holds tarc degree, yes most of the places recognize the certificate and it shouldnt be a problem for u getting a job overseas(what matter is how much the job pays u?). For me, im going to UK on January to get my degree for one year..I been there for holiday, even been to china, australia. Main problem im facing, is with food, well u think in overseas u can have rice?or u think u can have the kind of taste u eat here?NO..in UK, people eat fast foods, even if u eat their chinatown rice, u will feel awkwardly different. In China, yes they eat rice, but the taste totally different, it doesnt suit us at all what more to say about Australia?How about weather?Went to UK 9 day holiday my skin dry like hell..yes u can adapt overtime. but malaysia will always be the place that u were born and raise n ur root are here. I hate how to government treat us, but i love my country. THis is where i born.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Nov 17 2012, 07:58 AM)
Take it from me it isn't easy. There will be days when you just drop to your knees, swear at the Almighty and cry your heart out. Some days will get so hard you just want to lay in bed. And there will be many of those days.

I'm not sure you're the type that has commitment. But if you can be the type that sees things through, that takes a step forward regardless of adversity and a very thick skull. You'll do just fine here. Or anywhere else for that matter. Hell, if you have that mean streak that tell you to never give up, you could be dropped into Congo and come out a millionaire in 5 years.

If you want to migrate, be sure you have the attitude.
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Agreed 110% !!!! Sometimes people think going overseas to study/live is like vacation but they dont see the down days. You just described my down days to the T ! There will be times where you wonder WTH are you doing so far from home. Some days you just want to lock yourself in your room, put on emo music and just be emo. So yeah, make sure your are ready mentally as well.

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Do you automatically get PR after 5 years in NZ even though it's for education purpose??

In the UK, residence for education purpose doesn't count towards getting permanent residency. sad.gif
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I dont know about NZ but for UK since this years imigration changes, education visa i.e. Tier 4's can cout towards PR-ship. Its 10 years for a mixture of education and work visa but if you get like a Tier 1 (last time) or Tier 2 (now) for 5 years for more, you can start to apply for PR already.


QUOTE(youloke @ Nov 17 2012, 09:54 PM)
well, as for my opinion, if u holds tarc degree, yes most of the places recognize the certificate and it shouldnt be a problem for u getting a job overseas(what matter is how much the job pays u?). For me, im going to UK on January to get my degree for one year..I been there for holiday, even been to china, australia. Main problem im facing, is with food, well u think in overseas u can have rice?or u think u can have the kind of taste u eat here?NO..in UK, people eat fast foods, even if u eat their chinatown rice, u will feel awkwardly different. In China, yes they eat rice, but the taste totally different, it doesnt suit us at all what more to say about Australia?How about weather?Went to UK 9 day holiday my skin dry like hell..yes u can adapt overtime. but malaysia will always be the place that u were born and raise n ur root are here. I hate how to government treat us, but i love my country. THis is where i born.
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I beg to differ. I have been studying and living in the UK for 3+ years now. And I can swear chinese food here taste so much better than make home is Malaysia, this is because the chefs are from China or HK so the receipes are authenthic. Msia dim sum cannot fight UK dim sum, even those in Msian highclass hotel only can par with UK dim sum. Also there are alot of Msian food here, nowadays can easily get. Of course for the more rare stuff like panda leaf, belacan etc. have to go to asian grocer but stuff like Milo, tom yam paste all big super markets like Tesco, Sainburys, Waitrose M&S all also have already.
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Times are bad now, so pls think long and hard.
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QUOTE(youloke @ Nov 17 2012, 09:54 PM)
well, as for my opinion, if u holds tarc degree, yes most of the places recognize the certificate and it shouldnt be a problem for u getting a job overseas(what matter is how much the job pays u?). For me, im going to UK on January to get my degree for one year..I been there for holiday, even been to china, australia. Main problem im facing, is with food, well u think in overseas u can have rice?or u think u can have the kind of taste u eat here?NO..in UK, people eat fast foods, even if u eat their chinatown rice, u will feel awkwardly different. In China, yes they eat rice, but the taste totally different, it doesnt suit us at all what more to say about Australia?How about weather?Went to UK 9 day holiday my skin dry like hell..yes u can adapt overtime. but malaysia will always be the place that u were born and raise n ur root are here. I hate how to government treat us, but i love my country. THis is where i born.
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Actually, in Australia and NZ - most people can't find a job even with very good education qualification. The most common reason is because they "do not have local experience". Even senior ppl that migrate there have a hard time finding jobs. It may be easier if you have an Australian or NZ qualification but then again, I also know ppl who already has PR there, lived there and graduated there yet can't find jobs there. Believe our fellow member ineser here also experience the same thing.

As for food, I've been traveling to many parts of the world and I can say that food is not really a big problem at all. Almost everywhere you'll find a "China Town" no matter how small it is. Could even find Malaysian Satay in some small town in Europe. If you go to Australia, you see Malaysians almost everywhere and restaurants that sell all sorts of Asian food everywhere. The supermarket overseas do sell rice, of course more expensive but still got. In NZ (and I'm sure many other countries as well), there are huge chain supermarkets run by Chinese that sell all sorts of Chinese and Asian stuff even frozen pandan leaf, durian and so on. You wanna make ba zhang, just go to the shop and they can bring out all the ingredients you need to make it for you. Of course we will always miss Malaysian food but to many, it's not a problem at all. smile.gif

Weather definitely will be changes. Can one adapt to a 4 season country? How bout snow? It's a hassle when the country has snow too.

I disagree with your other points but I agree with your last. I still prefer to live in Malaysia. wink.gif
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Actually, in Australia and NZ - most people can't find a job even with very good education qualification. The most common reason is because they "do not have local experience". Even senior ppl that migrate there have a hard time finding jobs. It may be easier if you have an Australian or NZ qualification but then again, I also know ppl who already has PR there, lived there and graduated there yet can't find jobs there. Believe our fellow member ineser here also experience the same thing.

As for food, I've been traveling to many parts of the world and I can say that food is not really a big problem at all. Almost everywhere you'll find a "China Town" no matter how small it is. Could even find Malaysian Satay in some small town in Europe. If you go to Australia, you see Malaysians almost everywhere and restaurants that sell all sorts of Asian food everywhere. The supermarket overseas do sell rice, of course more expensive but still got. In NZ (and I'm sure many other countries as well), there are huge chain supermarkets run by Chinese that sell all sorts of Chinese and Asian stuff even frozen pandan leaf, durian and so on. You wanna make ba zhang, just go to the shop and they can bring out all the ingredients you need to make it for you. Of course we will always miss Malaysian food but to many, it's not a problem at all. smile.gif

Weather definitely will be changes. Can one adapt to a 4 season country? How bout snow? It's a hassle when the country has snow too.

I disagree with your other points but I agree with your last. I still prefer to live in Malaysia. wink.gif
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different people have different experience. The key thing to job search is positive attitude. I have a migrant friend who was a GM level, has no NZ experience, he found job within 2 months. He found his job through networking not through applying jobs in the internet, recruitment agency or newspaper.

Another migrant friend who moved over about 3 months, also a very senior IT personnel, no NZ experience, not NZ graduate, though he hasn't got a job, he had very good interviews with big companies, and he is very positive. I am very confident he is about to get a contract job for at least NZ$75 an hour, the recruitment agency just confirmed verbally last friday.

So you see, whatever you do is about your attitude. No one owes you a living, you have to have a very positive outlook. If you are negative, this will reflect on your expression and body language when you go for interview.

Migration is a big decision, and it is not for everyone. If you have decided this is the move for you, by hooks or by crooks, you have to make it happened for you.

Learn from the best, ignored the rest. Learn from those who had succeeded and benchmark against them.





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QUOTE(youloke @ Nov 17 2012, 09:54 PM)
well, as for my opinion, if u holds tarc degree, yes most of the places recognize the certificate and it shouldnt be a problem for u getting a job overseas(what matter is how much the job pays u?). For me, im going to UK on January to get my degree for one year..I been there for holiday, even been to china, australia. Main problem im facing, is with food, well u think in overseas u can have rice?or u think u can have the kind of taste u eat here?NO..in UK, people eat fast foods, even if u eat their chinatown rice, u will feel awkwardly different. In China, yes they eat rice, but the taste totally different, it doesnt suit us at all what more to say about Australia?How about weather?Went to UK 9 day holiday my skin dry like hell..yes u can adapt overtime. but malaysia will always be the place that u were born and raise n ur root are here. I hate how to government treat us, but i love my country. THis is where i born.
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Rice is abundant in the UK.

And DIY - do it yourself please!!

Food wise, I think London has more to offer. They might not have the same food as typical Malaysian food, but there are alternatives.

QUOTE(defuser @ Nov 18 2012, 12:14 AM)
Agreed 110% !!!! Sometimes people think going overseas to study/live is like vacation but they dont see the down days. You just described my down days to the T ! There will be times where you wonder WTH are you doing so far from home. Some days you just want to lock yourself in your room, put on emo music and just be emo. So yeah, make sure your are ready mentally as well.
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It varies from person to person.

For me, there has not been a single day that I thought "WTH are you doing so far from home." I love staying here, everytime I walk through the city, I get reminded of how lucky I am to be here. My only nightmare is one day my parents might ask me to move back, which I most certainly hate to. I can only stay in Malaysia as a short term tourist, like 2 weeks max. If I go back to visit parents, ideal time frame is 10 days. I don't want to stay any longer.

It's just me.

QUOTE(larrykiwi @ Nov 18 2012, 03:35 PM)
No you can't get PR by just studying. If you enrol fulltime for a course recognised by NZQA for at least 1 year. You can get 1 year job search work permit after your study. If you can get a job within that 1 year and if the job entitles  you to have 2 years work permit, you can apply for PR after two years working.

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Thanks for the info. I thought it's the same like in Australia. I think in Australia permit for educational purposes are counted towards PR.

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QUOTE(larrykiwi @ Nov 18 2012, 03:35 PM)
different people have different experience. The key thing to job search is positive attitude. I have a migrant friend who was a GM level, has no NZ experience, he found job within 2 months. He found his job through networking not through applying jobs in the internet, recruitment agency or newspaper.

Another migrant friend who moved over about 3 months, also a very senior IT personnel, no NZ experience, not NZ graduate, though he hasn't got a job, he had very good interviews with big companies, and he is very positive. I am very confident he is about to get a contract job for at least NZ$75 an hour, the recruitment agency just confirmed verbally last friday.

So you see, whatever you do is about your attitude. No one owes you a living,  you have to have a very positive outlook. If you are negative, this will reflect on your expression and body language when you go for interview.

Migration is a big decision, and it is not for everyone. If you have decided this is the move for you, by hooks or by crooks, you have to make it happened for you.

Learn from the best, ignored the rest. Learn from those who had succeeded and benchmark against them.
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Yes different people will definitely have different experiences. There are those who are lucky and get good jobs like you and your other friends but not everyone is able to get a decent job. I'm not saying that getting a job overseas is impossible, it's just not as easy as some people think it is.

Again, migration is not for everyone and if TS or anyone else in this matter, plans to migrate, they should be aware of the possible situations that they may face but still hope for the best. The last thing one will want to experience is to sell off everything in Malaysia, go overseas, can't find a job for months/years and is not living a comfortable life as they imagine it to be. They should be prepared and make sure that they have enough savings for their expenses if they can't find a job immediately after moving there.
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Do you automatically get PR after 5 years in NZ even though it's for education purpose??

In the UK, residence for education purpose doesn't count towards getting permanent residency. sad.gif
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Oh cause I got Electrical Engineering degree which gave me bonus points to apply for PR even without any work experience.
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Oh cause I got Electrical Engineering degree which gave me bonus points to apply for PR even without any work experience.
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May I ask, which year was this?
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Do plenty of research first and foremost. Like which country, which city offer best opportunities based on you standing. There are so many online forums you can join and discuss before making the plunge. If you don't plan, you plan to fail. Budget at least six months, i.e. rental, makan, transport, a bit of entertainment, utilities, etc. Do it when you are young not like me when I had family with two children! Less commitment, easier to make decisions and financially less burden too.
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May I ask, which year was this?
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