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Credit Cards What is Cross Border transaction fees ?, Charge by Visa / MasterCard

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Dyson Jin
post Apr 22 2019, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 22 2019, 05:56 PM)
What card you used?
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Cimb cc yea...
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post Jun 27 2019, 08:55 AM

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is HSBC charging cross border fees?
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post Jul 30 2019, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 22 2012, 11:20 PM)
Visa and MasterCard now charge a cross border transaction fee even when no currency conversion occurs. This relatively new fee - “cross border transaction fee” (MC) or “International Service Assessment (ISA) fee” (Visa) – was initiated by Visa and MC to ‘fight’ usage of the international credit card processing network when no currency conversion occurs.

Source: http://www.creditcardprocessing-r-us.com/C...ansaction-fees/

Reported Cases

1. Apple Store Malaysia (payment gateway in Singapore)
- CIMB
- SCB

2. LivingSocial Malaysia (payment gateway in Australia) [+0.8%]
- SCB
- HLB

3. Agoda Online Booking (payment gateway in UK) [+0.8%]
- CIMB
- SCB

4. Expedia
- CIMB

5. Dell
- CIMB

6. PayPal
- CIMB

7. AirBNB [+0.8%]
- CIMB

8. Uber [+0.8%]
- CIMB
- Citibank

9. Fave by Groupon
- CIMB

10. Shopee Malaysia
- CIMB, SCB

Banks which doesn't charge  thumbup.gif
- OCBC
- Maybank
- Ambank
- UOB
- Alliance Bank
- Citibank (@ Aliexpress)
- Hong Leong Bank
- AEON Credit
- Public Bank
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Hi, kindly update the qoo10.my and lazada.com.my and lelong.my and lmall.my and superbuy.my
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post Jul 30 2019, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Aug 24 2018, 05:22 PM)
No, my friend’s Shopee acc still use Cybersource.. earlier I also thought is global changed, I somemore tell my friend can use SCB card now coz won’t have cross border fee as Shopee changed to ipay88, but, later he told me his recent purchase with PBB card shown Shopee Singapore still..
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hi, is the shopee still maintain 2 payment gateway as at now ?
actually, we dont know which payment gateway shopee use on our orders because during checkout, i just key in my credit card and that it.
to play safe, i already stop using scb cc for most website except lazada.com.my
the rest, the best way and safe way is using maybank cc
mamamia
post Jul 30 2019, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(v2_vehooi @ Jul 30 2019, 01:51 PM)
hi, is the shopee still maintain 2 payment gateway as at now ?
actually, we dont know which payment gateway shopee use on our orders because during checkout, i just key in my credit card and that it.
to play safe, i already stop using scb cc for most website except lazada.com.my
the rest, the best way and safe way is using maybank cc
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I think now it has been using Shopee Malaysia.. so far none reported is Shopee Singapore anymore
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post Jul 30 2019, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Jul 30 2019, 03:34 PM)
I think now it has been using Shopee Malaysia.. so far none reported is Shopee Singapore anymore
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oh is it ? i will try to use scb cc / cimb this week
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post Jul 31 2019, 07:13 PM

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Humble Bundle, using CIMB cc, no cross border charges.

This post has been edited by Savor_Savvy: Aug 4 2019, 04:53 PM
Dyson Jin
post Dec 19 2019, 02:58 PM

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Used Cimb cc for shopee mobile app
no cross border fees liao.
hooray..

This post has been edited by Dyson Jin: Dec 19 2019, 02:58 PM
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post Dec 19 2019, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Dyson Jin @ Dec 19 2019, 02:58 PM)
Used Cimb cc for shopee mobile app
no cross border fees liao.
hooray..
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Already localised ("Kuala Lumpur MY") since January 2019.
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post Dec 30 2019, 12:45 AM

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FYR, i made transactions to Expedia and AirBnB using SCB WorldMiles, both were charged 1% cross border fees.
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post Dec 7 2022, 10:51 PM

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dear cimb don promote this if ure gonna penalize ur customers https://deals.cimb.com/my/E-Commerce/Expedi...97-3c267839c9ee
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post Dec 7 2022, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(audio technica @ Dec 7 2022, 10:51 PM)
dear cimb don promote this if ure gonna penalize ur customers https://deals.cimb.com/my/E-Commerce/Expedi...97-3c267839c9ee
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You still get discount, just at reduced rate right?
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post Dec 8 2022, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Dec 7 2022, 11:31 PM)
You still get discount, just at reduced rate right?
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basically 7% expedia discount is only worth 6%, suggest to use another card that doesnt charge these cross border transaction fees if possible.
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post Dec 8 2022, 04:45 PM

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how to know we are being charge, at the final stage of the payment it self? additional item added? cause sometime not ready see the figure
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post Dec 8 2022, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(joice11 @ Dec 8 2022, 04:45 PM)
how to know we are being charge, at the final stage of the payment it self? additional item added? cause sometime not ready see the figure
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no way to know upfront

xborder fee is post-processing by your issuing bank.


using this topic as a guide lor, can isolate/avoid issuing banks which impose xborder fee.
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post Aug 20 2023, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 22 2012, 11:20 PM)
Visa and MasterCard now charge a cross border transaction fee even when no currency conversion occurs. This relatively new fee - “cross border transaction fee” (MC) or “International Service Assessment (ISA) fee” (Visa) – was initiated by Visa and MC to ‘fight’ usage of the international credit card processing network when no currency conversion occurs.

Source: http://www.creditcardprocessing-r-us.com/C...ansaction-fees/

Reported Cases

1. Apple Store Malaysia (payment gateway in Singapore)
- CIMB
- SCB

2. LivingSocial Malaysia (payment gateway in Australia) [+0.8%]
- SCB
- HLB

3. Agoda Online Booking (payment gateway in UK) [+0.8%]
- CIMB
- SCB

4. Expedia
- CIMB

5. Dell
- CIMB

6. PayPal
- CIMB

7. AirBNB [+0.8%]
- CIMB

8. Uber [+0.8%]
- CIMB
- Citibank

9. Fave by Groupon
- CIMB

10. Shopee Malaysia
- CIMB, SCB

Banks which doesn't charge  thumbup.gif
- OCBC
- Maybank
- Ambank
- UOB
- Alliance Bank
- Citibank (@ Aliexpress)
- Hong Leong Bank
- AEON Credit
- Public Bank
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any update for this list? other than cross border fees, recently many banks also seem to charge extra 1% foreign exchange fees?
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post Aug 21 2023, 07:22 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Aug 20 2023, 11:46 PM)
any update for this list? other than cross border fees, recently many banks also seem to charge extra 1% foreign exchange fees?
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afaik there are 2 fees:

1) network forex fee, usually stated in the general card t&c for all foreign txn. usually bank will markup ~1% on top of converted value in MYR

2) eg recent announcement by HLB is more to DCC, which is another 1% fee

3) bigpay's changes is to impose DCC fee of 0.5%. this is why they said most cases will see total of 1.5% = 0.5% dcc + 1.0% forex fee

4) cimb twe doesnt charge forex fee (product feature, iinm), but it does charge DCC across the board.
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Aug 21 2023, 07:22 AM)
afaik there are 2 fees:

1) network forex fee, usually stated in the general card t&c for all foreign txn. usually bank will markup ~1% on top of converted value in MYR

2) eg recent announcement by HLB is more to DCC, which is another 1% fee

3) bigpay's changes is to impose DCC fee of 0.5%. this is why they said most cases will see total of 1.5% = 0.5% dcc + 1.0% forex fee

4) cimb twe doesnt charge forex fee (product feature, iinm), but it does charge DCC across the board.
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does cross border fee fall into these categories? or different fees on top of these?
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post Aug 21 2023, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Aug 21 2023, 07:53 AM)
does cross border fee fall into these categories? or different fees on top of these?
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xborder fee is the network forex fee
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post Aug 25 2023, 01:48 AM

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used cimb CC to buy welkin from genshin on mihoyo official website and got TAC request for 19.90 but cc statement show 20.XX
felt damn cheated even if its just 5 cent
kinda suck that you wont know if you'll get hit with this charge or not until its too late
wouldve gone with a different payment method had i known there is this charge

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