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stfsoelyn
post Jul 3 2015, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(mel5582 @ Jul 1 2015, 10:16 PM)
Haha KF has one too.. but I was referring to another friend.. he got his gears from KF as well.
As for Baratza/Mahlkonig being a PITA to maintain.. I never had any issues with the Vario. It even almost tempted me to go with the Baratza Forte at one point, but decided to scrap the idea for something else instead. If you're looking to go with the Compak K3, seriously, go for it. It's definitely worth the upgrade.
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Greetings to all,

May you gurus enlighten us on the ballpark local prices for these grinders? K3, Vario, M4, etc. Would we lesser mortals be very disadvantaged if we were to go for a Pl53 or Macap M2? Or even Eureka Mignon?
Thanks.

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Peter
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post Jul 4 2015, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(mel5582 @ Jul 3 2015, 08:39 PM)
Depends on the type of coffee you drink. Vario, K3, and Macap are all from RM2.3k onwards. Not too sure about the Macap as I know, their grinders are along the same range as Mazzers. So maybe from RM3k onwards.. But maybe the M2 might be cheaper.

Please avoid the Mignon.. It's not a bad grinder, but because of the mess it produces while grinding. Previously the price of the Mignon is around RM1.6k, not sure how much it's selling for now..
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Thanks, Mel

Forgot to mention, I'm trying to get into espresso. Was about to pull the trigger on the Lelit or Mignon, since they had "palatable" prices! (Mignon about 1.7k now). Guess it's really a case of "no pain, no gain", huh? The pain of parting with a chunk of cash, that is.

I couldn't find any local retailers who carry M2, but aboutespresso.com quotes 312 Euros, excluding shipping, but I'm a bit leery of buying from so far.

Regards,
Peter


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post Jul 4 2015, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jul 4 2015, 10:46 AM)
So I finally got my Compak K3 Touch (Ferarri Red) to pair with the Oscar + OPV.

Some thoughts:
-Grinds very fine and consistently. Clumpiness still persist at very fine grinds but not as bad as lower end models. If you already have an efficient WDT sequence, clumpiness is never an issue to begin with. I try not to use the WDT with the K3 unless necessary. So far so good.
-Moderately difficult to know where your grind size is when you first get it. After you get it then the stepless adjustment makes sense.
-Documentation is horrible and shite. Read the manual but use your head as well.
-Timer is awesome. It's in front and adjusting it is easy peasy.
-The PF holder isn't very ergonomical for my naked PF, but otherwise gets the job done.
-Plastic top cap cover is a let down. Some aesthetic defects. Cross threading with the safety screw happened by default. Won't even grind fine enough if I leave the safety screw in tact. Does wonder if they calibrated the thing properly in factory.

Once you get the grind size calibration right, does produce good shots. smile.gif
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Congrats, LittleGhost!

Do you mean you need to remove or modify the safety screw to get a fine enought grind?
Does it make a lot of difference in the cup, compared to the Grinta?
Mind sharing why you chose Touch over Push?

Regards,
Peter

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post Jul 4 2015, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jul 4 2015, 02:13 PM)
The safety screw has to be removed otherwise you can't get it fine enough.

The Grinta, despite its limitations is still in my opinion an excellent and well designed grinder. Simply because it is fool proof and so easy to use for any form of beginners.

The K3 definitely provides a much better extraction in comparison. (the price is also at least double of the grinta ><) You can observe this by tasting it (much more complex taste) and visually "see" it (through the naked portafilter).

I didn't even do the WDT with the K3. One thing that still irks me is that it doesn't fit with my naked portafilter. I have to transfer it to a small cup first before pouring it in.

I didn't get the Push because I was too lazy to go the extra mile to track down anything else. Touch was available hence touch it is.
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Thanks for your clear explanation. I suppose every machine has it's own quirks, no matter the make?
Enjoy your machines and coffee!


stfsoelyn
post Jul 4 2015, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(mel5582 @ Jul 4 2015, 05:46 PM)
No worries.. If you're getting a grinder, especially an electronic one, best to look around locally.
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Thanks for your advice, is it ok if you suggest any local outfits selling, say, Compak or Macap?
Only if it's within forum rules, of course.

Regards,
Peter
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post Jul 4 2015, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jul 4 2015, 05:16 PM)
A pictar of my current setup

Excuse the mess obviously tongue.gif
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Vow! Great machines! I'm drooling already.
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post Jul 5 2015, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(mel5582 @ Jul 5 2015, 08:36 AM)
Yeah, please let me know. I had to go a few notches finer when changed back to the initial beans.
Hey Peter, try calling the guys here:
http://www.classiccoffeeandbeverage.com.my...tional-presence

They advertised the M4 on their page, maybe perhaps they could bring in the M2. Man.. Previously I wanted to get a Macap, but no distributor locally.. Big poison now.. I'd choose a Macap over a Mazzer any day.
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Thanks for the link. They're a bit mysterious about their prices: "M4 is below 3K" was all they would say. "Come visit us". Their M4 seems to be doser version. Aren't home users supposed to abhor dosers? Waste of coffee, it seems. Anyways, will have to visit sometime.

From all my reading, I thought Mazzer had a better reputation than Macap? Maybe I'm mistaken.

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Peter
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post Jul 8 2015, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 8 2015, 10:42 AM)
Why doser is a waste of coffee?
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Hi, patryn33

That was the impression i got from the reviews that I read, cos on some of them, you need to fill the whole doser with grinds before you can dose your single or double shot. For us who make one or two drinks, that would waste the rest of the doser contents.

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Peter

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post Jul 8 2015, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 8 2015, 09:43 PM)
You don't have to fill the doser to dose, when it grinds just keep pulling the lever till you get the right amount of coffee. Yes each pull only gets u a little coffee and you may have to pull 30-50 times. End of each shot you grind doser is always empty
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Thanks for the great tip - didn't know you could do that. That considerably widens the choices of available grinders.

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post Jul 23 2015, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(mel5582 @ Jul 23 2015, 09:43 PM)
Haha.. I drink 2 in the mornings, then pack 2 for the day in my tumbler.. and when I'm back home, another 2 biggrin.gif

I usually have long blacks in the afternoon. Milk based sometimes.. but mostly espressos.

1 latte a day keeps the doctor away biggrin.gif
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I'm so envious! If I drank that much, I'd be staring at the ceiling "All Night Long" (L. Richie)...

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post Aug 12 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Tikietic @ Aug 12 2015, 04:06 PM)
man.. if you don't like it bright/acid/fruity... antipodean is definitely your siiizzt there, bro.. laugh.gif
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Maybe I'm too calculative, but I also like the fact that you get a free cuppa with each bag of beans you buy! Great value.
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post Oct 8 2015, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 7 2015, 10:04 PM)
Was at tan & tan, grab a bag each from antipodean, Sumatra mahdehling village & lintong...

Mahdheling predominantly coco and dark bitter chocolate, woody, minimal to none floral, some fruity flavor...looks like fc+ medium dark roast. A bit difficult to dial in. Fluffy grind.

Lintong predominantly nutty...very nutty flavour, more floral and fruit, smells nicer than mahdehling...looks like fc medium roast. Less fluffy but easy to dial in. More creama.

cheapest beans I have tried. Will check out the rest.. .
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Is it me or the grinder/coffee machine? The first thing that the Mandheling hit me with was VERY high acidity? Chocolate, yes, but I'm afraid my coarse tongue is not cultured enough to catch those other flavors.

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post Oct 8 2015, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Oct 8 2015, 10:17 AM)
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where to buy this?
saw this on lazada Rm27 but shipment from oversea

bad experience with lazada if shipment from oversea  hmm.gif
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I've bought from Lazada several times, and they were always quite professional, but kindly inform what's the problem with overseas items? I'm planning to order a couple of items that need to be shipped from abroad. Thanks
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post Oct 8 2015, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Oct 8 2015, 01:02 PM)
> coarse tongue is not cultured...

All things equal, tastes is mostly subjective and if it tastes like shit then IT IS shit. (if you've done all the tweakings to your fullest...)

I had "connoisseurs" telling me one coffee is good but in reality tasted like shite. Some of these wankers are even "barista trainers" IRL.

Try the Matt Perger method to tweak your coffee. If it's still bad, then drop the beans.
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Thanks very much for your sensible advice, xiao gui!

Now I am going to look up Matt Perger....


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post Oct 9 2015, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 8 2015, 10:36 PM)
you mean sour? first sip have some minor zing, the rest I found to be mildly sweet.

i find this bean, and a few other indo beans need more effort to dial in...that to me is the fun/challenge...
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Yep, sour. I think I'm very sensitive to sourness

QUOTE(DEVILtonight @ Oct 9 2015, 02:54 AM)
Mandheling always taste like panadol to me. Herby and medicinal (depends on the roaster, and bean quality also la). It can be good if you extract it properly, but a little off, or getting a little old, I get that hint (or punch!) of panadol. I'm the sort who is pretty sensitive to herb flavours, so yea... If it's a really high acidity, maybe underextracted? Experiment & pull it a little longer.

If it gets better acidity-wise but along with it, an unpleasant bitterness too, it could be the grinder quality. Decent grinds get you a more balanced extraction, for the reason that it doesn't create too much fines like a lesser grinder does (fines = makes you overextract or underextract a shot)
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Thanks. I extracted it a bit longer, and not so sour anymore. Guess my grinder and technique both need upgrades!
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post Oct 9 2015, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(guitarleo @ Oct 9 2015, 12:06 PM)
Hi all, I have a Philips Saeco machine, do you all descale? and where do you get the descaler? 

How about portafilter? I am looking to replace my portafilter, where can I get?
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The general consensus is that Malaysian water is pretty soft, and if you use filtered water, there's not much need for
very frequent descaling; but some manufacturers make it a warranty condition that the descaling is done every 3 months or
so, so you may need to do that.

Many forums recommend to use citric acid to descale, and you can get the crystalline powder from bakery ingredient shops, among others,
though of course, some manufacturers will say you MUST use their proprietary descalers.

If you need to change your portafilter because you want a depressurised one, then Seattle Coffee Gear seems to be one of the few shops that sell a depressurised PF. The cheaper solution is to remove the pressurizing mechanism inside the portafilter - you can find many Youtube videos that show how to do this.

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post Oct 9 2015, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(guitarleo @ Oct 9 2015, 01:06 PM)
using hand grind now, any electric grinder recommended?
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I'm looking for a good electric as well...but it's a bit tough pulling out the stuck wallet! We're looking at 2k+

QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 9 2015, 03:19 PM)
Good articles and videos at home-barista.com if you've not seen them.
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Thanks, will pay them a visit. But my problem is probably my cheap Delonghi grinder....
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post Oct 9 2015, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(DEVILtonight @ Oct 9 2015, 11:07 PM)
Are you using just for espresso, or you wanna use for filter too? If the latter, consider baratza as it will cater to both grinds. My grinder is the Compak K3, and while it's excellent for espresso, for pourovers/filter size, it has too many uneven grinds for my liking. It's quite significant, the difference.
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Just for espresso.

But once in a while you hear good things about the WPM grinders, but no really solid reviews.
But their prices are quited tempting for tightwads like me!
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post Oct 10 2015, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 10 2015, 11:16 AM)
I don't like the K3. For this grinder class I prefer mazzer mini. Can be modded with 63mm SJ burrs.

General consensus is mini > K3.
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Putting aside the question of which is better, where in Malaysia can I get the Mazzer? And what is the ringgit price if someone were to carry it?

Thanks

QUOTE(patryn33 @ Oct 10 2015, 12:29 PM)
Matthew preger has a lot of good info very advance.
Love the idea of using the reflectometer but it cost way too much money.

Another is Heather Perry, she has some good entry level video.
http://dailycoffeenews.com/2014/05/21/five...-heather-perry/
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Ah, wasn't she a one-time US Barista champ?
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post Oct 11 2015, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Tikietic @ Oct 11 2015, 02:36 PM)
this is our current setup..
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Hi Tikietic,

Great to hear of your adventure up north!

But would it be reasonable to ask how the WPM grinder compares against the likes of mazzer mini, K3 and malkonig/baratza vario? Or am I trying to compare durians and kiwi fruit?

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