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post Mar 26 2013, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(alyaakhairudin @ Mar 25 2013, 07:45 PM)
Yes it's me again. I want to apply for scholarship from Embassy of Japan. But I've never heard of the program and none of my senior ever received it. I try to search for Japan Universities for Pharmacy certified by Malaysia and I can't find any. It's a bit unusual to to do Pharmacy in Japan isn't it? I mean, never heard of it and people usually do pharmacy in UK as far as I know. Any opinion?

p/s: the scholarship from the embassy offer from Law course to engineering to pharmacy. I mean they offer for so many courses and there's no specific elaboration of the courses so I had to ask here for opinions.
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It's a great idea if you plan to work in Japan afterwards. Nobody goes to Japan, because 1, thr entire syllabUS will be in Japanese and graduates will have a hard time coming back to malaysia to practice. 2 the duration for the course is really long, 6 years. Not many can endure it. At the end of the day u will also have to sit for many national exams before u can graduate successdIly.

QUOTE(AP.L @ Mar 26 2013, 12:21 AM)
The tuition fee has been increased long time ago.
I've collected the tuition fees from some universities. biggrin.gif
However, I don't think the tuition fee for Liverpool John Moores Uni is 9000 pounds but I can't find the international tuition fee.  rclxub.gif

all the tuition fee are in pounds, per annum, the amount that international students need to pay.
Perhaps zstan can edit it @first post ?
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Thanks bro. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 26 2013, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(alyaakhairudin @ Mar 26 2013, 09:35 AM)
Oh really? Wow that's going to be hard I guess. And if I were to be back to Malaysia eventhough I worked there, it will be hard right... Thank you so much for the information!
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I think you should worry more about whether can you master university level Japanese and able to graduate successfully before worrying about whether you can cope with the working environment back in Malaysia.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 26 2013, 11:20 AM)
Unfortunately for msian based Pharmacists, doctors are allowed to dispense medicines.................
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So what's your point?
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post Mar 26 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 26 2013, 02:20 PM)
Meaning less scope or opportunities for pharmacists since doctors are allowed to dispense.
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Oh really? biggrin.gif so what are the scopes of the pharmacist that you know of? Besides dispensing.
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post Mar 26 2013, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 26 2013, 03:11 PM)
Isnt it Obvious that when one scope has been assumed by some other profession, your opportunities is lessen
by it?    biggrin.gif

YOU WROTE:

A doctor will diagnose(a disease) and prescribe medicine for patients. A pharmacist dispenses medicine to patients.
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true. but there are so many other sectors that a pharmacist can venture into besides dispensing.
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post Mar 29 2013, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(sheet78 @ Mar 27 2013, 11:16 PM)
ermm.guys.i need some help here.i'm kind of interested in taking pharmacy.just a few questions to ask.hope you guys can answer  sweat.gif oh and btw i'm 2012 SPM leaver
1. any idea of scholarships that i can apply?
2. if possible i want to attend foundation before pursuing the bachelor. is there any oversea university that offer pharmacy course to malaysians students? cause nowadays it's hard to find scholarship that send students with pharmacy course  rclxub.gif
thanks in advance notworthy.gif
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1.only feasible scholarships would be JPA
2. most probably no. foundation courses are usually not recognised overseas

QUOTE(jerk @ Mar 28 2013, 12:11 AM)
it is true a bpharm brings a lot of opportunities other than the conventional dispensing role eg. working for a pharmaceutical company, involve in creating government health policies, consultant pharmacist, but realistically, most graduates end up being in a hospital or community pharmacy. Thus, i dont see the point of arguing otherwise.

@prophetjul
are you thinking about doing a bpharm?
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if you are working in a hospital, then dispensing rights will not be your concern anyway. no?

QUOTE(assymessy @ Mar 28 2013, 11:51 PM)
Waaaa...

I really hope I can further my studies in Pharmacy or Pharmacology in Kyoto Univ.

For now what should I do  ? biggrin.gif
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master your japanese? if that is really your intention
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post Mar 31 2013, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(VilaFrantez @ Mar 31 2013, 07:27 PM)
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So, Japan is the right place to study pharmacology? How and why so? I always thought that western countries are better in medical science.

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what did you mean by "most probably no foundation courses are usually not recognised by overseas"? Speaking about local foundation college, as in KPM Matriculation, the programmes are recognized by a number of UK's universities (for instance, Bristol and Reading). You could apply via UCAS. For university-based foundation (UiTM Puncak Alam, Tamhidi USIM, Asasi UIA), I don't know. Sorry.

Planning for oversea?
= For a safe route, take A-level. To add the sense of being an extremist? Enter IB.

\^0^/

p/s: correct me if I'm wrong. I'm trying to be excellent with everyone smile.gif
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For a pharmacy degree I'm pretty sure it's not accepted. It's just not going to prepare you well enough for the actual degree. Correct me if i'm wrong too.
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post Mar 31 2013, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(focustime @ Mar 31 2013, 11:22 PM)
Hi

I would like to know, will I be able to pursue a degree in pharmacy if I didn't take Biology for SPM and I'm also planning on taking matriculation or Asasi Sains Fizikal for the pre-u.

Just to be clear, I was one those kids who didn't really know what they're doing when applying for their SPM subjects :T

But now I know.... So help me sad.gif
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Nope. You must take all 3 sciences if you plan to take matriculation. or asasi sains. its stated in the first post. and no private college will accept you to do Pre-U biology since you do not have SPM biology.
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QUOTE(focustime @ Apr 1 2013, 06:49 AM)
Oh, I see. But is it possible if I take Asasi Sains Fizikal and after finishing that, I change to a degree in pharmacy?  hmm.gif
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i don't think you can enter asasi sains if you don't have 3 sciences in your SPM. but you can have a try.
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post Apr 3 2013, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(focustime @ Apr 2 2013, 09:00 PM)
Oh, I can apply for asasi sains fizikal because it doesn't have biology in it. Only physics and chemistry.

I really want to be a pharmacist  icon_question.gif
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If you don't have biology for SPM and foundation it's even impossible to get into a Pharmacy course in Malaysia... you may try to get into some indonesian/russian/middle eastern universities which do not care but when you come back to Malaysia to work you might just not get a job.. its a big risk but no doubt you can go ahead and try. It's just a pity that you did not receive better advises after your PMR.

QUOTE(yellowpika @ Apr 2 2013, 10:54 PM)
You should just do form 6/a levels/sam and take biology.. at least that's what I'm planning to do. hmm.gif

Because I've read from one of the post that there's someone who managed to take biology in sam without taking biology as a subject in SPM.
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getting into Pre-U is one thing... getting into a pharmacy degree is another thing... and whether the government recognises your degree to allow you to get registered is also another thing... good luck smile.gif
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QUOTE(Farmer_C @ Apr 3 2013, 06:04 PM)
In the Malaysian hospital setting, do pharmacists have the opportunity to 'specialise' eg. become cardiology pharmacists/infectious diseases pharmacists/ICU pharmacists/oncology pharmacists etc. ?
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Yes they do. There are papers you can sit for to boost your credentials but this doesn't translate into better pay though.
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QUOTE(Farmer_C @ Apr 5 2013, 03:46 PM)
I'm gonna assume that pharmacists do patrol the wards and check drug charts in Malaysia... do pharmacists stay and 'specialise' in a certain ward on request (perhaps after they've done their rotations in every ward), meaning specialising without exams but through experience?
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yes. that's why it's not mandatory to have a masters in clinical pharmacy/equivalent qualifications to be appointed as a clinical pharmacist. you can get there with enough years of experience.

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QUOTE(..lampz @ Apr 16 2013, 05:28 PM)
Is it a MUST for me to take Biology for my pre-u? And can I apply to IMU or Monash using forecast results? From what I checked their intake dates are Jan(MPharm) and Feb (BPharm) respectively.
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its not a requirement but it will be helpful.. not sure about IMU but Monash wont accept forecast results. more info can be found on page 1
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QUOTE(Decky @ Apr 16 2013, 10:58 PM)
Got shortlisted for MPharm interview. Any ideas of how I should prepare?

The interview is smack in the middle of my finals. Not the best of timings but since my syllabus covers organic nitrogen compounds, arenes, some drugs, and since I'm a bio student I "should" know quite abit about amino acids and protein synthesis as well.

Anything I should read up on other than academic stuff?
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probably think about why you want to be a pharmacist i guess. dont think they will ask much academic related stuff
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QUOTE(arthurw @ Apr 18 2013, 02:12 AM)
Hi guys, I'll be going to stpm next month. Will pharmacist be real saturated by the year of 2020? From what I counted ( duration of stpm, Bpharm course, and gov service), I think I’ll be graduating around that year. So any ideas? Is there a possibility that I will be jobless upon graduating?
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if you are good you will always have a job no matter how saturated the market is. not that i am implying the market will be saturated though.
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QUOTE(IamJsLim @ Apr 20 2013, 09:44 PM)
Hello people!
BPharm studet from IMU here.  rclxm9.gif
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welcome! which year are you in? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(happinessof11 @ Apr 20 2013, 10:13 PM)
Hi. I'm interested in pursuing pharmacy study.
Soon i will be taking CAL in July.

Is it very difficult to get an overseas scholarship for degree of pharmacy ?
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yes. it's almost non-existent.
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QUOTE(keimieko @ Apr 21 2013, 07:38 PM)
I think nottingham offers foundation in science that requires a minimum of 5 Bs in academic subjects, including mathematics and ONE science subject, excluding religious studies, moral studies and languages. So do you think we who doesn't have 3 sciences in SPM can take this ? Does science, only science count as science? lol @ my question.
http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Study/Undergr...in-Science.aspx
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no your science subject in SPM doesn't count..

if you read the T&C from the board of pharmacy..it is stated that if you do a foundation in science, you MUST have all 3 sciences and score at least B for SPM.

http://www.pharmacy.gov.my/v2/ms/entri/sya...ajar-tahun.html


so yeah.. you can enter the foundation course.. but you can't enter the pharmacy degree..
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post Apr 21 2013, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(keimieko @ Apr 21 2013, 08:50 PM)
so... it means, can enter foundation course but then can't further study in pharmacy degree..  cry.gif
anyway, thanks for your help!  notworthy.gif
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yeah.. your only option is to do A-levels or STPM and work hard. really hard. all the best. smile.gif
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QUOTE(keimieko @ Apr 21 2013, 10:03 PM)
So A-levels also requires 3 science subjects too for science stream?  doh.gif
Then the only answer for me to enter pharmacy is STPM?  doh.gif
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actually to be honest your chances of do pharmacy is really really slim now.. maybe you can try to think of other careers? unless you can find a uni which accepts you to do A-levels or STPM without 3 sciences in SPM... sad.gif
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QUOTE(keimieko @ Apr 21 2013, 11:07 PM)
Oh phew  sweat.gif
I thought all can accept me to do A-levels in their uni even I don't have 3 sciences in SPM ? because I checked taylor and they say SPM, O Levels or equivalent - 5 credits including English and Mathematics / Science. Subject pre-requisites apply. Am I wrong??  rclxub.gif  Sorry many questions.
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if you do not have the necessary SPM background.. many colleges may be reluctant to take you in.. in fear that you may screw up and bring down their reputation. without SPM pure science you will really struggle in A-levels science stream..
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QUOTE(AP.L @ Apr 24 2013, 10:25 PM)
i would like to know and understand more about what do pharmacies do in hospital.
Are they sittin' in the counter and dispensing those drugs prescribed by doctor?
and for those pharmacies who didn't need to do ward round and work at those common diseases ( eg cough,flu,fever) department, wouldn't they feel bored for their job as they just dispense more or less same drugs everyday ?
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that depends which department are you in..if you are in the outpatient then your main job would be dispensing and counselling .. and also double check whether the doctor has prescribed a suitable prescription or not.. you are also in charge of stock checks.. supervising pharmacy technicians.. etc..

there are no 'common diseases' department.. only outpatient and clinical pharmacy/inpatient pharmacy for different departments.

some may feel bored.. but some may prefer a routine job..

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